Postman mauled by rottweilers as he delivers Christmas cards

@owlwings (43910)
Cambridge, England
December 23, 2008 8:28am CST
A postman was attacked in Cambridge, yesterday morning near a detached house in a quiet, suburban street. His life may have been saved by a bricklayer, who tried to beat the dogs off with an iron bar before running one of them over in his van. A police spokeswoman said the injuries sustained by the postman were “horrific” and that his arm was ripped by the powerful dogs. “He was very seriously injured and will be fearful about the use of his arm,” she said. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5389038.ece The street in question is not far from where I live. It is a small close and possibly a private drive with several houses off it. In that case, the dogs' owners would not be able to be charged under the Dangerous Dogs Act. Nevertheless, don't you think that any authorised delivery person should be protected by law? Especially at this time of year, our postal staff work exceedingly hard. Nobody should be allowed to own animals as dangerous as this and have them roaming free, whether it is on their own property or not! What do you think? Do you own a dangerous animal and could you really justify it being allowed to be a danger to visitors - expected or otherwise?
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@VKXY62 (1605)
• Australia
23 Dec 08
I think that if someones animals cause injury to someone going about there normal duties, the animal and owner should be prosecuted, could have killed him or what if some kids wandered in?
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
24 Dec 08
I agree that it is very much the owners' responsibility. In their favour, it has to be said that they had the dogs destroyed immediately they returned and knew about it. I am sure that the law will do what it can but, unfortunately, the law may not always be sufficient, especially if one can employ a good defence lawyer (as I'm certain these people can).
• India
24 Dec 08
My God! This is horrible! Of course, the owners ought to be punished severely. I have two dogs, and I am of the opinion, that a dog learns from his owners. I wonder if they were feeding these animals properly. I really feel for that poor postman. This reminds of another case where a kid was mauled by stray dogs in Bangalore. Nopes, I don't own dangerous animals. My dogs are quite harmless, and I would never let them attack the postman, who is a nice person. Cheers and happy Mylotting
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@nannacroc (4049)
23 Dec 08
Both these dogs and the owners derserve to be put down. It shouldn't matter where the dogs are if they are a danger to anyone then the owner should be responsible for keepng others safe. This sort of thing makes me really angry as it's the owners that make the dogs behave the way they do. The owner should be banned from keeping animals. I think all prospective owners should be forced to learn how to care for animals before they are allowed to buy them.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
24 Dec 08
I agree with iZoran on many points. Dogs are very far from being wild animals. They are animals, however, and not human. They are very much reasoning beings, though the parameters and outcome of their reasoning is very different from ours. Rottweilers, like many dogs which were bred for cattle and sheep herding, tend to be very territorial and loyal to one person. They perceive their owner as their master and the 'things' of their owner - including family and children - as things to be protected. If you take a well kept Rotty to the park and let him run free, he will almost certainly be one of the gentlest and most 'well-behaved' of dogs there. He will not spontaneously attack other people or dogs because he is not on his own territory. He may, though, be quite a different dog when he is on what he perceives as his own ground or when his own personal reasoning tells him that his owner or his owner's property is under threat. Rottweilers were originally bred as cattle dogs (and were also used as war dogs). They are an intelligent breed and, being strong, are often used as police and guard dogs. Perhaps some of their unpredictability can be attributed to the fact that the breed declined until the early 20th Century and so there may have been a good deal of inbreeding involved in bringing it to its current popularity. The breed has received a good deal of not entirely unwarranted negative publicity. It is the second named breed most implicated in fatal human attacks in the US between 1979 and 1998 ( http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf ). The first named breed is the Pitbull type, which is banned in Britain. Although I agree that a Rottweiler's behaviour is, to a large extent, determined by its upbringing, I feel (as many do) that it is not a very reliable breed and that the Dangerous Dogs Act ought to make some recognition of the fact - not, perhaps, by banning it but, at least, by restricting or licensing its ownership.
23 Dec 08
Wrong! They're animals first and foremost. Dogs need no input or influence from humans to make them do this. Certain breeds are worse than others, of course, but as a general rule they are still wild animals and it is an instinct of theirs to behave defensively. If there is a perceived threat, they will do their best to eradicate the threat. They evidently saw the postman as a threat and sadly dogs do not having the ability to reason in the way that humans do. They're wild animals, never forget that.
