McCain has a country singer supporting him and Obama has Madonna
By ZephyrSun
@ZephyrSun (7381)
United States
August 25, 2008 2:55pm CST
I don't know who the country singer is that wrote a song about McCain, in favor of him nothing bad, well at least that I could tell from the song. I'm not into country music really. Madonna on the other hand I grew up with her on the radio all the time and it seemed like she was on every channel. It seems that she doesn't really like Mr. McCain either and has taken a swipe at him. The McCain camp has since came out with a comment calling it "Outrageous". I did hear that Toby Keith is also supporting Obama I can't find any information about that rumor so I can't say for sure.
Do you think that a rock/pop/rap/country singer either endorsing or opposing a person running for president helps or hurts that person? Do you think that you would support a candidate just because your favorite singer is supporting that person? I personally think it's silly but there are a lot of people that are such fans they would jump on the "bandwagon" of their favorite star. If I remember correctly some people were really upset and outraged when the Dixie Chicks said something about Bush, I don't remember what it was but it sparked a feud with Toby Keith.
Oh, here's the Madonna article if you care to read it.
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/madonna-not-a-huge-fan-of-mccains/145648?icid=200100125x1208055974x1200434212
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 08
The Dixie Chicks dissed the entire country, I believe they said (well, one of them actually) that they were ashamed to be Americans during a performance overseas, which started the fight between them and Toby Keith and basically ruined them in the U.S.
I like music and I like television and I like movies but I don't believe that, just because someone can sing, dance or act, they automatically have brains and/or good judgement. So, no, endorsements from celebrities or slams by other celebrities don't have any impact on my opinions of the candidates. I am still trying to get a handle of their positions and their plans...that's what I'm voting on, not on who likes or dislikes them.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I know that the intelligent population of the US doesn't bother with whom their favorite singer/actor whatever endorses but I know that there are people that would run and vote due to their favorite actor/singer/talk show host.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Aug 08
The Dixie Chicks most certainly did NOT diss the entire country! Natalie Maines made the comment during a performance in England that they were embarrassed that George W. Bush was from Texas. That's hardly that they were ashamed to be Americans!
Annie
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I have to say that I have heard other people from Texas say the exact same thing. Some of my family lives there and they can't wait until Obama becomes president, each week I get an email counting down the days that Bush is out. lol
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
25 Aug 08
My first thoughts, the old addage, "shut up and sing" comes to mind. But if your not going to at least promote your candidate productively. A quick comparison of the 2 endorsments. The endorsment of McCain by john Rich (of big and rich) and the song he wrote calle "Raisin McCain" is a respectable endorsment of John McCain, the song can be downloaded here if you want to hear it, you can download it here:
http://www.johnrich.com/
The song is just a rallying tune for the most part, nothign derogitory about Obama
the Modana "endorsment" simply shows pictures of Obama on a video screen at one of her shows with other pictures of people like Ghandi and john lennon. then flashes McCain's picture up with pictures of hitler. This is so typical of the hollywood and pop music scene, it's sickening and demonstrates a complete lack of any couth or intellignce and makes absolutely no point or coherant message at all about the candidate she is endorsing.
Now, Who would you rather have endorsing you?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
Ok, I usually don't start backward with responses but I wasn't paying attention today and opened yours first lol. Then I found this about Toby Keith and wanted to touch on that first, because I really got the impression that he was a Conversative but now I don't know lol So here's the link to that
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/20/toby-keith-for-obama/
I don't know which I would rather have endorse me. I of course am a great deal like Madonna (I could give an F less what people think of me and I tell it like it is, if I think you're an ahole I just tell you). I don't know if a country singer would be a good endorsement because some people still think of country siners as dumb hicks. Which to each their own and it doesn't make it right.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
25 Aug 08
No, who the celebrities vote for is their own business and for the most part I wish they would keep it to themselves. Only an occasional very well done endorsement gets through to me. I thought the one Jack Nicholson did as the Joker endorsing Hillary Clinton was clever.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
LOL I didn't know that about Jack Nicholson. That's not only clever but extremely funny. I was just having a conversation with xfactor (not spelled right) today about the "Land of Confusion" video where they had a puppet Reagan dressed up as Superman. I guess we are the general public have to sit back and laugh.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Aug 08
What I think is really hilarious is how various artists have sued the McCain campaign for using their music without permission. I think Jackson Browne is the most recent to do so and I think John Mellencamp had done it earlier.
I really don't think many people would make up their minds as to who to vote for baed on what their favorite singer says but I disagree with those who think entertainers somehow have less of a "right" to speak their minds than the rest of us do. They have a bigger audience because their fans have given it to them, it's the free market at work, isn't it? The one thing I will say is when an entertainer speaks out about political issues or other world problems, whether I agree with their viewpoint or not, I tend to gain respect for them because it's nice to see that people we tend to think of as shallow and self-centered have more substance than we thought.
