i am shocked and appalled!!!!!!
By Munchkin547
@Munchkin547 (2778)
August 24, 2008 9:06am CST
I have a 'friend with benefits', we have been spending 'time' together for a few months now, it's never gone any further than just being casual because neither of us has wanted it to. He has told me all along that he was single and i accepted that as truth because i had no reason to think otherwise. We are friends on facebook, today i was flicking through his profile and there was a new post on his wall asking if he was excited about being a daddy now there's only seven weeks left!!!! This is obviously news to me!!! I am completely shocked and not really sure how to react to it, i suppose just because there is a baby on the way doesn't mean he is in a relationship, and if things have always been casual it's not necessarily any of my business, but i'm now starting to think that he wasn't single all along!! I feel pretty guilty about this as i would never have got involved if i had known! What do you guys think about this situation?! xxx
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48 responses
@donna22 (1116)
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24 Aug 08
The mother of the baby may be another "friend" Do you really wanna be involved with a guy who sleeps around and does not take the proper care? There is of course the fcat that he has a baby. Would you be able to handle that? I know it is not a proper relationship but even so a baby may chnage things a lot. Yes you had no reaon to not beleive him but he would have known that and if he wanted to sleep with you he would not have told you he had a gf obviously. Yiu have no reason to feel guilty becaue you did not know but my honest advice would be to learn and move on.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
You're right she could be another "friend" i honestly don't know where he finds the time though!!! I think he probably deserves the chance to try to explain himself, he may not have a girlfriend anymore, but i don't think this is a 'friendship' that i'll be continuing!!! thanks for the response! xxx
@ellie333 (21016)
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24 Aug 08
Hi Munchkin, A lot of men do stray when then partners are heavily pregnant and I would be as shocked and as appalled as you are, even if he wasn't in a relationship with her any more the fact that he has never mentioned he is going to be a dad is suspicious as you said you were friends, with benefits, so the friends bit would have allowed him to share srely. I would confront him about it to find out the truth and if he is in a relationship well you had better look for another friend I guess as this is so wrong on you and her. Ellie :D
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@ellie333 (21016)
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24 Aug 08
It is guys like P1kef1sh who is happily married and a good guy though that give me hope that not all men are the same. I have been privileged to have met him and Mrs P1kef1sh and they are such a lovely couple so don't lose hope, you are much to pretty to be hidden away from the world in a convent and believe me I am celibate and it is no fun at all. Ellie :D
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
P1kef1sh seems like a genuinely lovely guy, i am sure his wife is just as lovely as you say so hopefully there is hope out there for the rest of us! Thanks Ellie, i'm just fed up of it all to be honest, things like this seem to follow me around like a bad smell, i get involved with someone and then something like this happens, it makes me feel cheap and like i'm only good for one thing! I just wish i could find someone who didn't just think they can treat me like their wh0re when it suits them, or that doesn't run a mile when i turn out to be not as easy as they might have hoped! Think i must have 'treat me like ****' tattoed on my forehead!! SOrry but of a rant there, just really fed up of it all and hurt that once again a man has felt the need to tell me lies! xxx
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
You're right there Ellie! Like you say if he is no longer in a relationship with her i don't see why he wouldn't/couldn't have told me there was a baby on the way, i can remember several conversations we've had where it would have been easy for him to drop it in! I am going to be asking him about it as soon as he gets back off holiday but i'm pretty sure things won't be going back to normal!!! Like i said to p1kef1sh i think i might just go join a convent or stay celibate, even when you make a conscious decision not to get involved with a guy, they manage to lie and deceive you!! thanks for the response! xxx
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
24 Aug 08
I think you need to be absolutely sure of the facts before you decide to act. If you are likely to be troubled by this, then i would suggest confronting him only to get the truth and then cut it off. This is of course my point of view and how i would got about handling a situation like this.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
I think that's probably what i'll do, he deserves the chance to explain things in his own way but i don't want to be involved in that way with anybody that i feel i can't trust! thanks for the response! xxx
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I notice that you use the term, "friends with benefits," munchkin, but the basis of friendship means that you don't keep secrets from one another. Add to that the "benefits," and I would call it anything but casual. This person has lied to you. True, it is a lie of omission, but, nevertheless, still a lie. He should have been up front with you about the impending birth of a child -regardless of whether or not he is in a relationship.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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25 Aug 08
Hi worldwise, thanks for the response! i agree with you, lying by omission is just as bad, especially when it's hiding something this big! take care xxx
@gemini_rose (16264)
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24 Aug 08
Well, not at all surprised to hear it for a start! OK, pretty much the majority of people on there are married or in relationships but not many of them will tell you that! They just go on it for a bit of fun, and yes I am speaking from experience. You would also not be surprised at how many people do not actually CARE if someone is taken or not if they fancy them they go for it. Example of this being my hubby has a facebook account and he talks to girls on there, and he will tell them he is married with kids, and these girls still come after him and they blatantly tell him they do not care he is married and want him to come around!! You should not feel guilty, he has mislead you, but then again you may be getting hold of the wrong end of the stick so if it was me I would come out and ask him straight out. I mean he must know that you can see everything on his page so you should ask him whats going on.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
I didn't meet him on facebook, we met through a friend on a night out! I would never go after anyone that was married or involved with another woman! Like you say i don't know the full story yet so i will be asking for a bit of an explanation i think!! He must realise i can see it all but on the other hand he hasn't got control of what people write on his wall and is on holiday this week so can't delete it!!! xxx
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@soyporteno (406)
• United States
25 Aug 08
Well I think I would avoid this relationship with him in the future. He does not sound trustworthy. Good luck. He could have at least told you that he was messing around unprotected with others.
