Obama was a member of the Socialist Party.
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 responses
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
15 Oct 08
The operative word it WAS. There was even a time when I WAS a baby! Now I'm older than dirt. So?
As a member of the human race, he deserves respect, as do we all.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Oct 08
Was only works with his membership in the Socialist Party. He is still a flaming socialist, he just changed parties to better his chances of winning elections.
He still looks at everyone as peasants who need to be taken care of by the government.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
18 Oct 08
cobrateacher, All you need to do is open your eyes.
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@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
18 Oct 08
May I know the sources of your vitriol?
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@piniongrl (142)
• United States
2 Nov 08
If this statement is solely based on his tax policies, which is what was being discussed with JTP, then you must think that Bill Clinton was also a socialist because the taxes he had on the higher bracket were higher then the Obama proposed taxes. If your talking about the bailout wasn't that originally Bush's answer to the crisis and many wanted to see the bailout be more for the American people then the big companies?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Nov 08
I'm not basing this on either. I'm basing it on the fact that he was a member of the Socialist Party, he admits he actively sought out Marxist professors while in college, and everyone he has looked up to as mentors have been socialists.
While the latter is purely my own opinion, the other two are things he has said publicly.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
4 Nov 08
We'll give you the words of Obama himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDTluWDUBEY
Have I ever said there was anything wrong with a little panhandling? I enjoy street artists myself, and almost always give to them.
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
4 Nov 08
When and where did he say these things, exactly? Are you sure you haven't messed with the source?
Opting out of life to the extent of homelessness is a choice some people I know have done. The computers they use are at the library, and, while they might do a bit of panhandling, those who have a philosophical drive to be homeless generally prefer to do the can thing or something similar to earn their way. None would stoop to soliciting funds from myLot friends! Sorry, but the BS detector is getting clogged.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Cyntrow,
Ther is nothing socialist or communist that will ever match any of my views!
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Cyntrow,
You really haven't got a clue as to what a socialistic or communistic government is or does if you believe they are even remotely related to democracy!
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@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I saw that he sat on the same board with that terrorist. Some people feel that he is a sleeper cell.How sad!People arent researching his background weell enough. I had someone post yesterday that he was only 8 when all that terrorist activity went on with Ayers, when in fact, he was not 8 years old when he sat on that board with him.If these arent red flags then what possibly could be?
@urbandekay (18278)
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30 Oct 08
What rot! Why should being a socialist be deserving of disgust? Are you confusing socialism with communism?
all the best urban
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
31 Oct 08
Not true, go to Little Five Points in Atlanta, you will meet a lot of people who have "opted out" of capitalism. People who have chosen homelessness as a lifestyle have "opted out" of capitalism. Most of the communes that exist have "opted out" of capitalism. Many Amish people, Fundementalist Mormons and other religious groups that are self sustaining have "opted out" of capitalism.
The fact is, if you want to be a socialist, there is no reason to wait for government officials to codify it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Oct 08
Btw, with all that being said, a voter who beleives in the ideals of socialism or communism do have the right to vote accordingly, as do candidates. If enough voters decide that socialism or communism is what they want for the country, then the US will become such.
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@urbandekay (18278)
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30 Oct 08
Well, I would have no objection to capitalism if I could opt out but try as I might banks still charge usury, etc.
No system of government allows you to opt out, grow up
all the best urban
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
30 Oct 08
You might be interested in what Snopes has to say about Obama as a socialist.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/distribute.asp
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
31 Oct 08
All that says is that that particular quote was wrong.
Obama did say that he wants to "spread the wealth". He did say that he actively sought out Marxist professors while he was a student. Most of his economic plan is about class warfare.
Those are facts.
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@urbandekay (18278)
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4 Nov 08
ParaTed, you wobble on about freedom and democracy, yet those European states you consider socialist are at least representative democracies.
Here is the big news for all you Americans that may not have heard it, deafened by the rhetoric.
AMERICA IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY!
Why, because not all states have universal suffrage, that's right not all US states grant all citizens the right to vote.
Lets also look at what freedoms you have: Your constitution grants you certain rights, that is you have certain freedoms guaranteed by constitution and law.
Here is UK we have a permissive constitution, we are free to do whatever we please unless there is a law against it. Now you may say that this extra degree of freedom in UK is only a technical one.
But UK gov agents cannot force a UK subject to spy on their neighbours and use survelance equipment against them. Your, supposedly free government, has the power to do exactly that!
All the best urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
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4 Nov 08
Lets also remember that your so called 'socialist' countries of Europe became democracies between 1918 and 1928 and US did not really become anything close to a democracy till 1964.
Thereby, using your modus operandi, we should expect the 'socialist' Obama bring about a more democratic, freer society and one with less racism.
[Note: I am not saying he will but only that if we employ your reasoning this is what we should expect]
all the best urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
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5 Nov 08
Well, prior to 1964 a huge number of citizens could not vote and therefore US could not be said to be a democracy.
all the best urban
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