What is your opinion on this??
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
United States
November 20, 2008 7:30pm CST
i was watching tv (cant remember what news show it was but it was interviewing some guest star i had never heard of) but they said that they think that christians are not worried about the environment because they think the rapture is going to happen any day so why care?? while i think this makes religious people sound cruel and uncaring i DO know several christians that have flat out said they wont recycle because the rapture will happen before the earth gets bad off and that sinner can deal with the mess.. no joke..
so do you think its just 1 persons opinion blabbing on the news or that there is actually a problem with getting religious people to care or be more environmentally friendly? im hoping its just one person running his mouth but since i have heard of several people say that they dont care because of god then im wondering..
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@dhisaw (304)
• United States
21 Nov 08
For me I am a christian and believe in God. I dont think the same as those that you mentioned. I feel that we should recycle and take care of the planet and that kind of thing. God put those things on this planet and we should take care of it regardless of how soon the rapture is coming because no one actually knows when that will be anyways.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
i agree.. to me its a slap in gods face if you treat his creations like crap!
@JUNGLE (1157)
• South Africa
21 Nov 08
I am a Christian and yes I do believe in the rapture,but not in the way that many Christians believe it to take place.Many Bible prophecies have already come to pass but have done so in such a natural way that they have not even been noticed.The Bible speaks to us in a way that needs to be studied and given much thought to.God created an absolutely beautiful Earth and He wants the custodians of the Earth......thats us,to take care of it.All of it.So to say that we need not worry about the environment because the rapture is going to take place any day now is absolutely foolish.Dont Christians ever want to maintain a sense of sanity or at least sensibility in front of people of other faiths.? Or do they want to be the laughing stock of religion?
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
Dont Christians ever want to maintain a sense of sanity or at least sensibility in front of people of other faiths.? Or do they want to be the laughing stock of religion?
good question!!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
22 Nov 08
Well IMO if the rapture is going to happen I think it would be a plus point if God saw how much care we had shown in keeping his creation (our planet) healthy!
Just last week each of the homes in my town got a special recyle garbage can from the city and it does not take much to separate the recyle trash from the garbage.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
24 Nov 08
a lot of places dont have the separate bins for homes which is so annoying.. i live in metro which has free garbage pick up but no recycling thing unless i take it myself.. good thing its close by but its not like it would stop me if it didnt.. if they gave every one those bins it would help out a lot..
and yeah i agree that if god saw a nicely taken care of planet that it would be a plus for the people..
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
21 Nov 08
Okay, I am a little lost here. Kindly clear up some of my doubts before I can make a meaningful contribution to this discussion.
What is a rapture that the christians are referring to?
Is this rapture thing only restricted to one... erm... particular group of christians? Cos there are Methodists, Evangelist, Protestents... which group is observing this rapture? OR all of them do?
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
21 Nov 08
Hmm... if the rapture is the return of christ. And his followers, in this case, Christians, are saying, to hell with the world. If I follow god, I will be saved.
But god also preach love for all things, be it people, animal or plant.
And if there is no love for things like mother nature, do they still qualify to be saved?
It is interesting to see how some people react to religion. It is like, I can sin all my life. If I believe in god before I die and ask for forgiveness, then I will be forgiven and all my sins will be taken away!
Well, I think this is kinda hog wash, isn't it?
If that is the case, there will be no one in hell. Cos this little loophole will get every sinner forgiven as long as they pray to god and proclaim believes in Jesus and they will be saved. No punishment? No atonement? No cause and consequence?
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
the rapture that i have always heard about (from my upbringing) being a general thing where all christians (until they decide to argue on that lol) are beamed up to heaven when jesus comes back when the anti-christ comes out and the world starts going to hell/Armageddon.. since jesus is taking all the christians away in the beginning then only the sinners will be left to see the world be destroyed/end.. etc.. but im sure each type of christianity have a little different of a version..
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@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
21 Nov 08
HAHA darkjedi you are to funny. And to answer the question ahgong asked, the rapture is just the returning of Christ. Most groups think it will happen, but they also differ on the sequence of events that will bring it about.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
the rapture is when jesus is suppose to come back and take all the christians straight to heaven and leave all the sinners and non believers here to deal with the anti-christ and the worlds turmoil and suffering..
there are several versions of it and i think some groups are not teaching it as much anymore but it used to be like the thing that every one was obsessed with and still are..
@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
21 Nov 08
I had someone tell me something like that and at first i was too dumbstruck to answer. I also read someones blog who refuses to recycle because they don't see how one person can make a difference one way or the other. How i wish it was one person running there mouth like that, but i am afraid its not. It depresses me on how people don't seem to care how there actions effect the earth. As for the rapture happening any day now people wake christians have been saying that for hundreds of years. There is always going to be some sign someone is going to interpret that the end is near, but that is NO excuse to neglect your duties NOW. And yes one person can make a difference.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
darkjedi i pm'd it to you days ago and shawna i mean pheonixstar1982 i im'd it to you days ago haha
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
yeah i know it depresses the heck out of me too and well if you looked at that site i sent you and darkjedi jesus said a few times he was coming back within the people he knew's lifetime so that would be how many years ago?!?!? but i dunno some people really need to believe its gonna happen any day.. i think its a coping mechanism.. i know my parents seem to use it as that at least
@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
21 Nov 08
Okay i think i missed that link. Where did it go??