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
Hi thanks for the response, he doesn't seem as though he is trustworthy after all so i don't think our relationship will be able to continue! xxx
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@mynameismine (771)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Well maybe this is blunt but it sounds to me like you were a piece of *** and he used you for what you were willing to give you as long as he told you what you wanted to hear. It is the price you pay sometimes when you play. You don't love him, he doesn't love you, did you really expect him to tell you the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Not passing judgment, it happens sometimes with the type of like that you are living. Live and learn.
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@mynameismine (771)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Maybe so, but it is the reality of these type of relationships. If you are going to have a relationship like this you have to be ready for all possibilities, including this.
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@Citizen_Stuart (2016)
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24 Aug 08
You're being a bit harsh there, mynameismine. I don't see that Munchkin has done anything wrong. Just because you're not in love with someone you're involved with, doesn't give them permission to be dishonest with you. Friends deserve loyalty - which includes not keeping secrets like this.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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25 Aug 08
I appreciate your point of view mynameismine but with all respect you don't actually know all of the facts about the relationship and what has gone on, only the bits i have chosen to mention in this discussion, and just because he is a guy and it might be socially more acceptable for him to sleep around doesn't make it alright for him to be fooling around with me while he (potentially) has a girlfriend with a baby on the way, it's certainly not only me that i am upset for! Contrary to the opinion that you seem to have of me i don't sleep around and would never intentionally do this to another woman. And as for the type of life i'm living, just because i might have a friend like this, it does not mean that i live any 'type of life', i am a good person, i don't hurt others and i certainly do not sleep around. thank you for your response xxx
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
30 Aug 08
First, Don't you feel guilty.If he is married, you didn't know. It is not like you went after a married man on purpose.What do I think? Well, I think he didn't tell you because it is his business. And since you are not in a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, why should he tell you? Just because he is having a baby with another women doesn't mean he is in love with her or they are having a relationship. it does mean that he will have to help raise the kid so he may have less free time. I guess the best thing to do is to talk to him about it. Or if you feel like he is married and you feel bad about yourself , then break it off.Take Care.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Sep 08
Good Luck. Let me know how it goes.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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31 Aug 08
Hi! thanks for the response! He's not married, that's the one thing i do know for sure and it would seem that he is single! Am more upset form the point of view of a friend than anything else, i think it's a huge thing to keep from someone who you spend a lot of time with!! I have thought about it from that angle though and wondered if i really have the right to be angry, particularly after i had calmed down a bit!! I'll talk it through with him and then we can decide what happens next! Happy mylotting! xxx
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
29 Aug 08
In my opinion, I feel that we should jump to any conclusions. At any stage of a relationship it is always a good advocate to be quick to listen and slow to react. I suppose that is one of the catalysts that improves communication in a relationship. After reading much, I wonder why you had not tried to find out a little more from your friend(s) who had introduced the both of you. I am sure that there will be some truths from them lest you do not find them to be reliable.
I think sometimes frivolous postings on the blog sites are nothing serious and may not be considered reliable. No offense, but I am not a firm believer on what are being posted on such sites. Anyway, I just hope that you will be patient to hear it from the horse's mouth for yourself and for the sake of the relationship's future.
