Christopher Buckley Backing Obama As McCain/Palin Crashes and Burns.

Hello Hately. You are always welcome to reply to any discussion I start without any repurcusions. It's so childish for someone to give you a negative rating because they disagree with your opinions. Anyway, I joined others in giving you a positive rating. Your friend. Lloyd

I plussed you too, Hatley! Annie

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What are you talking about?

What is this obsession with Barack Obama's birth certificate? If you believe you have more information regarding Barack Obama's citizenship, then you should immediately contact the the United States Department of Immigration and Naturalization. If not, you should give up on this desparate attempt to smear him. I'm sure the authorities have vetted Barack Obama's birth certificate over and over throughout the years. Is this the last straw you guys on the right are hanging onto? If it is, then things are really looking pathetic. Get over the birth certificate issue. It's not going to work. Lloyd

THIS IS THE FINAL CHAPTER REGARDING BARACK OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY AS I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS REDICULOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY AGAIN. Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter By Amy Hollyfield Published on Friday, June 27th, 2008 at 05:21 p.m. http://www.politifact.com... SUMMARY: Since we published Obama's birth certificate, questions about its authenticity have been frequent and fierce. After reviewing the evidence, we're confident in our rulings. It started as a whisper, a trickle of nagging doubt. At full throttle, the accusations are explosive and unrelenting, the writers emboldened by the anonymity and reach of the Internet. And you can’t help but ask: How do you prove something to people who come to the facts believing, out of fear or hatred or maybe just partisanship, that they’re being tricked? (THIS SOUNDS JUST LIKE YOU AND THE REST OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIST HERE AT MYLOT!) Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a document PolitiFact.com had sought for months. Countless chain e-mails, seeking to paint him as a secret Muslim, speculated that his full name included Muhammed (or Mohammed). Some said he is not an American citizen. As a fact-checking news Web site, we went to extensive lengths to sort out the truth. We got a copy of his 1992 marriage certificate from the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics. His driver’s license record from the Illinois Secretary of State’s office. His registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Not to mention all of his property records. Not one of these documents shows a Muhammed (or Mohammed) in Obama's name. They all read "Barack H. Obama" or "Barack Hussein Obama." The ultimate document we sought was Obama’s birth certificate. Unlike the other documents, Hawaii birth certificates aren’t public record. On June 13, 2008, Obama’s campaign released a copy, while launching a fact-check Web site of its own, Fightthesmears.com. The site is a direct response to allegations about Obama that won’t go away: He’s Muslim. He took the oath of office on a Koran. He refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. PolitiFact has researched all of these accusations and none of them are true. (NONE OF THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE TRUE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?) When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us. Then the firestorm started. • Where is the embossed seal and the registrar’s signature? • Comparing it to other Hawaii birth certificates, the color shade is different. • Isn’t the date stamp bleeding through the back of the document “June 2007?” (Odd since it was supposedly released in June 2008.) • There’s no crease from being folded and mailed. • It’s clearly Photoshopped and a wholesale fraud. • • • At PolitiFact.com, we’re all about original sources. We don’t take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating documents. When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). (IT'S IDENTICAL. WHAT PART OF THIS DON'T YOU AND OTHERS UNDERSTAND?) And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here? Because if this document is forged, then they all are. If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies. (DID YOU READ THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH?) (PLEASE CAREFULLY REREAD IT IF YOU HAVEN'T) Peter Goelz knows a little something about conspiracy theorists. He was managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board in 1996 when TWA Flight 800 crashed off Long Island, killing 230 people. While the NTSB’s investigation found no evidence of sabotage or terrorism, the Internet was stocked with insistent accusations. Goelz, who is now a communications consultant in Washington, D.C., says the Internet has given a platform to anyone to say anything. And a way to find others who want to hear it. (THIS IS WHAT YOU AND ALL THE OTHER CONSPIRACY THEORIST ARE DOING) “Online, they can be almost anything,” he said. “They can be the crusading investigators that they always wanted to be.” • • • The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said. “I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.” Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received. (IT'S IDENTICAL, IT'S IDENTICAL, IT'S IDENTICAL TO THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEY RECEIVED. IT'S IDENTICAL.) • • • And there’s the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over. There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic. (NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR CONSPIRACY MINDED HEADS) And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust. I hope this settles this silly and rediculous nonsense for good. I will no longer waste my time replying to this foolishness. There are bigger issues facing the American people. Lloyd

It's pretty simple really. Those who care about the future of this country vote McCain. Those that care about themselves and Hate Bush and Hate the rich, Vote Obama.

