How do you feel about people trying to convert you?
By likaes
@likaes (496)
Singapore
September 13, 2008 9:35pm CST
You know the type - people telling you about the benefits of joining their religion. Quoting passages from the bible which means absolutely nothing to you. Telling you how different their religion is from other religions and trying to convince you that joining theirs is better than joining others.
Frankly, I think they're all the same. Be it Jehovah's Witnesses, or Catholics or Christians. Though, these seem to be the most in-your-face. I have no problems with Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Confucianism and so on - they don't spend their time trying to convert me.
I don't have a religion myself, but I support people who take up Buddhism because its not an actual religion - there's no God to worship! It's about enlightening yourself and being compassionate to others - I think that's a more worthy "religion" than just trying to get everyone to think the same thing as you. Though I don't quite agree with reincarnation or karma either.
Well, that being said, how do you feel about the religions of the world, and about them trying to "spread the good word"?
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@youngsweetheart (772)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I am a Christian myself, but I cannot stand Christians who feel the need to force our religion on others. It's one thing to spread the word, so to speak, and having thoughtful discussions and debates is a great way to get across to people things about your religion without being rude, pushy, or offensive. I am secure enough in my faith that I don't feel the need to make others believe as I do. I think everyone should have the freedom to believe as they wish, providing they aren't hurting anyone.
But this obsession some religions have with converting others bothers me. Leave people be to believe how they wish. Discuss, debate, but don't push your religion on me and I won't push mine on you.
@likaes (496)
• Singapore
14 Sep 08
Well good for you! I personally don't have anything against Christians or anything - in fact a few good friends of mine are Catholic, or Christians. But sometimes, even Christians and Catholics squabble amongst themselves in order to prove which is "better". And from my standpoint, I think that's pretty silly.
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@youngsweetheart (772)
• United States
14 Sep 08
It is absolutely silly. The only religion I take a dim view of is the kind that feels the need to prove its superiority by making others feel bad about themselves or how they live. I've been friends with Wiccans, atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses...all sorts. We were able to have active, respectful, intelligent discussions regarding our separate beliefs, which were very enlightening for all involved. We didn't look down on each other for not believing exactly the same - doing so undermines the idea of God's love and acceptance.
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@Uroborus (908)
• Canada
14 Sep 08
Buddhism is a religion. Yes, it doesn't have a God, but that is not a prerequisite for a religion. A more important part of the definition is that it deals with life's existential problems. But anyway, I don't want to get hung up on definitions.
I agree with you, religion should be a personal journey of discovery and it should guide you on nurturing good relations with other people. I don't mind if someone wants to talk to me about their religion, but when they start to push about converting you, then it gets annoying. This is especially the case if you say no to them and they just ignore you and try again. Not only is that rude, but I think it also shows a certain amount of insecurity on their part.
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@likaes (496)
• Singapore
14 Sep 08
Well, okay maybe I phrased it wrongly. It isn't a creationist theory - maybe that's closer to what I meant. As per my beliefs, i don't believe in a single entity that is able to create the universe.
Yes, Buddhism is all about self-discovery and about caring for others. I borrow several of my own moral values from it, though not everything of course. I borrow a little bit from everything.
I think that bit about being insecure rings quite true. There's power in numbers, isn't there? And if you're right, then you have all your friends with you when you ascend. If you're wrong, well.. at least you're going down with your friends right?? =D
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I hear you, likaes. I was raised a Catholic, but I did not believe a thing that they taught me. I am a self-proclaimed Agnostic. I believe in something (you can called It "God" if you want to, but I don't), and we Agnostics do not believe in religion. We believe that there is something in the universe, but it might or might not be God. I think that people who try to convert me are just wasting their time. Do not convert me, people. I have been there and done that. All religions are seriously all the same to me. I, like my father before me, am an Agnostic. I cannot see your "God". I do not believe in what you believe in, and I will not be forced into believing what you believe in. I am an individual and I will not follow the herd of sheep.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Sep 08
I can respect the fact that many religious texts actaully state that they should seek to convert others and I don't have an issue with this if the person talking to me can also be a little open-minded as well. What I really struggle with is people that are so focused on their own beliefs and goals that they pretty much refuse to consider ANY alternative lines of thought. As far as I am concerned, this is counterproductive. I enjoy a good theological discussion but only if it is able to be completely two-sided and open!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Sep 08
hi likaes I hate it when the Jehovahs witnesses come to my door and talk for hours and do not listen when I say I have my own'beliefs so please respect them , and leave me in peace.
I try to be pleasant but they do make me crazy. I am a christian but on my terms, and I do not want to be converted to some other religion at all. I feel that we should all stick to our own religions and not be pushing them on to other people. as I respect others rights to their own beliefs, they should respect
my rights to have my own beliefs also.
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@kishore415 (889)
• India
14 Sep 08
hello likaes
i think all religions preaches the same morals and principles.god is one people prays for him in different forms according to their tradition. it foolish to convert people from one religion to others anyhow all prays for him only.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Sep 08
I believe the best way to convert someone is if they ask about why you do not do certain things like gambling to tell them why, to go to church every Sunday so they can see you going, so that they will ask to come to church with you. The way our church does is to put a flier in the mail box a few times a year. We have a fall supper and vacation bible school during the summer and we have two Sundays a year where we invite the community and we have a magazine about evangalism and some pamphlets, but that is the extent. So we are rather low-key. Yet we are told to spread the gospel and if you read the Ten Commandments it is about obeying God and being compassionate to your neighbor or do you really think that if you disregard the commands to not steal, refrain from covetousness, do not commit adultery, do not murder, that you are being compassionate?