Sometimes, being a father could have a lot of meanings, could be that he is being asked to be the new born's godfather. And oh, by the way I am going to be the father of 6 little wonderful beagles. So please be patient.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
31 Aug 08
I think as the saying goes: Nothing ventured; Nothing gained, so I hope that you will approach the matter as much as you can. I assume you had not heard from your friend(s) yet so don't let your assumptions get the better of you. Just be open minded and as objective as possible.
Never, jump to conclusions.
Take care.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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30 Aug 08
Hehe, i like the way you think! I have spoken to or friends and they know nothing about it, so either they're not telling me (which i think is unlikely from the way they reacted!) or they don't know anything either! I am going to ask him about it before i make any decisions but from the wording of the message i can't see that it would have any other meanings! Thanks for the response, i do hope you're right! happy mylotting! xxx
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@cinderella2007 (2662)
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26 Aug 08
I would question him about it. Tell him that while browsing on his facebook profile you came across the comment and was wondering why he hadnt mentioned about becoming a father. Who knows he could be split up with the mother and may have broken up on bad terms which is why he felt not to mention it or maybe he didn't want to be judged about becoming a father and not being with the mother.
The only way you are going to fully understand and get answers is by asking him. He probably didnt mean to keep it from you but didnt want you to be thinking about him becoming a father if you two are becoming close!! Ask him and then you will be able to put your mind at rest!!
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@cinderella2007 (2662)
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26 Aug 08
It is the way forward. I wouldnt be angry with him until you hear his explanation. I suppose maybe betrayed would be a way to express yourself. I wouldnt push him away, maybe he needs a friend to talk to about this. You should judge him until you hear his reasons for not expressing them to you!!
You will have to let us know what the outcome is and how things go for you and this bloke!!! (Fingers crossed!!!)xx
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
You're right this really is the only way forward for me and everybody seems to think the same, it's hard though because as much as i am angry with him for keeping it from me i don't want to push him away if it is reasonably innocent, and i guess i'm a bit worried about maybe not getting the response that i want!! thanks for the response xx
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
I agree with you, now i have got over the initial shock i don't really feel angry i'm just confused as to why he would keep something so big a secret, not just from me but from some of his friends as well!! The only way i'll find out is by asking him about it, he hasn't necessarily done anything wrong other than not tell me something that he maybe didn't want to talk about! Thanks for the sensible advice, it's nice to hear from someone who isn't quick to judge! I'll try and let you know what happens, hopefully i won't be feeling as rubbish about it all once i have had the chance to talk to him about it! xxx
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I wouldn't call this guy much of a friend since he left out that one HUGE detail about himself, that he's going to be a father!
He may be single, but if someone was asking him if he was "excited about being a daddy" in only seven weeks, I'd say there is a pretty good chance that he is involved in a relationship with the mother-to-be, or "single but involved".
He's obviously told others about it, but not you. That says one of two things to me. Either he's been hiding this fact from you in order to deceive you, or he doesn't care at all about being a "daddy" which makes him an irresponsible and nasty human being! I tend to side with the former statement.
He may just see his relationship with you as "something on the side". I don't know what you mean by "a friend with benefits", but if you have been with him physically, I could pretty much say for sure that that's all you are to him since he never told you about his impending fatherhood, but told others. It says he doesn't care enough about you to share this rather important news with you.
I would definitely suggest getting out of that relationship A.S.A.P. It's not fair to you or to the mother-to-be.
And don't feel guilty! You didn't know. It's not your fault. HE is at fault.
P.S. My first husband did that to me when I was pregnant and even the night I gave birth! He was having physical relationships with other women after telling them that he was single! Once I had proof, he was so outta there!!!
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Aug 08
I understand where you're coming from. I've had my share of married guys telling me they were single, or the old "My wife doesn't understand me" line. They're disgusting pigs!
No woman deserves that. If she is so non-understanding or mean or nasty, he should just leave her; not cheat on her! If a man wants other women, he should have never gotten married. If he gets someone pregnant, he should at least own up to it!
Yeah, I was totally devastated. Brand new baby, my life with him just starting, I though it would last forever. I did my best to be a good wife. I got so depressed that I was sick for 3 months (ending up with double-pneumonia and pleurosy) and lost weight until I only weighed 80 pounds! My mother was worried that I was going to kill myself.
It took six months and a LOT of therapy to pull myself out of that depression! I tried to keep going because of my baby, but it took time and therapy to get me moving forward again. This type of man doesn't see or care about the pain he is causing.
Luckily, that is all behind me and I have a great hubby now.
