I am just concerned with my beautiful student. What's wrong with that?

@djoyce71 (2511)
Philippines
September 4, 2008 9:23pm CST
School case #3: A married male teacher was suspected to have a relationship with his student. A beautiful senior high school student was always seen talking and tagging along with her male teacher in school. Sometimes, they eat lunch together inside and outside campus, they even go to the beach just the two of them. The wife knew about it and got jealous and went to the school to check on them. They became close because she was a varsity player and the teacher was the coach. This girl was a bit of a problem in school. Her adviser had a hard time dealing with her. She was always cutting classes, and when she's in class she always wants to go out for CR, or keeps on texting on her seat. She was even caught by some of her classmates texting with the coach while lectures were going on, that was why teachers confiscate her cp. What she liked was attending practices for volleyball so that she could be with the coach. She had problems in the home that she confided with the coach and not to her adviser. The classmates felt their situation/ closeness was improper. They suspected that there's something going on between the two and "smokes started to scatter in the campus," so they told their adviser about it, but were advised to keep their silence about the issue and let her take necessary steps. What the adviser did was informed the principal about it. The coach was called in the office and was questioned about the issue, but denied about the relationship. He was just concerned about the girl and just comforted her, he said. The principal then, just advised the coach to establish professional gap between his students to avoid suspicions. What can you say about the case? Should the school sanction the teacher? Was there anything wrong with the situation?
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@Ithink (9980)
• United States
5 Sep 08
I dont know it all sounds very suspicious, why would a teacher take a student to the beach alone and Im sorry if the wife started to wonder I would take that as he wasnt spending much time at home. I think the teacher and student should definetly be seperated but to sanction him without total proof I dont know. There is so much wrong with this situation that it is unbelievable, eating lunch on and off campus, the beach, texting at all let alone during lectures .. yeah there was something more going on.
@djoyce71 (2511)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
The teacher should make a way if he really is a teacher, because a real teacher knows what's wrong and what's right, and he should have forwarded the student's problem to the adviser or the guidance counselor.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
Yes that is indeed a dangerous path to take. Sometimes these problem students tries to get attention from their teachers and when they succeed they tend to fall for them. The girl may mistook the special attention given to her. The teacher is fishy when he took the girl at the beach. I find it malicious why would he take the girl there without even bringing his wife there. I think that both should be monitored at all times and they should not be left alone with each other since they are being monitored they may go into underground further that their relationship may further go down to unacceptable level already.
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@djoyce71 (2511)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
Dangerous for both of them. The girl is a teenager and the coach is a married man. Lives might be ruined by their doings.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
True!
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
5 Sep 08
[i]HI djoyce, I was a teacher before and I understand the situation, the teacher just wanted to help and be there for the student but he has to set limitations because we are just human being, we are always bound to any feelings! He can spend time with the student in the campus but going to the beach just the two of them for me is very improper especially he is a family man and he is a teacher! I have known a lot of male teachers who have a relationship with their students and in my friend's case, they were single but still, they are not a good model to the rest of the community! There are several ways to help this student and for the student, she has also to know and define her limitations![/i]
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• Philippines
5 Sep 08
I was a College Instructor before and I don't see anything wrong with giving advice to students even about their personal lives, but well, this is just too close for comfort. I mean, one, the teacher's a he and the student's a she, that's enough for the teacher to see that he should take precautions with his actions. Especially when the wife gets jealous, it's not a normal teacher-advising-student relationship anymore. And shucks! Why does the teacher gives the student his mobile number and then allows her to text her anytime even when she's inside the class? I mean, that's just beyond the code of conduct that the teacher should follow. Even if they deny the relationship, the fact that an issue erupted like that must make the teacher acknowledge that what he's doing is not proper. Once nasty stories go around like that, he should have did something to clear the situation. He should keep his distance. He's a teacher anyways. Teachers should know the right ethics during these situations especially when one is married already. It's not a pretty sight.
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@djoyce71 (2511)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
Yes maple, a teacher should always keep distance from students who are flirting on them. Or he may advised the student what to do about her situation and that's it. No more, no less. It's not his job to deal with all of the student's problem, but the parents'. Thanks for responding.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Sep 08
I'd say they were too close and there may have been something going on. I don't know if you can sanction the teacher without proof though. When I was in High School, a teacher did get involved with a student. He got fired and she got transferred to another school.
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@djoyce71 (2511)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
Hello dawnald. I'm glad you responded. I guess so that it needs more proof to be sanctioned. I just hope teachers avoid this kind of situations.
• India
6 Sep 08
In the described situation you can derive that there was some thing between the two and Inculcation in to towards each other. To me there must be professional gap between the student and the teacher other wise the supreme relation between the teacher in the universe will be shattered.