It is up to God to open up a person's heart and if that person refuses to let him or thinks he knows better than God, and some man who sits under a tree is better than God, it is his loss.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Meh, at this point I've heard and seen it all before as far as conversion goes.
To say the least, I'm not impressed.
Sometimes people like this amuse me, sometimes they wear me out, sometimes they make me feel weary and old despite being a YA.
Feel free to talk about religion, is what I always say. But when it comes to people trying to convert me I have to put my foot down. I've sorted out what I believe, I'm content with my reasoning and logic behind these decisions, I'm comfortable with how I've decided to gamble my life and...ahem, afterlife.
I've tried my best.
So I try to make it as clear as possible why being as polite and sweet as possible, as to why they're not gonna get anywhere.
"You're barking up the wrong tree, Bub"
If all else fails, I heed the warnings. I just don't feed the trolls.
I ignore them. (This is only when I've exhausted every other option and they won't leave me alone, lol)
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Aww, well. I've found that it helps to say, "This is what I feel based on such and such. I don't think the Bible is excellent evidence. You undoubtably disagree. Impasse?"
...for some reason this either makes convertors shut up or else they give one evidence of troll-dom -- or at least religious zealotry. Either way, same diff in how we all deal with 'em seems like.
We all got our reasons for believing or not believing what we all do, and I think all reasons are valid (however illogical the rest of us may find them). So pointing out the validity of everyone's beliefs when most people don't want to accept it or even consider the concept, usually stumps the worst of the worst.
It's hard to get a heated debate that involves religion to settle down, so I guess it makes sense that it can really sap our energy because it demands so much attention and emotion sometimes.
@likaes (496)
• Singapore
14 Sep 08
That's how I feel as well some times. I've had debates with friends that leave me exhausted sometimes, because of all the circular reasoning that they use, and my tireless yet unappreciated efforts at trying to convince them that the Bible CANNOT be used as evidence. Once I've managed to disprove something and move on, they bring the point back as if I had never spoken at all.
Sometimes, I really wonder if they all are just a bunch of IRL trolls.
@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
15 Sep 08
The only thing I don't like about those people who force their religion to me is that they are too narrow minded on other religions. They think that they are the only ones who are worthy to be called good and righteous and all others are evil. I mean all of us are human beings and we should treat each other fairly. For me as long as your doing good and you're not hurting anyone your religion is really not a big issue for me.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Well I was raised in a Christian home but I never did like for people to try to convert me. I guess I have believed in God all my life but I have never agreed with a lot of so called Christians are trying to serve him. Since I have come to God on my own mostly I now know what it is that people don't like about people trying to convert them. Very few people are truly qualified to be trying to convert anyone. I think non Christians can see this. I have had several people try to tell me how much God was doing for them when I could see with my own eyes they were still dealing with the same problems I was and not doing any better job at solving them than I was.
The Bible tells us to leave other people alone until God has helped us get our lives where they should be. Matthew Chapter 7 verses 3,4,5. A lot of people have been driven farther away from God by people trying to convert them and they were not qualified to do so. I was 53 when I finally came to God. I always said if I ever became a christian I would go all the way and do it right or I wouldn't do it at all. At 53 I finally got into a position where I could do that. I did it on my own just God and me and no help from anyone. I kept it just between God and me for several months.
I was not going to make the same mistake others had made with me. I just leave it up to God to choose who he wants and then he can send me to help bring them in. One of the first things God taught me is if we are willing to listen to him and work with Him we will not fail.
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@corngrass (727)
• Malaysia
14 Sep 08
I am Christian but me myself are annoyed by people who force people to join their church. As we knows, as Christian, we have lots of churches worship in different ways and forms group such as Methodist, Anglican and so on. Me myself is a Methodist. And I'm annoyed when my friends start to force me to join their church. I don't see what is the need of forcing.
I am Christian and i behave, act and walks like a Christian. If people sees what is in me, and they are attract by the way how a Christian live, they will come by themselves. I can share my opinion as a Christian but i don't see what is the reason to force someone to join. If you feel like joining, yes, you are most welcome. But if you don't i won't argue over it. Just step on my religion, that's my bottom line.
Spreading the good word, doesn't mean we should go door by door, forcing everyone we meet to join our churches. Even we manage to force one to go, what is the use if they can't feel God in their heart? God never force, God give us choices. And that's what i believe.
@elementalgirl81 (38)
• United States
14 Sep 08
While many religions promote evangalism, and some churches enforce it as part of the path you must walk to be a part of that religion, I do not personally like to be the target of a conversion. I have my own religion and respect other people's beliefs. But as I said, I do not like it and they would not like it if I tried to push my religion onto them. I am always up for a good talk about comparative religion, but I do not engage in this type of conversation with people I know will just argue with me that their religion is better. I prefer to talk about different aspects of the religion and how it may be similar or different than others.