If your "friend with benefits" has never invited you to his home, hasn't given you a land-line number to call his home or even given you his address, that's a HUGE red flag that he's hiding something major! Have you been able to call him in the evenings or weekends? If this is not the case, it could quite possibly be a nasty prank pulled on him by someone who is extremely immature.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
I'm so sorry you went through that, you're right some men are awful and what they get up to is unspeakable but the fact that you've found your lovely hubby gives me hope that there are good ones out there! That's the wierd thing, i know where he lives, can contact him at all times on his mobile and landline numbers, which makes me think that he is single but does have a baby on the way with someone else who he is no longer in a relationship with. There's obviously something very odd going on and i want to get to the bottom of it before i make any rash decisions! The rubbish thing is that i want more from myself than some guy who i can call for a booty call or a hug when i'm feeling down, i want someone who i can call mine (not him, obviously!) but everytime i think i've got that something goes wrong and i'm the one left crying, so i thought going down this road would stop me getting hurt, and even though i didn't get too emotionally involved etc, i am still left upset!!! rubbish rubbish rubbish!! oh well life does go on, i just hope i haven't inadvertantly caused anyone an hurt or upset and that there is a good explanation, think i may be hoping for a bit much though!! thanks for the responses and i am glad you got through that awful time and have obviously come out of the other side a strong, happy person who i am sure is a wonderful wife and mother! xxx
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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25 Aug 08
Hi! I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that it must have been truly awful for you! I'd never want to make another woman suffer in that way which is why i would never have got invovled in the first place if i'd have known the situation! It seems that i'm not the only one that he has kept this from, some of his guys friends were completely in the dark about it too, it all seems very odd, i just want to get to the bottom of it, and more than likely get out of the situation and him out of my life! Thank you for taking the time to respond xxx
@NYANJURU (57)
• Kenya
25 Aug 08
first of all FWB is lame and quite a disservice to yourself. Especially as a woman, we are naturally inclined to be emotional even if we say it is casual. Why don't you get a person who for you only and you for him. am not surprised that he has such skeletons in his closet. With such characters, this is bound to happen. Do yourself a fav and run fast before you get hurt.
@NYANJURU (57)
• Kenya
26 Aug 08
Hi dear. I was just worried about you, woman to woman. But if you are comfortable with the concept of FWB, I have no beef with you. I surely hope that in the future, you will get someone who you will not share with anyone and vise versa. I have a fiance' and it is a pleasurable feeling to know that he is mine and mine alone, no strings attached.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
i didn't take offence don't worry! everyone has a right to an opinion, and if yours happens to be different to mine so be it, that's what makes life interesting! in all honesty i want what you have but it never works for me and i end up hurt, so the affection without the emotional stress works for me, hopefully one day it will be different! thank for taking time out to reply! xxx
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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25 Aug 08
I accept your opinion but it was something that had always worked quite well until this happened, i don't see it as a disservice to myself as it was something we mutually agreed on, and as far as i was aware he wasn't sleeping with anyone else! thanks for the responsexxx
@msedge (4011)
• United States
2 Sep 08
Men sometimes lied to get the affection of the woman.You may ask him about it and then decide for yourself.There are men that just playing games.They thought getting involve with women is just a game.After they get what they want then they would leave.If he is having an affir with other woman then maybe you don't deserve to have a man like him that lied just to get you.You deserve a better man.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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2 Sep 08
I would be inclined to agree with you on that one! thanks for the response! xxx
@mands61123 (2098)
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24 Aug 08
ohh noo i can understand your reaction hun i think the best thing is to just ask him explain that if he wasn't single thats something you aren't comfortable and would have never got involved you asumed he was and that things get complicated when babies arrive. The friends with benefits things always get complicated when outside factors affect it as there often are not clear boundaries. Talk to him communications the key.
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
I guess you're right, i'll give him the chance to explain himself, but as we have always been friends and had some pretty deep and meaningful conversations i kind of think that if he had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong then he would have told me! guess there's only one way to find out though, i'll speak to him when he gets back and see what he says! thanks chick, good to know there's people on here i can talk to, this is just the final straw with me and men, it's not that i was hoping for a relationship with him, i really wasn't but i;m really upset, had a bit of a cry earlier, am just sick of men treating my like their wh***e!! sorry, rant over!! xxx
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
That's my plan! the annoying thing is that we've had the serious conversations about what we both want and seeing other people etc, he always started it and said he was uninvolved! i just don't understand how anyone can tell such blatent lies, well ican it's not the first time but stupidly i always expect better! i'll talk to him about it but i don't think the outcome is gonna be great! thanks for the response chick xxx
@mands61123 (2098)
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24 Aug 08
it might have been a one night stand hun you won't know until you speak to him if it was he might be telling the truth. As awful as it sounds she might be trying to make it much more than it is and he might not be interested at all. I know of a similar situation with a friend and she posts on his wall all the time like come and see your son why have you not text your sun back when the texts are from her about stuff between them nothing to do with the kid. Hope you get your aswers hun let me know how it all goes.