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
21 Nov 08
I think this is absolutely ridiculous, I have no idea what some a$$hole would even talk like that.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
yeah well he prob was one of the overly crazed environmentalist that think no one is doing enough.. i think we all need to be doing a lot but some people just think no one is doing anything.. and prob had some unresolved issues with religion and wanted his 15 minutes of fame on the news.. and well since we're talking about it i guess it worked
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
21 Nov 08
It's not what the catcholic church teaches. AS a christian I was taught to take care of the environment including its creations, because God created the universe for all the human beings, both that lived in the past and those who are going to live in the future. So it is our duty to take care of the environment.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
well growing up i was always taught that way in church but i have seen this attitude come out when everyone really started to push to save the environment.. so i dont know if it seems to have changed or just weird coincidences or what..
they are probably the same people that are trying their best to say that there is no global warming lol..
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
i havent seen him on anything since to where i would know his name so i guess it backfired
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
exactly.. or even better yet.. there is a rapture (i dont believe it but just for the sake of the thought) and its for a long time off so because of them not helping out the earth the earth gets so bad off that the population is low THEN the rapture hits!! they will have made themselves and everyone else miserable for years to have not gotten to see it for themselves
@Jimeous (858)
• New Zealand
21 Nov 08
It sounds like the person just doesn't feel the need to recycle and is using a religion as an excuse because saying that they are too lazy would put the blame on them.
It sounds like a diversion tactic, whether a person has religious beliefs or not doesn't really excuse them from having consideration for the enviroment. The tactic obviously worked considering that the show and guest star was forgotten.
It is true that many Christians are more interested in saving mankind's soul than the planet, however it does sound like some Christians are also hiding behind thier religion so they can sit lethargically.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
its amazing how many people use religion to hide behind for the weirdest and stupidest things.. they dont realize that that is why religion has a hard time as a whole since it happens so often people just assume the worst of it all the time etc..
@pau_79 (790)
• Philippines
21 Nov 08
wow-that sure sounds one irresponsible response
no one can predict when the rapture will come and thats not enough reason to just go on destroy our environment.
Some people just talk without thinking-thats the most lame if not worst reply someone can think of-maybe he will change his attitude when a disaster happens to him or close to his home
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
well the guest on the news was pro-save the environment so i guess he was ranting against people that dont and decided to start naming names/religions
@carmelsuarez (329)
• Philippines
21 Nov 08
Not all Christians really a follower of Jesus Christ. so e just called themselves Christians probably it satisfies them in anyway or they are just being misled by their leaders. But true Christians really care. They may not perfect but they try to do a righteous deeds and pray.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
yeah some people cant stand not having a title/label to tell them who they are
@Waynedragonfly (24)
• United States
22 Nov 08
well i think that everyone should care about the earth whether the rapture is coming today or next year because everyone should be responsible people even christians and that is my belieg
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
i would think it would be at least out of respect for god that they would take care of the planet..
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Nov 08
The media should not generalize that way, There sre SOME Christians who do indeed feel that way and for that reason, but those Christians hardly represent the majority. The problem with that small group is that they have the biggest mouths, and their preaching misrepresents the general population of Christians. I am a Christian and I care deeply about what happens to the environment.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Nov 08
its so irritating because the ones that give a group of people a bad wrap are the ones that are the loudest and know how to get their words out there and the people that disagree dont seem to try to argue differ.. if i was christian i would be writing the guy and chewing him out.. of course i would have needed to have been paying more attention at 5am news which i wasnt.. i just got disgusted (mostly because i know that he is right on a few people i know) and didnt take his name sigh..
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
21 Nov 08
The only people who lump Christians together like that are people with an anti-Christian agenda. Ironically, the far-left anti-Christian movement implements its own tenets, practices and morality codes, thus making it a religion.
The truth is that a lot of people, from all walks of life, don't care about the planet. I would argue that Christians, by and large, care more about the planet than some groups and individuals who don't equate themselves with any organized religion.
It seems pretty clear to me that while strides are taken to make environmental issues "newsworthy," nothing is being done by the same people to reverse the environmental trend. People, especially on the far-left of the political spectrum, love to fight for a cause until it receives national notoriety, then they're pleased enough to let it die out. It's almost as if some pick and choose issues just to attempt to spite the other side.
Most people who believe in the strong morals of religon, however, take a cause to their grave. For Christians who believe the environment is in trouble (not the zealots who believe Jesus is taking them to heaven via a moonbeam), they're dedicated to doing the right thing.
From my seat, I see a lot of neglect happening from every angle. A lot of people who protest and hug trees still drive SUVs and throw their McDonald's wrappers on the ground. A lot of religious people really don't care because they feel it's God's will. And some people with no stake in affiliation simply don't care one way or another. They're spoiled and complacement and positive that not only will earth always be as it is, but that their homes will always be safe, and nothing bad will ever happen. Every other person on the planet is undoubtedly in need of a wake-up call.
I find it shameful that some people play politics with the issue instead of doing something to help. With the time and energy it takes to bash someone for not helping, you could be helping extra hard -- that is, if it really matters to you as much as you claim.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
i am constantly doing a lot to help the environment and its not me saying that the one group doesnt.. i in fact said i think its unfair to group and think they all dont care.. i do know some that fit what the guy on the show said but i am not saying i agree..
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
24 Nov 08
oh ok no prob.. i was afraid i had presented myself incorrectly or something..
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
22 Nov 08
My comment is strictly generalizing some things I notice about certain groups of people and certain media figures. In no way was I implying that "you," in particular, agree with the Christian criticism, or that you don't do anything/enough for the environment.
I got the context of your convo starter -- I guess I'm a little too longwinded for my own good sometimes. Sorry for the confusion.
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@jhhayes777 (46)
• United States
21 Nov 08
Well christians do care about the envirnoment. I am a christian and I care about the envirnoment. I believe God made this planet and charged us to take care of it while we are here. It is just one person running their mouth just because he can. People say stupid or uneducated things all the time. I would not worry about it but God charge us to take care of teh planet and our bodies.
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