Obama may have bigger worries than skin heads.
By xfahctor
@xfahctor (14118)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
November 5, 2008 3:58pm CST
I think I have more than clearly stated I do not believe Obama to be a secretly practicing muslum. I know he is a christain and depsite the rantings of a few in here and on blog sites, it's pretty much accepted he is a christian.
However, that does not matter to radicl muslum clerics. In the law of islam practiced by these types, Obama simply being born to a muslum father, even a non practicing muslum father, makes Obama a born muslum in their eyes and a muslum for life. His beccomming christain is seen by them as him being an "apostate", the one of two kinds of apostates they refer to as a "murtad fitri", the worst type of apostate in their eyes.
Now that Obama is president elect, Al Qaeda's publicity wing, As-Sahab, could well begin inciting radical muslum clerics to use his muslum father's roots to argue that there is now an apostate running the war on terror, or in other words, an apostate fighting muslums.
And just what is the penelty for being an apostate? Just ask Magdi Allam an Egyptian who converted to Catholicism in Italy before the pope last year. Just ask the man who was sentenced in afganistan for just such a conversion. Death. It is very likely that a fatwa will be issued on Obama's head. Not that radical muslum leaders haven't called for the death of other U.S. government officials before, but this would be a call issued as punishment for the absloute highest crime one can commit in the world of radical muslum practioners and may warrent a more agressive attempt at it.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
5 Nov 08
I guess I never really thought of it. I'm sure that there are many different people that would like to kill him for many different reasons. All good leaders, more than just presidents end up dying in the end for the words they speak.
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@twallace (2675)
• United States
7 Nov 08
You could be right but I don't think that they would be the ones that would do anything to him. I think if something like that happened it would be from those right here on US soil. There are those that will try but will not succeed. In getting rid of Obama he was put there by a higher power and there he will stay. It's not for show that a black man was elected president.
So I know for sure that they can try but it will not happen. I even feel that he might be the one that will be able to calm things down in a way Bush could not. I guess that we all will have to wait and see what will and will not be. Have a good one.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I think his biggest problem is going to be the american people. They are pretty sick of what is going on with our ecomony. They have short attention spans and want instant graditification. I think in about 6 monts to one year after he is elected unless he has found a way to turn around the economy that they will turn on him hard.
My dad wondered why Obama did not wake up this morning and demand a recount. WHy? Because he is going to be in charge of country in two wars and in an ecomonic crisis. Not fun. It has the potiential of blowing up in his face if he can not get it solved quickly. Who in their right mind would want to clean up after Bush?
I think he had a point. But the president is an ego position. There are always plenty of people that want THAT ego trip. No matter what messes they may have to clean up.
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@greysfreak (1384)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I agree with you there, and actually--it kinda makes me see things a little differently! I am still proud that I voted for McCain, and I will be forever! I also think that he could have done good for our country. That being said, I'm pretty sure that at this point, any president has their work cut out for them! So actually, it may be a blessing for John McCain to have "lost", he really just won, in the way that he will not be held responsible for the way this is handled. And all of the 52% who support Obama now, well.. I wouldn't be surprised if that rating is whittled down to below Bush's approval rating before all is said and done. Don't get me wrong, I have never been and will never be a member of the George Bush fan club, but I am also not a subscriber to the BS accusations that McCain is anything like Bush. He is not, I mean seriously, a lot of Conservatives didn't want him because he was "too liberal", which is something that could never be said about Bush. And before someone throws in the bull about McCain voting with Bush most the time, well--yea, he kinda had to follow at least somewhat if he wanted to keep republicans with him, I don't think he would have even been able to get the nomination if he had gone against Bush *too* much. Hey.. at least he actually took a position, unlike Obama who voted present and is the most partisan.
I really do hope that I am wrong about him, but I'm not holding my breathe. I do hope that he can turn things around, but I think that anyone would be hard pressed to get us out of this mess, and people chose someone least qualified for this. I just hope that he picks some good advisers.
I am glad the campaign is over honestly, maybe now people can quit tearing down John McCain, he deserves nothing but respect, and I am still in shock that the exit polls showed that American's are delusional enough to think that McCain was harder on Obama than the other way around. Come on, even if you are an Obama fan you are in denial to think that McCain attacked anyone, and Obama was so rude--even flipping off both Hillary Clinton and John McCain the day before he won the elections. It just shows that he has no class.
All I know is, he made a lot of promises--and he can't possibly keep them all. So really, I don't think he really knows what he got himself into. I usually vote democrat, but after seeing the way all of this has gone down, I could not do it--and I can also see that if he does not follow through on his promises, it may be a bigger blow on the democratic party than that of Bush's tarnishing of the republican party.
At that I will just say, Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it, and What you see is not necessarily what you get!
@MysticTomatoes (1053)
• United States
5 Nov 08
He has written in both of his books that he's a Muslim and that 'if the winds change, I'll stand with the Muslims.'
That's a direct quote taken from his books. You can go read them or find copies of them online. He clearly states that he has nothing to do with the "white" half of his DNA and only sides with the black in him from his father.
How Americans can be so stuipd as to elect him is beyond me.
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@CherylsPearls (1269)
• United States
6 Nov 08
No, it's not the full quote. The full quote of that passage is:
[i]FULL QUOTE From Dreams From My Father:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261
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@MysticTomatoes (1053)
• United States
6 Nov 08
The whole point is that he's going to stand with Muslims if something happens, and not his own country. And we elected him leader of this country, and he's not even patriotic enough to put the American Flag on his plane nor wear a lapel pin like McCain and Palin did.
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@gwoman2 (710)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Kudos to you CherylsPearls...thank you for your post!
And you, MysticTomatoes: "How Americans can be so stupid as to elect him is beyond me" ??? That's not the only thing that is beyond you! I am not a "stupid" American, I am an informed individual and I voted for the best man...Don't assume that you know everything because you surely don't!
~G~
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
19 Nov 08
I hadn't thought of that xfahctor.. until reading today Al Zawahiri's statements and doing a little research concerning Malcolm X and how he was killed.. Sure is some dangerous times..
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
9 Nov 08
I really hope that you are mistaken on this issue. I hope that Muslims view Obama as a new era for America and their thorn relationships with Islam and terrorism. I hope that all the world hate stops. Religions are there to make us our life better not for the worst. I do believe that religion was never the real issue behind wars. NO God wants blood and terror. I really think that POWER is the true reason behind every war. © ronaldinu 2008
@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
7 Nov 08
This is very interesting. I had not realised this. I just dont understand why our own proven war hero, and dedicated man to our congress and the American people , who had more experience....shouldnt have been president.I think if anyone earned it , he did and I dont think it was fair he was compared to Bush. Mccain is his own man.To get back on your topic, I am very concerned that he said, if the wind changes, ill stand with the muslims....???????????????/
@evanslf (484)
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6 Nov 08
You may well be right but I don't think we should worry too much about the radical Muslim nutjobs. We are never going to change their views, they are fanatic and will call for the head of anyone that they perceive to be an enemy.
What we must do is isolate them by getting the majority of moderate muslims to split off from them, then these muslims radicals can rant alone in the darkness. Foreign policy over the next few years should be with this goal in mind - isolate the Bin Ladens of this world from the rest of the Muslim community, get ordinary Muslims to realise that these nutjobs are not their friends and should not be supported, then as these extremists lose support in Muslim countries, they will be hunted down and caught.
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