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@magnet (2087)
• United States
5 Sep 08
If there is not any proof the school can't do anything about the situation. If the wife is suspecting anything of such she need to start gathering her proof and prepare to leave him.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
5 Sep 08
Yes, I felt that there is something to suspect. May be there was nothing wrong but I am saying about the situation. There is some discipline in school. Both teacher and student are responsible to keep the discipline. At this age her responsibility is to concentrate on her studies. Instead she is cutting classes and texting with Coach is sufficient for suspicion. Her coach must be a matured person and he should guide and support her if she is suffering any family problem. Hope he will show some maturity after getting advises from the principal. I have to admit that judging the situation is easy rather than facing and solving the issue.
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@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
5 Sep 08
As long as she is of legal age, then the only real issue here is whether or not him and his wife can work it out. It is none of anyone else's business as long as she isn't underage.
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@redkathy (3374)
• United States
5 Sep 08
If the school took the cell then they read the texts and know the truth. Maybe the coach really was helping. Could it be that he was the only person who the girl related to and was helping while she acted as though it was more?
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• China
5 Sep 08
hi,djoyce,i think it's right to set one gap between the teacher and students,but how to define the gap is not easy.on many aspects,teacher should be a good friend for students,but in a few land,it's not proper.neverthless,if i were a teacher,i love being sisters or brothers to my students,do what i should do.
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• Philippines
5 Sep 08
It needs proper proof.... But her in the phillipines, every school has a law that prohibits that kinda thing between a teacher and a student. Maybe, that is because teachers are acting as 2nd parents and a parent will not do that to his/her child... maybe, that kind of relationship is ok if the student is already graduated and the teacher is still single..lol.. That's it! Im a teacher anyways.
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@kedves (728)
5 Sep 08
I think the teacher was in the worng completely. if it was innocent and he was trying to help the girl he would have told the school advisors what he was doing and also the headmaster and most importantly his wife. he abused his position and preyed on a school girl who was having problems to get close to her and win her trust and in time he would have taken advantage of her. this girl needs proper attention and help she does not need to be used by this teacher. teachers are there to help instruct and to protect the children NOT take advantage for their own means.
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@belk89 (1103)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
I dont think there is nothing going on between the coach and the student. There is a limitation as to what extent you can help your student and he obviously have violate that rules. He should know that it is not appropriate to be seen with his student almost everywhere. Not to mention they are seen even at the beach just the two of them! if nothing is going on with them why would the student be so attached to him that even during class hours she would text him. It is a relationship that needs to be stop and i believe that saction is the best thing the school should do.
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@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
I don't want to be judgmental or anything so I think unless it is proven that they do have an affair or something then only then the school must sanction them. It's really hard to put a sanction on them without any evidence because people might still get it wrong between the two of them. For me what the principal did was good enough but only for a short time. They must investigate on this matter.
@msedge (4011)
• United States
17 Sep 08
Teachers act as the parents for the students in school.But the closeness should have a limitation specially the coach is married.As a wife i could understand her feeling of jealousy and besides going out outside the campus may mean differently specially just the two of them.If this is not controlled i suspect it will go to a worst situation.But anybody who have feelings for each other always find away to be together.If the coach really loves his wife then he will try to avoid doing things that would hurt her.
@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
5 Sep 08
From what you posted, I infer that there were things that the girl told the coach, about problems in her life, that he was not passing on to her adviser. I'm going to apporach this from two angles to argue why it's wrong. Professionally, the coach is stepping on the adviser's toes. He's making it hard for the adviser to do his/her work, as he has established himself as "the person to approach", instead of the adviser. True, the student might prefer to talk to him, but he could at least have worked out something with the adviser along the lines of " I know this student prefers to talk to me, but I do know that as her adviser, you do have to keep track of her. While some of the things that she shares with me may be private, if she does tell me about any problems in her life that I feel you need to know, I'll inform you." Plus, the girl is texting him in class. if he were not a teacher in the school, but someone from outside, the verdict would have been clear cut. His prescence is affecting the girl's concentration in class. As it is, since he's a teacher in the school, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that he told the girl before that "If you have any problems, you can look for me" and she took it literally. Socially, since his wife has already gotten jealous, putting aside the issue of the social impact on the girl, it should be quite obvious to him that further instances of "just concerned about the girl and just comforted her" would obviously cause his relationship with his wife to deteroiate. Is he putting concern for the girl over concern for his wife? There shouldn't be any excuse that he's worried for the girl and so he's spending a lot of time alone with her. Just how hard is it to ensure that another fellow teacher is nearby, out of earshot, but able to see the two of them when they are talking? In fact, you don't really need a fellow teacher, just ensuring that her classmates can see you when both of you are talking should be enough. It's not for the girl, it's for the male teacher and his wife's relationship.
• Australia
5 Sep 08
I think either she should be suspended from volleyball or they should make the coach go to another school and teach. I think the line between student and teacher has been blurred in this case. Even if nothing cement has been done, it's still too close for a student and a teacher to be. She needs to hang around with people her own age and if she needs to confide in someone, let it be the school counsellor.
@dong1970 (1572)
• Philippines
5 Sep 08
Hi des, I smell fishy.....(LOL)If that girl is making the first move,it's her fault.The teacher should also also aware of what he is doing. but i guess,School must take actions regarding this case.
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