Do they expect that poor people should eat unhealthy
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
December 16, 2008 3:29pm CST
Our Women's Society have got together and made two hampers for two of the poorer families of our church. Now before this, we got a sheet from the city about what usually goes into such hampers and it was fill of the macaroni and cheese, canned beans, chips, etc. and except for the powdered milk, much of that stuff had a long shelf life and little nutritional value - oh it did have some detergent so for myself I put together some dried beans, and some homemade cookies. And one of the other ladies donated some of those fresh vegetable packages -something that was not on the recommended city hamper list.
So why is it that when putting a hamper for poor people, they do not recommend things like a head of lettuce, fresh vegetables, coupons for fruit, etc.? I mean the reason some people are poor is because they cannot afford good food. Opinions please?
7 people like this
32 responses
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Dec 08
Maybe it is just so that if they have the basics they can use what cash or food stamps they have on something more tasty.
3 people like this
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
17 Dec 08
i have had to go to food banks at times when things were tough and the food is not nutritious or good for you for the most part. with that said though they have to have foods that will not perish quickly and some do not have the means to refrigerate food so canned and boxed foods are really the only options. i was always grateful for whatever we got but if nutrition is the top priority food banks and food drives are not the place to get it.
2 people like this
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
20 Dec 08
I would think that dried milk, dried beans or canned vegetables and stew meat would be that helpful. But packages of macaroni and cheese do not do that any good. And maybe vouchers for the local grocers would be better and then they can buy their own healthy food.
@DCMerkle (1281)
• United States
17 Dec 08
The only time that poorer families will see meat in the baskets or hampers is around the holidays and that's a shame. If they need food any other time through the year it is usually things that we are told not to eat. How can a poorer family turn it down if that may be the only thing that they will get to eat? They are stuck being thankful. How could they turn it down. I'm not saying that this is right, but what option do they have?
Years ago, the local social services here in Maryland was disgusted themselves in what they had to give out to the families in need. There was nothing but oatmeal, powdered milk, beans, elbow macaroni, a can of tuna, and a few canned vegetables. They invited the local officials to dinner. Needless to say the officials pretended that they were disgusted and shocked. They increased the budget for the food pantries so more items could be added. That lasted a few years until the budget was cut and the pantries were one of the first to get the ax.
I know that the food pantry where I live has gift cards that they give to their patrons to take to the local grocery store and they can buy the fresh or cold items that they may need. It would take the simple act of common sense for people to ask themselves if is that enough for a family of 4 to survive off of for even 2 days? Lots of pantries that are privately run will give out a lot of canned goods to help stock the shelves, but still I've seen some pretty meager bags go out of there.
DCMerkle
2 people like this
@sun2day (1062)
• Virgin Islands (U.S.)
16 Dec 08
It shows that the city was thinking of the poor and has decicided what they would like to see go into those hampers. On the other hand since there is a Women"s Society of your church and they know two of the less fortunate families of their church it was extremely considerate of them to gather two hampers for that family. It seemed like the city hamper was just for the basic food stuffs.
You may want to make some recommendations to the Women"s Society of your church when you all are doing this; e.g you may want to recommend food like vegetables and other nutritrious foods.
Not because they are poor- they also need to eat healthy. Great job! Congratulations to Your WQomen"s Society.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 Dec 08
The trouble is that one of the women who needs the hamper is diabetic, and all that starchy food is not that good.
1 person likes this
@sudalunts (5523)
• United States
17 Dec 08
I see exactly what you are saying. Actually, I received a food basket from my church last week. I am very grateful for what was given to me. Luckily, I do not have any issues at the time, that would be affected by eating too many starches. My basket, consisted of pastas, and canned vegetables and soup, I did receive a turkey and a bag of potatoes. The next day, I was given another basket, which had apples and oranges and eggs etc.
Bless you for what you are doing for the less fortunates.
2 people like this
@suzzy3 (8341)
•
16 Dec 08
It goes back to the point that poor people should be grateful and be glad to receive anything,it is a sorry state of affairs when these hampers should not be filled with vouchers for fruit and veg anice joint of meat some tinned fruit and cream ,and some sweets for the kids ,things they can not afford under normal circumstances.It is really nice that you and your womens society do the hampers,I think it is a lovely idea but maybe you should throw the list away and make your own,It would certainly improve the health of these people and make them feel better.
2 people like this
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
4 Jan 09
I put in a package of dried beans and some cookies. But I do think a voucher for fresh food and vegetables would have been nice. Although one of the ladies did put in some cabbage and one some apples and oranges.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
16 Dec 08
I think you should throw away the lists and make up your own hampers. It is disgusting to think that poor people only want to eat poor food like mac and cheese and potato chips. It was really nice of you to put in some home baking. I would also include the fixings and a nicely typed recipe to make baked beans from scratch with the dried beans. A nice little ham is not so expensive and keeps well, a package of lentils or yellow peas to make ham and pea soup, again with the recipe enclosed because many of the younger people don't know how to cook from scratch. Fresh vegetables in season, a small cabbage, a turnip, some carrots and parsnips and the coupons for fresh fruit are a wonderful idea. Keep up the good work ladies.