Annie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Aug 08
" disagree with those who think entertainers somehow have less of a "right" to speak their minds than the rest of us do"
I don't think they do either. BUT.....and it's a BIG but......what they do have, at least at a general human moral level, is the great reponsability in how they speak it. If modana had stopped on stage and simply in her dialoug with the crowd. I'm "supporting Obama because I think we need a diferent direction in this country and I think he is the one....yadda yadda" Or simply presented Obama's image. Or just generaly be a public posative activist for him in her public life.
McCain - hitler
Cmon. seriously. cmon
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Well X maybe to Madonna he appears that way, I know that I don't have to tell you that she is a huge supporter of women's rights and well McCain really isn't.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
Very well said, I guess with the whole Madonna thing it seems strange because normally people don't hear her talk about politics. I personally find it interesting when stars talk about issues because well I'm usually shocked by there political preferrence. I would have never believe Toby Keith being a Democrat since he "lost" his mind of the Bush comment.
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@freefogging (356)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Don't you think this election is getting crazy? The stabbing back and forth at each other, neither one of them are in touch with the real issues such as health care, the economy, gas prices, help for the poor and homeless. Mc Cain could really help the homeless with his 10 houses, I bet they are each big enough to house about 4 families each. That would be a big help. They really need to stop the crap and get to the real issues. Al though at the end what it really comes down to is are they really going to do what they say.....I still want Hillary to be president...I think the Clintons did a great job and I believe they could clean up the messes AGAIN that the bushes leave behind.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Aug 08
"Mc Cain could really help the homeless with his 10 houses, I bet they are each big enough to house about 4 families each. That would be a big help."
Actually those houses would do nothing to help the homeless. Do some research into cities that have moved homeless people into free or low cost housing to get them on their feet. Such programs have been dismal failures that end with trashed homes, ruined walls, and every inch of copper wire stripped from the building.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Great point! I wanted Clinton in as well. But, I have to say that if it is going to be a man it should be Obama. 8 years ago I would have said McCain but he has changed into Bush and we really don't need 4 or 8 more years of Bush's oh excuse me Rove's policies. If anyone is in touch with America it would be Obama I couldn't imagine paying the student loans that those two must have had after those colleges they attended. My sister went for 4 years to a private college and when she got out she was $40,000 in debt. Could you imagine what Princeton and Harvard cost?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Taskr
You're right those homes wouldn't help the homeless, they are in "rich" areas/cities/towns whatever. When I lived in Lake Tahoe the police would pick up the homeless and give them a lift to the next county and it was widely excepted by the community. Which is sad because most of the people that lived there that weren't celebrities we pretty poor. I'm going back 17 years ago and we had a 4 bedroom 4 bath house and my parents paid almost 4000 a month in rent.
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@devylan (695)
• United States
26 Sep 08
I think the next generation of electors might just fall for this bait hook, line, and sinker. That is how they are being raised in our media driven society. It will truly be a popularity contest far more than it is now if something doesn't change soon.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
26 Sep 08
unfortunately devylan I think you are absolutely correct.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Sep 08
Very true. But, in some aspect there are "stars" that are very intelligent and could do a lot for a candidate they just need to do it tastfully.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Obama has a lot of celebrities supporting him, and I do not if this is a good thing or a bad thing? So far, having a lot of celebrities supporting Obama seems like a good thing.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Interesting. I think it's funny that celebrities are supporting him.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
25 Aug 08
My political views are mine, and not to be influenced by someone else, not even my mother, or my husband. I am going to vote for the person that I believe in, and that is all there is to it. People can vote for whem ever they want, and I will do the same thing. I think it's terrible what politicans are doing to try and influence the votes of the general public. it's crazy!!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I agree with you totally. Speaking of your husband, did you two have fun while he was visiting? I haven't seen you on so I figured that you and him were enjoying your time together.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Endorsements are usually a good thing so long as they don't come from someone who is hated by your supporters. Madonna's endorsement may not do much for Obama. She's shown herself to be a complete moron in the way that she endorse him.
In case you are unaware, here's how she endorsed and slammed McCain at her concert.
"Amid a four-act show at Cardiff's packed Millennium Stadium, a video interlude carried images of destruction, global warming, Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, Zimbabwe's authoritarian President Robert Mugabe _ and U.S. Senator John McCain. Another sequence, shown later, pictured slain Beatle John Lennon, followed by climate activist Al Gore, Mahatma Gandhi and finally McCain's Democratic rival Barack Obama."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/24/madonnas-sticky-and-sweet_n_120902.html
So not only does she have the audacity to compare McCain to Hitler and Mugabe, but she is dumb enough to compare Obama to Al Gore and Mahatma Gandhi. I missed the part where Obama fought for equality as Gandhi did, or when he did anything remotely similar to travelling the world in a war against global warming as Gore did. When exactly did Obama even dream of doing anything worthy of a Nobel Prize?
It was just a shameful and idiotic display by a washed up star trying to get attention.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Aug 08
If she was trying to say McCain was evil and Obama was good then clearly she was comparing them to the people pictured with them, i.e. Hitler.
