"What Criteria Do You Use To Rate a Discussion Negatively (-)"
By highlyclever
@highlyclever (1111)
United States
August 15, 2008 1:14pm CST
If I am not mistaken, the star rating next to your user name is some reflection of the kinds of ratings that you contributions receive (+, -, !) ... and recently my star rating fell a point - which probably means that someone rated something that I contributed negatively (with a minus).
I always aim for positive ratings. This is my goal when I add my contributions to myLot - to write in such a way that other users will rate what I have to say as a positive contribution. And I give out positive ratings frequently as well.
So, here is my question:
Assuming that most contributions will get a positive rating, what sort of criteria do you use when you decide to rate a discussion or a response negatively?
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@shamzy18 (2316)
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15 Aug 08
i accidently gave some one a minus lol it was a accident though!! that person had the best response so gave it a best response in return lol 1st time i ever did that and hope it is the last lol. i dont usually give negative ratings because i dont think they are negative most of them.
@medicguy (307)
• Pakistan
16 Aug 08
Finally a discussion worth addressing everyone's attention to. You have raised a very valid point friend. Mostly the practice is that when someone disagrees with other opinion, they would be tempted to rate negatively.
I, on the other hand, rate it base on the value and contribution that the discussion is tending to make for the public and others alike. If a certain discussion is not promoting hate, is constructive in nature, is bound to enhance awareness of a crucial issue, is clever, is thoughtfully sought out and is non-biased to some extent, such a discussion would definitely earn a highly positive remark from my side. I also like to see users to vote or select their best response for their discussion eventually because that shows the author of the topic is actually concerned regarding the discussion he/she actually just started.
Most of the time, I tend to stay neutral if the above criteria that I have mentioned are not met.
If a discussion is absolutely irrelevant and ignites hatred and obscenity in general, then that deserves a BIG negative from my point of view.
Once again, keep up with such clever posts and thank you.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Aug 08
Right. Just because I disagree with somebody's point of view does not mean their response is not quality. In many cases, the poster has put together a well thought out post backing up why they feel the way they do, or examples from their lives or experience. This IS quality sharing of information and exactly the purpose behind mylot. This isn't to say that any of us are going to change minds, but that isn't the point either. It is highly immature and childish to just have that snap decision to say 'i'll get you' and rate negatively because you disagree, but it speaks volumes of your own character. If you do this, you are not a reasonable, responsible, mature person and this will be obvious in other ways as well. It will cost you friendships and probably happiness and fulfillment down the line.
I know that somebody rated me negatively at least once or twice because my rating went down once since I've been here, I have no idea who it was or why, but it doesn't really matter, you can only control what you do, not how others perceive it or how they respond.
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I think that the temptation for most people is to use the negative button as a way to try to penalize someone that they disagree with; "If I disagree with what you post, I will give you a negative rating! That'll show you..." But it really doesn't work that way, especially if the post is actually "of value" according to myLot's standards. The negative rating only comes back to hurt the rater - especially if the post is indeed a "quality" (although disagreeable) post.
I tend more toward the positive side. If I agree with someone and think that they have put some effort into making a contribution, I give them a positive rating. If I disagree, or if I think that they haven't put any effort into constructing their post, then I do not rate them at all.
I steer completely clear of discussions that ignite hatred, obscenity, etc., simply because those discussions are highly likely to be deleted - and what good does it do me to contribute to a thread that will be here today and gone tomorrow?
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your thoughts. Best wishes!
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I usually give a positive rating to most discussion and responses. I have given a couple of negative ratings to someone that posted a down right mean response. I only report someone that has copied and pasted a discussion or response that a blatant copy word for word. I might report a double discussion if no one had responded to it. The ones that the person starting the discussion hit the button to many time and ends up with 2 discussions being posted. I mostly give positive ratings or none
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I don't pay any attention to the star. I do give a positive to every discussion that I respond to so I don't have to look threw all the responses to see if I already responded to it. as for the coping and pasting It comes in handy if your write a long discussion or response on word or another program so it doesn't get deleted because of malfunction. it is also good for giving web site as references.
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I usually give positive ratings to most discussions and responses as well. (If I don't give a positive, I simply leave the discussion unrated.)
MyLot asks us to rate contributions negatively that are "not useful". A copy and pasted discussion (or comments - I see those quite frequently from certain users...) are definitely not useful. (It does make you wonder, though, about the purpose of the copy and paste function. When I am finally allowed to use it, I will probably type more posts out in a word processing program and then "copy and paste"; it is probably not allowed until you reach a certain level because of the number of people who would simply copy and paste repetitiously...)