I think that's a little insulting to those supporting McCain. Saying it is as if you are saying they don't care about people. It is as wrong to say as if someone said all Obama supporters are on welfare. Neither is true. Check your history World War I, II, Korean, and Viet Nam were all started or entered into under Democratic presidents.

Those who care about people, those who have compassion for others, will vote for Obama. Those who pretend greed is patriotic, and judging others is their duty, and loving war is the only way to support our troops, will vote for McCain.

I've learned not to get too excited over my candidate of choice's possibility of winning an election. The chances of them being just another politician are overwhelming.

I hope that works out for you, I have yet to see any president live up to expectations. Personally, whoever gets in, I'd like to see a bit of bipartisan work done. I'm concerned about a one sided Washington. I'd be concerned no matter who was in office. You know what they say about power corrupting.

I don't think that will be the case with Obama. I think he is going to remain the person we have seen throughout his campaign. The person his family has seen. And the person who has done much in his career to help those less fortunate. He is intelligent, competent, and full of integrity. I believe what you see is what you get.

I believe Mr. Buckley hit the nail right on the head. I couldn't have said it any better. John McCain is not up to the task. He has no plans to deal with the important issues facing the American people He's running a negative and dysfunctional campaign and the America people realize it. Lloyd

Hello savypat. There are many here doing there best to try and silence me, but I will continue to discuss this election cycle in an informed and educated way. They know that I'm very intolerant when it comes to all these rediculous conspiracy theorie they are promoting. Just last night my ratings dropped from 92 to 91 because some people can't refute my comments so they use the only resource they have to show their displeasure with me. What they fail to realize is that I've been through the ringer here at myLot and these cowardly acts don't affect what I discuss and reply to. Thanks for stopping by. Stay tuned. It's only going to get more intense. Your friend. Lloyd

Keep going Lloyd, I do enjoy talking to you.

Hi Annie. I just got in. Did anyone else jump ship today? lol I understand why Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan crossed over. Bush and Cheney knowingly misled him and caused him to lie to the American people. Here is the former Republican Governor's remarks: Former Republican Gov. Arne Carlson endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama on Thursday, saying "Obama represented the best hope for an America facing an economic crisis and criticizing Republicans for waging a mean-spirited campaign that has "been going down all these side roads." Speaking at the State Capitol, where he was introduced by U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., Carlson said his party had strayed from the moderate philosophies of past Republican leaders such as Ohio Sen. Robert Taft and President Dwight Eisenhower. "I consider myself a Republican maverick," Carlson said in explaining his endorsement of Obama. His statement says it all. Barack Obama is best qualified to lead our country. Lloyd

Rats, RINO's. What's the difference?

Hello Kerri. In my opinion, John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin has done damage to women who are qualified for such a position. It will make choosing another woman for this position an agonizing decision. Hopefully as time goes by, the choice of Sarah Palin will be just an afterthought and qualified women will once again be considered for Vice President and President of the United States of America. I believe that many Republicans are sending a strong message to their party by jumping ship and endorsing Barack Obama. They view their party leadership as dysfunctional. I'm sure they will study Barack Obama's brilliant Presidential campaign and apply some of his strategies. Lloyd

Yes it certainly has done more damage than anyone can imagine. What I believe they will do for those who will be studying Governance and Politics is to dissect where McCain and the Republic Party has go wrong and try to give them a good assessment so that they can reform. I must confess that I wasn't on Obama side because I was all for Hillary and when he didn't put her as Vice President I was shocked but Biden is a good guy and has proven himself worthy to be there beside Obama. I wish you all the best on election day because I know that you have work has hard as the candidates.

His reasons were even more eloquant that those of General Colin Powell. I believe "dear old dad" would be supporting Barack Obama also, while wondering what happened to the once repectable Republican party. I too can't wait to pull the lever for Barack Obama. It's time for a change. Lloyd

Once the election is over, I will continue to talk about the important issues facing the American people. I'll still focus on affordable healthcare for all Americans. I'll talk about providing middle-class Americans with tax relief. I'll continue to speak about ending the immoral and costly war in Iraq. Once the election is over, our work begins. I know we can turn our dismal situation around and I have faith in Barack Obama's ability to do just that. Lloyd