How can children's issues be used as an excuse? I don't know how pro-life is bad for children. I'd think wanting children to be born is pretty good for them. That's anyone's call I suppose.
Either way comparing any American politician to Hitler is just foolish and ignorant. I'm sure there are no shortage of democrats praising her for it though. Any slam on McCain is seen as a good thing to some people no matter how disgusting and unfounded it is.
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
27 Aug 08
If anything Madonna did it to draw attention to herself. I doubt that she cares at all and it was in bad taste to do it. Regardless if it was the other way around. It was an ignorant statement. But we all know that Madonna isn't known for her intelligence.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I do agree with coolseeds that it was done as an attention getter. It is just a marketing ploy on her part. I believe you read too much into it Taskr, I think that it wasn't comparing McCain to Hitler, and Obama to Gandhi it was more just showing good and evil. With that said, Madonna probably does think that McCain is evil. I already stated earlier how she is very big into women's rights and children's issues and McCain was rated the lowest of the senators for being for children.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
26 Sep 08
Most of these celebrities are trying to get attention more than supporting one Candidiate over the other. Jackson Browne sued McCain, Look at his website, He ahs a new album coming out. Even when Janet Jackson showed her boob on the Super bowl, my first thought was, I'll bet she has an album coming out. Sure enough I was right. Madonna is way to old to be doing what she has done all her life, so she needs all of the help she can get. Being Banned in Germany only made people in other countries want to see her that much more. Crowds of people are easily manipulated.
There have been many people that have done despicable things in Obama's name. Like that football player who said he don't that s**t cause he black. Talking about the National Anthem. Or Obama's Favorite rapper Ludicris's song that was just plain offensive. And Obama said that he let's his 3 yo daughter listen to this pervert.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I appreciate your civility, and no it wasn't a typo. I heard a sound bite of Obama saying that his daughter sings along with one of luda's songs. So I don't have a reference. But I told a friend about it and he said that there isn't a song of his that any kid should be listening to. I have read some of his lyrics and anyone who is not offended is...well I don't know what is wrong with anyone that would listen to that kind of poison. At any age.Sorry.
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@dragonstar1 (330)
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28 Sep 08
I don't generally like the nasty rap stuff you get going on. My brother listens to this stuff called krunk (crazy & drunk). Honestly it's low!
The problem I find thoug is people take these people too seriously, whether it's those that follow suit or those that slam it.
It's like a soap opera, take it with a pinch of salt. If more people did this I think they'd fade quickly back in to obscurity where they belong.
It's only because people highlight and cause publicity they get put on these pedestals.
As you say its easy to manipulate.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Sep 08
I guess being from an urban setting I didn't find Ludacris offensive and honestly what he said about Bush isn't anything different than what hasn't been said by millions of people. I'm not sure if that was a typo on your last sentence but Obama did not state that he would let his children listen to Luda here's what was quoted off of Bill O'Reilly's site on FOX (figured FOX was best for you conservatives)
"Last month in Rolling Stone magazine, Obama praised Ludacris as a great businessman, but said he wouldn't let his daughters listen to his raps."
You can read it for yourself at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395984,00.html
Now, I could be a bytch like most conservatives and be nasty to you for having your facts wrong but, I'll leave it at this.
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@donna22 (1116)
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25 Aug 08
There may be some influence but Id hope most people would be able to think for themselves. Obviously Madonna is a more trendy endorsement and goes well with Barack Obama's image to fit in with and appeal to the young people despite her being 50 now. I think it can both help and hurt depending on how excatly that celebriy endorses them. If all they do is say they support that candidate then it will help but if they start bad-mouthing the other candidate then this can cause problems.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Aug 08
I would hope that most will decide for themselve but we all know a certain someone here on mylot that would not be able to do that. I'm not naming names but if you think hard you'll figure it out lol
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@dragonstar1 (330)
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28 Sep 08
If they had a button for most stupid response I would hope this post would get it.
Oven chips or Obama?
Well oven chips are certainly bad for you (I'm guessing mcain frozen food is in the US too?).
or
Surname similar sounding to...........
I certainly have no confidence in anyones politicians, least of all ours!
I like the Robin Williams quote on politics!
I certainly don't envy you guys on this one!
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
28 Sep 08
LMAO Oh my that was funny! I forgot about the "chips". Sorry, I have only had one friend from overseas (born and raised) and he is from England and when you said oven chips I had no idea what you meant until I thought about it. Yes we actually do have the McCann frozen food here.
This election has become such a joke. McCain's running mate makes Forrest Gump look like he graduated from Harvard. I'll be glad when it's all over with. Which will be soon but still seems forever.
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@madracer321 (3)
• United States
26 Aug 08
I believe that it all depends on how they present themselves in doing so. Depending on how they do this.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Yeah I don't think any of them would like someone like Marilyn Mason coming out endorsing them lol.
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