Thanks for your thoughts!
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@roque20 (518)
• Philippines
16 Aug 08
I really dont put negative rate in every discussion i respond to,and i wont.because i know each one of use want to earn money here and want to share things to other.i really do appreciate all of discussions here because its really interesting to read and respond to discussions here.
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
You have an interesting point. We are all here to earn money. You do not rate others negatively, and you hope that they will not rate you negatively. It is the same for me. And the variety of responses that people give do make the discussions interesting. We can learn something new even from the most mundane responses.
Thanks for your reply!
@Galena (9110)
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16 Aug 08
if someone is rude or abusive.
or if the answer is irelevant to the conversation.
when people post something that has no input to the discussion just to bulk up their posting. like someone who answered "what do you think of this book" with "I've never heard of it"
or really bad one word or one line questions, usually in bulk which you have to trawl through.
positive ratings are for a good, well thought out or informative post.
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
MyLot asks us to rate negatively the contributions that are not "useful". They have said that the one or two word replies are not useful, because they do not add anything to a discussion. Who will spend any time reading a one or two word reply?
Rudeness, abuse, and irrelevance are definitely not useful. But these should probably also be "exclamation marked" to notify myLot that someone is misusing the system and violating the rules, too.
Thanks for your thoughts!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
16 Aug 08
I have been here long enough to see the fluctuations of my star rating from 10 down to 8 then goes up to 9. that nine has been there for a year and am doubtful whether I will ever go up to 10 again. I have never myself given negative ratings to anybody as it may affect that persons star rating. I am thankful that my discussion is being responded so why should I rate negative even if he/she disagree with my post. This is afterall asking for opinions. A disagreement does not mean he is wrong. I respect everyone views.
@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
Hi, zandi458 ~
It is a little discouraging to watch a star rating fluctuate.
I myself have never given a negative, for a variety of reasons. So many folks on myLot come from other countries and are simply beginning to learn English - and so their posts tend to be shorter - and sometimes they miss the point of the questions being asked. Other people are lazy and do not put up posts that are "useful" - they simply copy and paste what they said to the last guy! Still, rather than give them a negative, I simply ignore them and move on to find something else of interest.
Certainly, if you put up a post asking for peoples' opinions, you should expect to get a wide variety of ideas - from people who agree with you to people who disagree. That's all part of the conversation here at myLot.
Thank you for your reply!
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
16 Aug 08
so far, i never give anybody a negative rating before... for me to do that, the discussions had to be considered to be abusive, attacking or cheating (copy and paste from other people's discussions)... otherwise, i won't give a negative rating to anybody as i don't want to be rating by anybody as well... take care and have a nice day...
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I have never given anyone a negative rating, either. MyLot is really ambiguous about when we should give a negative rating, though, because the only criteria what they indicate is "not useful". What makes a discussion "not useful"? If I disagree with someone, I may think that their comments are not useful; but myLot explicitly says that disagreement should not be a cause for a negative comment. A disagreeable comment may still be useful.
Abusive, attacking, and cheating are definitely not useful, so a negative would certainly be in line. Although, it seems that those posts would better be reported with the exclamation mark as a violation of the rules; do you agree?
I don't give negatives, largely too because I don't want people giving me negatives, either! Thanks for your thoughts, and you have a good day, too.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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16 Aug 08
For me it is very rare that i will give a negative rating out at all. What i will do is report people to mylot for infringements very quickly and easilly indeed. Really, i negative rate people who are rude or aggressive in response. Its not often i have to do this, largely only with people who dont come here very often and dont stay long. In truth i think we should remove the negative button or at least make those who give negative ratings lose their annonymitty so we can all see who is doing it (I wonder how many people would be brave enough to go on a negative rating binge if they were named afterwards?) Instead, I think everything should be reported to mylot, let them decide
blessed be
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
You make a very interesting point about taking away the anonymous feature of the negative rating. I have had simlar thoughts, but it would require a complete overhaul of the myLot system - maybe something more along the lines of what eBay had to offer before it's feedback overhaul - and it would probably end up encouraging more "retaliatory" negatives than what is currently given.
I don't know. I do think that it would make a person think twice before simply leaving a negative. But I think that the "feedback comments" would be constructive, too: Did you think my post was too short? Did you simply not like what I had to say? (Which is not a valid reason to leave a negative according to myLot...) Did I not answer the question with satisfaction?
