Do the Republicans think Palin is the same as Hillary?
By Barbietre
@Barbietre (1438)
United States
September 9, 2008 11:55pm CST
Just because they picked a woman do they think those of us who supported Hillary we are automatically going to vote for McCain/Palin? I mean get real, yeah she is a woman but that is where the similarity ends. Hillary does not supprt any of the issued that Pain supportsand vica versa.
I personally I think as a woman it is an insult to my intelligence to think I will now vote
that way simply because a woman is on the ticket!
that way simply because a woman is on the ticket!7 people like this
16 responses
@lloydanthony111 (4698)
• United States
11 Sep 08
The Palin/McCain ticket believes that women should vote for them just because Palin is a woman.
Forget the fact that she may have the deciding vote in overturning Roe vs. Wade.
Forget the fact that she is one heartbeat away from being President.
Forget the fact that she wants to overturn all the gains made by women.
I can't believe how many women have gone over to the Palin/McCain camp because she's now on the ticket.
If they think that she has their best interests in mind, then they are sadly mistaken.
P.S. When will the Palin/McCain ticket start discussing the issues facing ordinary, everyday Americans?
Lloyd
@lloydanthony111 (4698)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Why do you and others believe they have any right telling a woman what she can and cannot do with their own bodies?
Don't you have enough to do without getting into someone elses personal business.
You people are very intrusive.
Lloyd
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@II2aTee (2559)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Clinton 2012!
I am glad to see so far that women do not seemed to be fooled by this ploy. Palin is a woman but she stands in stark contrast to the very things that American women need, and all the things that Hil fought for. She decided to carry all of her children to term - good for her. But that dosent mean she is some shining example of all women. It's easy for her to raise a 5 child family when she is a politician and her husband is an Oil Executive. Hello.
But the average American family struggles to feed, raise, and school just one or two children. For women who cannot AFFORD to have more children but get pregnant for one reason or another, forcing them to birth the child is like forcing them into poverty. It's HARD times we are living in (If you are not married to an Oil Tycoon, that is). And if abortions are made illegal... women will find ways to still have them.
History paints the grousem picture THAT leads to.
The McCant campaign must think Hillary followers are blind. They are in for a rude awakening when they find out that the people who follow Hillary actually have BRAINS, and are able to see right through Palin.
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@II2aTee (2559)
• United States
10 Sep 08
You completely missed the point of my post. Pro-choice is not about pro-abortions. It's about being Pro-Life with the lives we have NOW. If a woman cannot support a child... should she be FORCED into poverty to do so? Should she be FORCED to carry the uncomfortable, unwanted pregnancy for 9 months, and then be FORCED to give it up for adoption?
No. Thats the stand of pro - choice. We are Pro-Life. The life that exists NOW.
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@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Well, my goodness - - where to start here, and whew - - - some of you are so reved up about all of this.
Isn't it amazing how easy it is for us to jump on people's faults and be critical about them no matter what they do or say, or stand for?I was getting really bored with the whole political arena - and then it got really primmed with Mrs. Palin's entrance. Why is it that folks want to jump on the fact that she's got 5 children (one being a special needs child)? Many would have just thought the extra work dealing with that little one, wasn't worth it, and "emptied the womb." I find society's attitudes on abortion repulsive, and yes, I'm aware of the ramifications of incest and rape.
Have you ever looked into what goes on in an abortion? It has been said that monitoring instruments, placed upon the mom's tummy could detect "screams" from the (ah - fetus yah right!) as it wass being excremented like yesterday's trash.
Abortion causes many emotional problems as well and tremendous guilt and depression.
If we were as gung-ho about preventing pregnacies that are not wanted, as we are about using abortion as 'birth control,' we would be doing a service to unborn life.
What the Democratic Party did to Hilary was very unfair. But I can't get all heated up just because Mrs. Palin is now in the spotlight. She DID do a lot of good things in Alaska.
Everything will turn out as it is supposed to, so no need to get all huffy about the candidates. It's bad enough that they are doing that to each other.
Set your bias aside and just see what you can learn from a "good" standpoint with all of them. We need more unity in this country, instead of everyone choosing up sides, and saying: WE are the ONES - and WE have all of the right answers.
It's going to be an interesting couple of months, and I'll be glad when it's over with, cause I'm tired of all the judging and criticism and griping at every little thing - and the media doesn't help matters any either. 'nuff said
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I felt exactly as you do until I realized that the McCain camp is not trying to get Hillary's votes with this nomination. They are playing to the right wing and they have solidified that base with this very mediocre choice. Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton and I expect her nomination will drive Hillary's people solidly over to Obama. I know it has put me (a Hillary supporter)firmly into the Obama column. Any doubts I may have harbored were removed when Sarah Palin became the Republican nominee.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
12 Sep 08
I honestly think there is more to it than this, though the media plays up this similarity every chance they get. First off, Palin was not the only woman that was on the list. Kay Baliey Hutchinson was also on that pick list. While her being a woman may have figured into McCain's final choice, I really do not think he picked Palin as a Hillary replacement.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Heck no, Republicans don't think she's another Hilary. That's why we love her and can relate to her...and could not relate at all to Hilary.
But there were women who were going to vote for Hilary who are now going to vote for McCain/Palin. Our local news has interviewed quite a few. So has the national news media. One Hilary spokesperson said that of the 18 million Hilary supporters, probably 8 million would vote for McCain/Palin. That's because Hilary had the support of both liberal Democrats and moderates and independents. Palin appeals to conservatives and to some moderates and some independents.
