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Husband's permission needed to obtian an abortion and sometimes tubial ligation
@victoriasparda (161)
United States
August 8, 2008 12:13am CST
Did you know that in some states (Louisiana being one of them) a woman has to have her husband's permission to have an abortion? It doesn't matter if he's a decent guy, an abusive pig or mentally unstable, they still require his perrmission!
Also, many doctors will not preform a tubial ligation without a women's husband giving his consent! Yet the man can go and get a vasectomy without even telling his wife!
Many people say that gender discrimination no longer exists in America but I think the two above facts prove otherwise, what is everyone's opinion on these BS rules?
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
11 Aug 08
Obviously a holdover from the "wives are merely their husband's property" times, these laws clearly need to be repealed.
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@fluffnflowers (1594)
• United States
8 Aug 08
I hate this rule and think it's really repulsive.
I think a woman should be able to have her tubes tied without her husband's consent, just like a man should be able to get a vasectomy without his wife's consent. If a woman doesn't want to have a child, that's her choice, even if her husband doesn't like it. If a man doesn't want to have a child, that's his choice, even if his wife doesn't like it.
I wouldn't encourage having a 'permanent' form of birth control done without talking to the partner, but what's next? Instating some sort of mandate that women can't get hormonal birth control without their husband's consent?
(I don't think there are actually any laws about getting either of those procedures done without spousal permission, but it seems to be the policy in some areas. A girlfriend of mine wanted to have her tubes tied while her husband was overseas. He was all for it, but she wanted to get it done while he was gone (they say you're not 'safe' for several months after the ligation) so they could resume their normal activities when he returned. A bunch of doctors told her they'd need his permission first, but she found a doctor that would do it for her without that.)
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I used to work with a woman who had one child by her 1st husband. He was abusive and controlling but she thankfully was able to runaway from him (literally) with her daughter and rebuild her life. Later she met and married a very wonderful man. The tried without success to conceive. Obviously the fault wasn't hers since she had a child and was not experiencing any medical problems. Her husband then went through testing and was declared completely fertile. So the started checking her again...that's when she discovered that while she was unconcious from her C-section, her first husband told the doctor to do a tubal ligation and the doctor did it and no one ever told her! They attempted a reversal but it was unsuccessful and they could not afford other methods of conception so they never had a child together.
So my opinion is that this BS does still exist and I will not ever use a doctor, especially a male over the age of 45, that I can not completely trust.
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@victoriasparda (161)
• United States
9 Aug 08
THEY DID WHAT?!?! Oh my goodness, that is not only immoral but illegal! I really hope she filed malpractice against that doctor because if he did that to one women who knows how many others he's preformed tubials on without their consent
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Aug 08
omg i have heard of a hysterectomy being done like that.. that is crazy!!
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
8 Aug 08
I find it disgusting that any state would force a woman to get consent from her husband for any medical procedure - abortion included. It is not the man who is carrying the fetus, so legally he should have no say. Besides, such a law provides an abusive husband the tools needed to knock up his wife and force her to bring a child into an unstable atmosphere, and she can't do anything about it.
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@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
14 Aug 08
I don't agree with abortions and wouldn't have one myself. But if a lady wants to have one then I believe it is her choice. She should not have to seek permission from her husband. I think if that is so then a wife should have to give permission for her husband to have a vasectomy. I think that some countries are meant to have equality between women and men but this is far from true. In the states I notice that law and practices differ between state.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
9 Aug 08
omg how screwed up!! i wouldnt want to have to have anyones permission on either things!!
@missybal (4490)
• United States
1 Nov 08
If the husband is an abusive pig or mentally unstable I'd say the wife should get an emergency divorce. I did know about that law because I knew this woman who wanted an abortion and her husband wouldn't sign. She was the worse sort of person. She talked like it was nothing about getting 4 abortions total in her life before her son. She wanted to get an abortion because she didn't want any kids. Her husband wanted a child so bad. She had to have the baby then she divorced him and ran off with the kid and used that kid against him left and right. He paid his child support and called all the time (I know because this was my husband's father's girlfriend and we were living in the same house for a while). He was always so nice when he called. She was terrible to her son saying how she didn't want him all the time but she wouldn't let the father have him. This kid was starving for affection. His mother hated to be touched, was against hugging her own child. That kid was not a bad kid and he deserved better than her but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have been born. My husband's father left the woman and last I heard the dad got back his son. I'm glad for that. Every child should be loved. I think both should be included in decisions like this. I also think that a husband should have to have his wife sign off on a vesectomy too. It is only right that it goes both ways.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Aug 08
I think unless the doctor says if she does not have it she shall die, the husband should be consented. Oh and if the husband wants a vasectomy, the wife should be consented. I mean in the first case, if he wants more children and she does not and gets a tubal ligation, she might pretend to be pregnant and then pretend a miscarriage. The same if he gets a vasectomy, and does not tell her, and then she is planning for the little one, and he keeps telling her it is her fault and she keeps getting tests, etc.
So no matter what, the wife should get the husband's permission and the husband should get the wife's permission. And if the guy is an abusive pig, she should try for a legal separation.
@soooobored (1184)
• United States
10 Aug 08
I think that men should have more say in it than they do now, but obviously there can't be a blanket law that states the father's permission is needed. Fathers have rights, and there are women who abort without consulting the father, and I think that's irresponsible. If the father is willing and able to raise the child, he should have the opportunity.
@deviliciousamy (20)
• United States
11 Aug 08
as far as the getting fixed thing i think either both need to have permission or neither should have to have permission.not one sided.and for abortion i think thats great that both partys have to sign for it, it cuts down the unborn baby murders.