I have never given a negative up to the present. I have not reported people for infringements, either; I have simply walked away and not posted to such discussions. You probably have a lot of "rule breakers" who are newbies and who leave quickly, too, when their site expectations are not being met, etc.
Thank you for your thoughts!
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@shana123 (2095)
• India
16 Aug 08
Each persons have their own opinions and mylot is the place where peple from different places can pass on their views the original views.. so even if someone is controversial to my opinion i just appreciate them that they are coming up with originality and i just dont mind in giving them positive , if its over done also i just leave then unmarked other than marking negative thats how i have been doing all these days in mylot.. Its true that in some discussions we dont just adjust people's opinions or questions if so i just skip up those people just like that and i wont respond to the discussion i dont want anybody t put down so to me there is none marked as negative so far..
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@sunshinecup (7871)
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15 Aug 08
Basically anything I report, I rate with a "-". If their post or discussion goes against the rules that's when I will rate them with a negative right before I hit that report button. This also helps me keep up with whether or not I have reported them.
But I can hate the darn view of the author, hate the replies I get, but I won't rate them negatively. Heck I have even given best response to people that didn't agree with, LOL.
As for your ratings...
Just hang in there and don't let it bother you. If you are good poster and friendly as well as fair with the other members, it will go back up. Heck I've been knocked down to a 7 a couple of times for arguing with trolls. Just keep writing good discussions and you will see, it will be back in no time at all.
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
Thanks for the encouragement, sunshinecup! I really started this thread more out of confusion at watching my rating go down... and taking a little bit of my pride with it! But really, it's like "Whose Line Is It Anyway" where "the points don't matter" - or, at least we have no idea how exactly the points may matter...
I agree with you on everything, and yet I still am not sure that I would come around to offer negative ratings. (Maybe that is part of the reason that my rating has gone down?)
Oh, well, I did want to let you know that I really appreciate your words of encouragement. You've been around here for a while at 5000+ points! So thanks again for your thoughts and your encouraging words.
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@bdsurf (703)
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15 Aug 08
i think it is necessary for us to give positive & negative rating both depending the quality. It helps mylot a lot. Though I give maximum rating as positive but for some reasons I give negative rating. Sometimes, I saw some discussion started where people ask unnecessary issus which is already in mylot guidelines. I give negative rating there. Some discussion break mylot guideline, such as posting referral link, attacking others. With give negative rating I also try to rise consciousness into them.
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@misty99 (736)
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16 Aug 08
I never give negative rate.As per mylot rules--thanks for refreshing me---any response which i think has nothing to do with the topic i leave it unrated.I feel sad hitting it as i feel sad when somebody gives me negative rating."Do unto others as you would have others do unto you"-sort of thinking.Maybe i'll give negative if the responder is abusive---instead of the exclamation.
@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
16 Aug 08
We are similar. It is always good to find a discussion that reviews myLot's rules (I think that these discussions help lots of people to evaluate what they are doing and to be able to do better...)
We are similar because I agree that it is better to just leave something unrated, and I would hope that if someone does not find my contributions to be up to their standard that they would leave my contributions unrated as well.
The difference, though, between a negative and an exclamation is that the exclamation reports the person's abuse to myLot. This may actually be a more appropriate action than rating them negatively (although they may certainly be deserving of a negative rating.)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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@pkraj111 (2458)
• India
15 Aug 08
I rated a discussion negatively only once, that too when the discussion is hurting my beliefs. If a discussions is not according to my intrests I donot rate it, after all it is their point of view and everyone has a right to post their views. I myself would like to contribute positively
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@highlyclever (1111)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Thanks for your reply!
I mentioned to the poster above that I went looking to see what myLot had to say about when to use a negative. It sounds like the negative is not so much a reaction for what the person has actually said - at least as far as the content itself is concerned; it is more a measure of the quality of the content.
Like you, when I find that I disagree with what someone else says, I simply leave it alone. I don't even touch it! I don't give them a rating or a response or anything. It is more constructive for me to move on.
Thanks again! Cheers!
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@abhishek71832 (470)
• India
15 Aug 08
Firstly, I use minus sign very very rarely. I don't do that. If I find someone using bad and prohibited language as a response or write anything completely out of the yopic of the discussion, I give them minus " - ". But I don't come across this situations frequently. Even I think rating someone with a minus sign decreses their reputation along with their enthusiasm to post more and more in Mylot. I think its a big step to take to rate someone with a minus sign.
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