Yesterday's Gallop poll said that 53% of white women would vote for McCain/Palin. (I have to wonder if we'll ever have polls that don't mention race or ethnicity. It's doubtful.)
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@redchase (347)
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10 Sep 08
well, palin seems to be as big a wacko as mccain so i think thats also a reason why they picked her. it is sad to say that some swing voters will be voting for mccain simply because he has a woman vp. they dont care whats going on as long as a woman gets in. its all the angry hillarites. they cant stand the thought that obama got the nomination and i guess for them it was an all or nothing deal.
@Barbietre (1438)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Well I was not thrilled that Hillary did not get the nomination, but you deal with it and move on. I think Obama is a decent man with a good heart and will do the right thing. And to be honest many of the other Democratic choices were still better than the Republicans anyhow. And I think Biden was a decent choice as VP. It is good to have a balance. He will be a good advisor for Obama.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
12 Sep 08
Personally, I think it will all depend on the Vice Presidential debates as to who people think is the stronger of the 2. They are not allowing Palin to be on her own, which I feel is misleading everyone. Personally, she is No Clinton, and at the same time has no Experience with things that should matter so how can we know what she would really do. Just so many unknowns, and things that I fear could be a huge downfall if they win. Personally, I think McCain should have picked someone else for sure.
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@Mitraa (3184)
• India
17 Sep 08
Yes, your points are quite obvious! Putting a substitute can never fulfil the real advantages of the desired ones! This in other words can be apprehended as immotional motivation. Anyway, you have made out the point as per your intelligence and that is a great resolution I think! Thanks for your nice points!
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I wasn't aware that McCain chose Palin to win Hillary's voters. He may have chose her because he has plans for Alaska if he wins and including her would make it easier. I can't see why he chose her over the others. But he did. 
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@CherylsPearls (1269)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I am sure that is one reason McCain picked Palin. If it wasn't, then why have the Republicans been talking about getting more support from women because of Palin?
Of course, no self-respecting Hillary supporter would ever support a woman like Palin; she seems to go to the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to women's issues. I don't think the women of America can count on her to give voice to their concerns or the concerns they have for their children. She is disgusting.
I'll be happliy voting for Obama since he and I agree on the important issues facing our country. I agree with McCain/Palin on nothing.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Are you kidding? If Republicans thought she was anything like Hillary she would be just as popular as Hill. Meaning:Not very. Palin is the Anti-Hillary. This question is an insult to Republican intelligence. I think I lost a point just reading the question. You guys just think that you are so smart and the Right is so dumb. And that's why you will lose. so keep doin it.
This discussion rates one molehill but no more.
@Barbietre (1438)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Well I do not care if Republicans are insulted, they did enough to insult the country for so long, turnabout is fairplay. And no one forced you to respond.
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@II2aTee (2559)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Morethan, it is not that far of a stretch to assume that the chooseing Palin was a strategic move on the Republican front? You cannot tell me that of all the possible VEEPs, Palin stood out as the best of the best. The fact that she is a women played a HUGE part in her nomination, and the orriginal poster poses a fair question.
Your response is nothing but a trolling bash, and the creator of this discussion poses a fair question. Interesting that your first reaction is to attack... let me guess... your a Republican, right?
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
10 Sep 08
It's obvious that you don't care who you insult but you asked Republicans a Question, Since I am a Republican, didn't you want my answer? Or is this just going to be a Dems only bash?
@nanajanet (4436)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I think that was the purpose of having an attractive woman. Trying to get some male votes, for her looks (as some just don't investigate the issues), trying to get some female votes, because she is a woman (same as above), but much that she stands for is so against what I do.
Additionally, I am not voting for the vice-president but the president. I hear things like, "people say she is inexperienced but so it Obama," but who is really experienced at being the president? Have we not seen more "experienced" men get into the White House and mess things up?
I am sad that Hillary did not get this far but I sure as heck am not going to vote for McCain, just because he chose a female running mate.
It's scary, though, because since she was on the ticket, the polls have gone in his favor, but we know, even the voting process can be in someone's favor and they can still lose (I.E. Gore vs Bush).
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
1 Jun 10
I cant stand either one of them. I'm normally right wing, conservative. Even so, I hate Palin. I think she is a horrid person and a danger to society. Both women strongly support the issues I hate on either side.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
12 Sep 08
I think McCain or someone from his camp had a litmus test for running mate and a check list with several requirements their VP choice had to meet no matter what. From what I've heard, which may or may not be true, McCain's personal choices were Lieberman or Ridge but they were eliminated due to their pro-choice beliefs, so I think it was someone else who pressured him into his final choice. The fact that he chose Sarah Palin after meeting her in person once and briefly speaking with her on the phone once and obviously not vetting her as thoroughly as a potential running mate would be expected to be vetted backs up my views.
I think the check list stated the GOP V.P had to be very conservative, staunchly anti-choice, much younger than McCain and last but certainly not least, a WOMAN. This is no dig at Palin but at McCain himself, but the fact that she, like both of his wives, is a former beauty queen or model is quite telling as to his attitude towards women and it only adds to my feeling of being offended at the very idea women in general would also be so shallow as to vote for his ticket now just because in includes a woman even though two women couldn't be less alike than Sarah and Hillary are.
Annie
@Sarah1108 (310)
• United States
14 Sep 08
i really hope they dont think that. Palin is nothing like hillary! Hillary believes in freedom for women and Palin does not think women should have to right to choose almost everything. i think if Palin becomes the VP we are taking a HUGE step back. The only thing they have in common is they are women. Hillary knows the importance of family and Palin only thinks if you live the way she does then you are okay.
