choosing between love and religion.

[b]If they care about their respective faiths, then they MUST take that into account. I'm Christian, & I'd never marry anything but a Christian. It's not just about "peer pressure," as some here have assumed. It's about a marrow-deep belief in how we see God, & the fact that He never said happiness was our goal. In fact, we're told to "take up our cross" (meaning e must bear those things which are painful to us, including, yes, even loneliness) & carry it. Christ Himself set the example of the ultimate sacrifice for one's faith. I would never dishonor Him, as I love Him. If I had to choose between following Him & being happy, it's a no-brainer. That...is the bottom line to this. Maggiepie[/b]

Maggiepie: You've quoted me, you've disagreed with me and you've been VERY polite about it, even though my post wasn't as polite to religion in general. For that, I'll have to say thank you, and I'll say I absolutely respect your opinion. I'm pretty sure we're both grown ups and we can get along just fine even if we disagree. Having said that, let me retort to your post. The case in this discussion is about peer pressure. The guy never doubted his faith or his love for this woman, he's doubting whether to marry her or not because his parents would be against it. So you see, he's making his choice based on what his peers might think, not about what God might say. Second part of my retort, and this is the most interesting part I think. You talk about self-sacrifice, life not being about making oneself happy and whatnot. I grew up a catholic so I know where you're coming from, but I do have to ask this question: If this guy chose to marry the girl, he would probably have his whole family turning their back at him. Right? So, wouldn't this act of love, of giving himself to another person while in turn losing everything else be a cross big enough to carry? (I am aware the guy in question is a Muslim, I'm just looking at the bigger picture and using a Christian example because you're Christian) Am I that far fetched here?. Do you think that once their judgment day comes God will look upon them and say "You two disappoint me, you chose to love each other" instead of saying "You two proved I made the right choice when I created men, you proved you can love and care for each other unconditionally" Trust me Maggie, I'm not mocking your beliefs here and I think I made a very honest and down to earth question. I hope you can see that and answer me, the worst it can happen would be to agree to disagree. Rich

if his religion is more important to him, then he didn't love her enough to begin with [b]I disagree. One can earnestly love someone, yet be unable to marry them for a multitude of sensible reasons. If God means nothing to you (& He means EVERYTHING to me!), then by all means, marry anyone you like. But Christians, & I'm sure Muslims, too, believe that where your true treasure is, there your heart will be also, as it says in our Bible. My heart is with God, first, & everything else comes a distant second, no matter how much I love someone. And I tell you this as someone who has fallen deeply in love, yet couldn't marry whom I wished to marry, for religious reasons. Maggiepie[/b]

i believe you are right_if you love the person then go, no matter what is his religion as long as you love and believe in one God or Allah.

When making this decision, this couple needs to take a long hard look at what 'could' happen should they marry. If either of their families will not accept the mate, that will cause major problems, over the years - especially when children come into the picture. This is just one reason why I am FOR God - but against religion. All religion is about is who is in control with the emotional blackmail, to keep one from living life. You can have a "relationship" with God without being in any particular religion. I found that out many years ago, and while I do go to a fellowship of believers (as I like to call it) - I am not a member. I hope that if this young couple are truely in love, things get worked out for them - - but their 'religions' could derail the whole thing if either or both of the parents are very committed to their respective religions. And - bringing children up in a divided religious home, can also set up a new set of problems as well.

Hi ClassyCat- You are indeed a classy lady.the reason I write to you is that you got at the point where gave up dialogue with Gnosisquest on the topic of What is the best religion. Imagine that I lived in a family where my mother was like you and my father was like Gnosisquest.You are both right because I put a lot of though in both attitudes.The only difference is that your approach puts you a little more at risk. God will guide and love you but will not spare you of sorrows. Gnosisquest built something according to his book "the secrets of Universe" that I try to finish and defends his brainchild fiercly.After all a man has a different spiritual mould and he has his valid points too. I feel that is good to be informed about Islam at the level of historical process and less at what the Koran(or whatever name is) After all that best judgement you pass is by somweone deeds which you can find in history.Spare you time on getting to deep into this religion.Kindly regards.

[b]"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.'" You're a wise man, sir. Rare, too, judging by this thread! Maggiepie[/b]

right, Allah do allow our muslims to marry someone who is christian.

Islam does allow a Muslim to marry a Christian or a Jew

of coz my religion

Look i dont think there needs to be a sacrifice. My girlfriends a christian. I'm a hindu. When i told my parents, all they said was it was ok as long as we are happy. You can always try talking to parents. After all all they seek is our {their kids} happiness.

u are welcome, my friend! please feel free to PM me whenever u have anything to say...

I agree with you.You can still marry even if you have different religions.Well,maybe it depends on the religion.Bottomline is only you can make the choice.

hi, i really like how you and your husband handle the situation. thanks for the nice response.

if you where in their place would you sacrifice your religion and change?