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@Ohara_1983 (4117)
• Kuwait
26 Aug 08
i think you need to talk to him, dont just be quit on it, or maybe in another relationship, who knows, nowdays everyone get involve same proble.
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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26 Aug 08
Thanks for the response! I am going to talk to him and give him chance to explain, as it could be that he is actually single inspite of all this, i don't think it's likely but i'll at least let him try to explain it!! xxx
@rockydam83 (846)
• Italy
29 Aug 08
In my views friendship is only based upon truth. This world is soo strange maybe there is somthing missunderstaning just aske him straight forward. He will explain it to you and should have to do so.
Shakspear says "It is not necessary to share everythingbetween true friends but it is necessary that what you share must be true"
That is all my style
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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30 Aug 08
I like that saying! you're right, there might be a good explanation for it but i can't imagine what it could be! thanks for the response! happy mylotting! xxx
@GlitterExplosion (415)
• United States
24 Aug 08
Honestly, it does not sound like your friend is telling the truth. Any normal person would probably want to know if their friend was becoming a father, especially when you are in a friend-with-benefits relationship. Trust and communication are still a key factor, because you are going to want to know if your friend is having with other people, or if they want something, etc. You need to talk to him about this. You might just be FWBs, but I think you do have the right to know about this, or the fact he's sleeping with other people.
Why would he keep this from you, but yet not care that a girl is posting about this on his Facebook?
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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24 Aug 08
I agree with you that he really should have mentioned something, especially if he is still seeing the girl! it's her that i feel bad for really, i would never have gone near him if i'd have known the truth, i wouldn't do that to another person. I suppose he just didn't expect anyone to write anything about it on facebook, or he just didn't think - it seems he doesn't do a whole lot of thinking!! I am going to ask him about it, i feel i deserve some answers!! thanks for the response! xxx
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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25 Aug 08
I don't think people realise or think about the fact that everyone can see your business on social sites, it doesn't really bother me as i have nothing to hide but obviously he should have thought about it!! I expected a bit more from him, even though we might not be in a proper relationship like you say we have always been friends, and quite close in the past so i am hurt that he felt he couldn't share this with me! I agree that i have the right to know if he is sleeping with other people and that's exactly what i'll be saying to him!!
Thanks for the wise words!! xxx
@candymarie (1368)
• Canada
27 Aug 08
hrm, my instinct would be to ask questions, but then again, if he has been lieing this whole time so far, what's to say he won't lie to you yet again.
It's scary how easily some people can lie....and how easily I can snoop lol.
This one guy, also a benefits thing, decides to ask me out for the weekend, I agree to it, and I'm pretty straight forward, and ask, hey, are you seeing other people? Like dating, or also benefits friend, he said no...yet what do I find on his cell phone? he txt'd another girl, saying he misses her, and for her to call him when her "red river" (EW) is gone.
I ask him again the next day, and also decide to mention I also have other "people" I'm seeing and that if he is, I don't mind, it's just I'd prefer to know, right?
What does he say? he denies it again! Well honestly, I just stopped contacting him altogether!
Also, whatever it is that you're doing with this guy, and what he's doing in his spare time, please use protection!
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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28 Aug 08
I'm always very careful! it's shocking when people can lie so easily, especially when they don't really need to and telling the truth would be easier! I'm sorry that guy did it to you, it happens to me all the time too, i attract scumbags and it sucks!! Thanks for sharing! xx
@lemayan (188)
• Germany
4 Sep 08
surely this cannot be hard leave him, besides if it is casual you might end up like the other woman with a baby and a casual boyfriend besides what kind of mess is that? he doesnt tell you about the other woman, you find out on his computer on your own!! that should make you wonder do you mean anything to this man?, despite it being casual, and anyway he is not being honest with you
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@Munchkin547 (2778)
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4 Sep 08
I think you're probably about right there! thanks for the response! xxx
@MementoMori (237)
• Canada
3 Sep 08
Wow...This is awful! At least you didn't get too attached to this guy though, that would've been much, much worse...My advice would be to tell him off, and never talk to him again...
-Mike
@Munchkin547 (2778)
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3 Sep 08
that's true! i think that might be for the best, although i am disappointed in him! thanks for the response! xxx