Palin's bridge to flip-flop
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
September 3, 2008 10:49pm CST
Tonight we heard Sarah Palin say that he was against the infamous "bridge to nowhere". Apparently in Alaska they don't have the internet. According to the mayor of Ketchikan, Alaska Sarah Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere". She used the bridge in her campaign to help get votes from Alaskians in the area. When it became a national story, Sarah flip-flopped and said the state couldn't afford it. But, the great reformer, and women who is agains earmarks, kept this earmark. She has said many times that she told congress thanks, but no thanks, but she never actually said no thanks, she said I will keep that money. She released a statement about the bridge project that told the world how much she opposed this earmark: "It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Palin said in the news release. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here." If that doesn't say I oppose this project 100% I don't know what does.
This article shows 100% that Sarah Palin supported the bridge to get elected, and then claimed to oppose the project to the national press, then told the people of Alaska that the rest of America doesn't know what they are talking about.
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@2minicoopers (239)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Are you really going to base your vote on a "bridge"? How rediculas is that, there are more important issues to worry about like not allowing a muslim terrorist to take over our country! PLEASE!
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@mcat19 (1357)
• United States
4 Sep 08
I looked under my bed -- no Muslim terrorists there. I think the point of this article was that Ms Palin flip flops and doesn't tell the truth. Like her running mate she changes her story for her own political purposes. It's sad, but not quite as bad as calling Barack Obama a Muslim for your own political purposes.
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@2minicoopers (239)
• United States
4 Sep 08
No I called him a muslim because he was born one not for political reasons. Most of his family are muslims, His own cousin is trying to implimint sharia law in Kenya and Obama supported him in his campaign called "CHANGE" sounds familiar doesn't it?
If anyone flip-flops it's Obama he is going to get the US blown up! According to his friends in Lybia, he is a Muslim, and they hope he doesn't let them down when he is in office or they have threatened to kill him like they SAY they did Kennedy.
Anyways that is the bigger issue here not some stupid bridge!
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
4 Sep 08
And here is a list of five of Obama's flip flops.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html
I don't know when it was last updated so there might be even more. Like his flip flop on offshore drilling.
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@Bertman410 (302)
• United States
4 Sep 08
I'm glad some wrote something about her so I didn't have to write a discussion. First of all the more I read about this women the more and more I dislike her. For one I still think this is a stunt by John McCain to gain the female vote. Before last week I didn't know who this lady was. That's like me becoming the VP nominee. Who the hell knows me other than people around me. Would you vote for me? Most likely not. Grant it she is known by the people of Alaska but to everyday Americans that don't live in Alaska we know nothing about her except her daughter is pregnant. And we only got two months to learn enough about her to see if see is fit to be VP. 2 MONTHS. Thats not enough time to decide on a VP that we know nothing about. It is a lot more time then it took McCain to choose her as VP. Considering it took him under a week to pick her as VP.
Second of all, she had not showed any intention of running for President more less the Vice President. I mean at least Hilary Clinton showed her interest in being the President grant it she was not selected the nominee for VP either but if she would have been then people would have seen her ability to be a VP. Sarah Palin hasn't none anything to show the people of America that she wants to be VP or President other that excepting the nominee. Hell if I was selected as VP I would except it. Doesn't mean I know what the hell I'm doing. Does it? NO!
I think a good VP should be someone who has a interest in being President because thats what the VP becomes if something happens to the President. But no she has not showed any interest what so ever in being the President.
This is just my opinion.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Her name was mentioned as being in the running for McCain's VP two months ago. Sorry you didn't get the memo.
And just how do you think she should act inn order to prove to you that she really does want to be the vice president?
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Well, obviously McCain felt that she was interested in the job and it was his choice and he chose Sarah Palin the governor of Alaska.
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@Bertman410 (302)
• United States
4 Sep 08
How can she show me.... How about show some interest in being the President of the United States of America... Not only because your selected as VP but because you really want to be President or VP... Its called run a damn campaign.... Even if she only had enough money for a 7 day campaign at least she would have showed some general interest in holding this type of job....
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
4 Sep 08
_ I would like to beg any future posters on this subject to actually research what the bridge to nowhere is before they say anything.
...That said, I already knew that she actually supported the bridge. I didn't know she was actually saying she didn't, last I heard McCain was saying that for her.
But still. *thumbs up* Thanks for posting this.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
6 Sep 08
She said it again yesterday too, I think for a press release or something...
*sigh* Why must she lie?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
4 Sep 08
xParanoiax, She did say in her speech tonight that same line she has said many times, "I told Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere".
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Bingo! You caught on to that too! Some good nosey reporter is going to dig deeper and deeper...she had better watch what she says. There is always a record or paper trail...
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Yup, the very first 'credential' the GOP used to qualify Palin has been exposed as a grade-A shameless lie.
I guess that's what happens when the VP pick is someone the nominee has only met once in person before (oh, and spoken on the phone with once for five minutes too).
Oh, and did you hear? Some of Palin's earmarks are ACTUALLY on McCain's infamous "pork list":
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-earmarks3-2008sep03,0,6145252.story
Talk about irony! Could the Republican campaign have chosen (because you can tell this wasn't McCain's choice--McCain wanted Lieberman, but Rove said no) a worse complement for McCain?