2 people like this
@riyasam (16556)
• India
17 Dec 08
Poverty is the deprivation of common necessities such as food, clothing, shelter and safe drinking water, all of which determine our quality of life. It may also include the lack of access to opportunities such as education and employment which aid the escape from poverty and/or allow one to enjoy the respect of fellow citizen.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Dec 08
I have no idea but to me they should get food that would be good for them.
Dried beans are good and go along way. and I would put in what I wanted that would do them good and wouldnt go by what some rich people put together for the poor. cna fruit is good toand last soem time.
2 people like this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
20 Feb 09
It does seem that way. The better you try to eat the more expensive it is. The basket idea you guys do is really great and I bet those families really appreciate them. Keep up the good work.
[b]**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~[/b]
1 person likes this
@nancyrowina (3850)
•
17 Dec 08
In England every year schools and church's do something called "The Harvest festival", it's the same as Thanks Giving really but we don't have a big family meal there's just a church service. They used to ask to bring in food for donating to the needy, my school gave it all to a local old peoples home.
The donations were always old tins from the back of the cupboard usually something useless except as a dessert like tinned peaches or fruit cocktail or something. I think the people donating just didn't know how long the food would sit around before it was given to anyone so they didn't want to donate fresh items in case they were wasted. That's probably the reason the city don't recommend it too in case someone gets something past it's sell by date and it gives them food poisoning so they end up getting sued. It is a shame as what people end up with is a load of items they couldn't even make one meal out of just a load of snacks really.
1 person likes this
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
20 Dec 08
That sounds like something like what went on on Whitsunday. Most of the food items were canned goods and not that good.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
17 Dec 08
Yes, poor people are expected to eat unhealthy. Do you know why? Because there is a group of very powerful people in the world who are trying to wipe out the poor people and they do that by keeping things that will keep them healthy out of reach.
@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
16 Dec 08
Unless you are handing stuff out immediately, they usually recommend things with a long shelf life. Pasta, peanut butter, beans, canned veggies, soups, canned tomatoes, canned fruit are all nutritious food. Perishables are rarely accepted at food pantries either unless they are brought in on pick up day.
2 people like this
@myskina (182)
• China
17 Dec 08
sometimes maybe have the trade promotion and some cheap commodities in the market , there also can be very good , just sometimes can not met , so choose a better time to go shopping it will get more
no matter the poor or the rich , thet also can enjoy life , also can have very healthy living ``
2 people like this
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
14 Jan 09
I don't know why they don't but I figure that the reason they don't hand it out themselves is because they the food banks don't have the refrigeration storage maybe and since things don't have long life they find it a waste. I feel that it would be good that if they could get a gift card from the store so they would be able to purchase the fresher items they need but I doubt they get enough donations for that.Alot of the grocery stores have gift cards you can get for items in their store.
1 person likes this
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
4 Jan 09
I guess they feel that items included should have a long shelf life so in case they need to stretch their food and make it last awhile it won't go bad quickly and can provide them with food for awhile. I know it's not ideal but sometimes those families need items that last a long time so they can make sure that they do have a little something to eat each day.
1 person likes this
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
20 Dec 08
Perishable foods are not recommended because not all families have refrigeration, and those foods would spoil. There are many foods which are high in nutritional value, but will stay on the shelf for long periods. Canned fish, pork and beans, chicken soup, peanut butter,chili with beans, are all easy to store and quite nutritious. Dried beans, cooking oil, dish detergent, and powdered milk all have their place in a kitchen. Leave out the junk food such as pop and chips, sugared cereal and other prepared foods such as powdered mashed potatos, minute rice, and instant puddings - these are precooked and have lost much of their food value in the preparation. Poor people need to be educated in nutrition and food preparation. A little good food goes a long way if the cook is a nutritionist.
1 person likes this
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
21 Dec 08
If the hamper will be used within three days, then I can't see why fresh things wouldn't be in it,esp if it can be delivered to some place with a fridge. But when they ask us to donate to the poor, they ask us to put it into a bin that is collected at the stores 2xs a week, so it's sitting in the store at least 3 or 4 days and they want cereal, peanut butter, dried milk, canned veggies, canned fruit, etc. But when I worked at a Farmer's Market, they would take fresh food if delivered to them at the end of the market so they could pop it into the refrigerator right away.
1 person likes this
@WATARIKENJI (1534)
• Philippines
4 Jan 09
You got it, shelf life. It's customary that goods with longer shelf life are given because its uncertain who will receive the food and if it would be cooked immediately if fresh produce are on the list. Happy New Year.
@ashwin565 (6)
• India
17 Dec 08
As i donot accept that poor people should eat unhealthy food where as rich people should eat healthiest and costly food.because here poor people cannot afford costly food,but they mainly respond to the healthy food in case if they dont have money also they try to ddo some work and get money.With that money they enjoy themselves.While in festival season they wont listen to anyone...they enjoy themselves as they a rich person cannot do..
1 person likes this
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Dec 08
It is up to those who have money (I am not saying us because I know that some of you are struggling hand to mouth and I and my husband are on pension and I can only donate once a year to our church's hamper baskets) to make sure these poor people have some healthy food, even if it is a can of fruit with light syrup or no sugar or a package of rolled oats, or healthy grain, or a head of lettuce. Because it could be that one of the reasons they cannot work is because they are too sick from the starchy food they are eating.