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
4 Sep 08
"McCain wanted Lieberman, but Rove said no) a worse complement for McCain?"
And where did this come from? The Huffington Post or The Daily Kos?
McCain made the right choice and it was his choice to make.
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
4 Sep 08
McCain has been a puppet for a long time, imo--look at how he has abandoned all of the positions that separated him from Bush in his 2000 campaign. Do you really think he has changed his mind on EVERY SINGLE MAJOR ISSUE out there in eight years? Here are the facts:
1. Just before McCain made his pick, Rove called Lieberman and tried to get him to withdraw his name from consideration as VP.
2. McCain had met Sarah Palin ONCE in person for 15 minutes before she became the VP pick, and she hadn't been vetted to a degree even close to that of Romney and Pawlenty, as can be seen by the fact that all these scandals are coming out now (the media is more than happy to do the vetting McCain's campaign didn't).
It is clear that this was a last-minute pick by McCain's campaign after Obama's very successful acceptance speech to do one or more of the following:
1. Rally up the conservative base to try and close the "enthusiasm gap"
2. Intentionally make a wild pick in order to blunt news coverage of Obama's speech
3. Try and get Hillary supporters to vote for him just because his pick has two X chromosomes (never mind that on the issues, Palin and Clinton are polar opposites)
I'm actually giving McCain the benefit of the doubt here--if the pick was 100% his, then he looks like a fool for choosing someone he doesn't know and wasn't proprely vetted to be his possible successor. It completely contradicts his "country first" message to choose a VP for such blatantly political purposes, as opposed to who one thinks is best suited to govern in one's stead, should the unthinkable happen.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
6 Sep 08
Pias, I heard that Liberman was his first choice from Trent Lott on Brian, and the Judge yesterday morning. Lott supported Romney, and said that he was part of the VP selection process, he also mentioned said that Rove threatened McCain, and told him the party wouldn't support Liberman. That is exactly what Lott said, now he also said something that should scare every single American. He said that McCain promised him that he would discuss issues that effect their grandchildren, because they are? grandfathers, and not because of his current career. Who does Mr. Lott do for a living, you might ask? He is a lobbyist, of course. So Mr. McCain promised his former friend that he would discuss important matters that effect their grand children if he is elected president. What a Maverick; George W. Bush would never have ask a lobbyist what he thought about a bill. What a reformer; who would have thought that contacting a lobbyist to discuss important bills would be reform. Sounds like the same kind of "reform" that Bush brought us in 2000. I think the American people are sick of republican style "reform".
@DaddyOfTheRose (2934)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I didn't know anything about this bridge to nowhere business. But, it doesn't surprise me to hear that politicians flip-flop. In particular, the Republicans seem to flip-flop and self rationalize on pretty basic issues.
For example, Clinton lied about getting a personal favor from Monica.. "IMPEACH HIM!" cries the Republican. Bush lies about their being weapons of mass destruction or any tie between Iraq and Bin Laden. Deafening silence. :)
Republicans would really attack the "moral fiber" of a democratic candidate who had a pregnant teenage daughter. But, when it happens to one of their people it is.. "a personal matter." (Which, by the way, yes it is a personal matter.)
...
That said, I think we have to accept that people do sometimes change their minds about issues. What might have seemed to make sense before the election might have ceased making sense after. While it is tempting to see this as hypocrisy.. maybe it was just a case of looking at the issue more closely. In the bridge controversy, I can see every justification in wanting to call Palin out on the reversal. I just, personally, don't think I'll attack this one.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
4 Sep 08
*Singing* "Oh this is never going to end, and it will go on and on my friends..."
Yes, I have heard about Palin's "Bridge to Nowhere", and she said that she was against it, but then funded it, and then took back the money.
McCain and Palin "The Campaign to Nowhere".
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
4 Sep 08
From Palin's speech tonight:
"I told the Congress "thanks, but no thanks," for that Bridge to Nowhere.
If our state wanted a bridge, we'd build it ourselves. When oil and gas prices went up dramatically, and filled up the state treasury, I sent a large share of that revenue back where it belonged - directly to the people of Alaska."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/sarah_palins_address_to_the_rn.html
If she messed with that money she'll have to explain herself because in the vice presidential debates Biden will bring it up. Bet on it.
And from now on it would be nice if you list your sources.
@Angra_Mainyu (377)
• United States
13 Sep 08
And the article reads as if written by someone with a 6th grade education. One would think that a site like MSN would have spell and grammar check before they published it online.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
4 Sep 08
Amazing how quickly someone will believe something about a person they dislike without doing any research.
This seems to be happening on both sides of the political spectrum.
Shame on those doing it.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
4 Sep 08
I guess conservatives don't believe that we Liberals have that funny thing called the internet where we can do research. If you need more than one article to show you that she is for and against the bridge just let me know I have about 5 different news articles about this....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26486063/
You can also find it on yahoo news.
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@thinkfuture (191)
• United States
4 Sep 08
I am overwhelmed by your love for President Obama! I hope we can instate the new Marxist Regime quickly to change America for the better as fast as possible!
Vote Obama 2008!
@thinkfuture (191)
• United States
4 Sep 08
We will disarm the country for its own good. We must control the security of America, and it is in the best interest of America to have the coming Revolution; it will bring peace to the world! Long live President Obama!
Vote Obama 2008!
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