@iZoran (111)
• Serbia And Montenegro
24 Dec 08
I totally disagree with the statement above me. Firstly dogs are not wild animals, they are domestic animals. Secondly, despite the bad publicity that rottweillers get, they are naturally one of the best behaved dogs I have ever encountered. They have an inbuilt sense to be good. If a rottweiller has a good owner, you'll see a good rottweiller. They are strong dogs and they have an incredible bite, even in play a little nip feels like a hammer has hit you. Buty they generally do not have any interest in humans aside from their owners. I regularly walk my friends rottweiller and take him off the lead when we get to the park. He will wander around doing his own thing completely uninterested in humans around him. All the kids love him, play with him, pull him around, do what they like with him, and he does nothing. I checked on the internet about rottweillers, and his behaviour is apparrently typical. Leaving the blame strictly with the owners or the way he was raised.
@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
24 Dec 08
My Middle Son and younger daughter have Rotts and they are sweet and gentle..it has alot involved in how the animal is raised and the treatment they get, not that i would let them run free, but they are around people all the time and are like babies..its there strength that shouldn't be fulled with so we keep them in doors or behind a fence since some people are scared of big dogs.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
24 Dec 08
I agree that Rotties are very intelligent dogs and can be gentle when they perceive no threat. I would never trust them to be gentle in all circumstances, however.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
23 Dec 08
This is a horrific story and no one should be allowed to let such dangerous dogs roam freely. They should be charged and the postman should receive comoensation form the owners. And what is more that animal should be put down. wwho is more impoortant ? A human being or a dog? This is so very wrong. That poor man is going to lose the strngth of an arm. He may have lost his life if the bricklayer had not come to his rescue. I don't care that the dog was on the owner's property, the owner should pay all expenses and put the dog down. a child would not have lasted any time with a dog like that. Blessings
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
24 Dec 08
I agree with you totally. Blessings
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
24 Dec 08
No one should be required to put their life in danger to perform a service for us. If we insist that it is our right to keep dangerous dogs or other animals and to allow them to run free on our property then we should be required to post our property and not expect delivery of anything even the mail. You can't really have it both ways. If you don't want anyone on your property and you intend to protect it with dogs then you can't have deliveries either. Just go to town and get all your stuff yourself. But since the postman there was apparently required to make deliveries to this house the home owner should be liable for the damage his dogs did.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
24 Dec 08
I don't know the specific circumstances of this case, of course. It may be that the dogs were normally kept secure but had, unfortunately, got out and were roaming free in their own territory. It may be that the owners customarily let them roam free in their garden. The property is in a suburban area and its garden adjoins other properties. It is not like a ranch or a farm with no other houses nearby. I sincerely hope that the owners experience the full force of the law though I'm afraid that it will be up to the postman (no doubt with the backing of his Union) to seek compensation.
@dorypanda (1601)
23 Dec 08
I honestly don't see why anyone has to have a dangerous dog, there are plenty of non-dangerous dogs to chose from. I believe that everyone has the right to walk through the streets (and even in a close) without being mawled. I do think that postal staff and other delivery staff should automatically be legally protected from personal attacks by animals or humans. I believe that the law in this case has let the poor man down. I hope he gets better soon and can use his arm again.
@pumpkinjam (8767)
• United Kingdom
24 Dec 08
Posties do have the right to refuse to deliver to places for good reasons and dangerous dogs are an acceptable reason. However, dogs shouldn't be allowed to roam free. While I was doing a paper round, there were a couple of houses which I wouldn't always deliver to because of dogs. Perhaps they weren't dangerous but I didn't know that. I think they were old cocker spaniels or something so I suppose they would have been ok! But rottweilers, surely everybody knows that they are dangerous. Postmen are only doing their job. I can well understand using such dogs as guard dogs overnight or something but they should be kept where it is safe for postmen to deliver. It really annoys me when dog owners think that they and their dogs can do whatever they want. I wonder if the owners of those dogs thought they wouldn't hurt anyone. Dogs obviously need to be able to roam about a bit but I think that if you don't have the space for them to roam about without posing a risk to someone else then you shouldn't have them at all.
@Shar19 (8231)
• United States
23 Dec 08
That's a terrible thing to have happened. I know that Rottweilers can be nasty dogs but I think it's mostly the way the owners are raising them. Unfortunately there are a lot of bad people out there raising them the wrong way. Yes, any dog should be in a fenced in yard and not roaming free without a leash and their owner. People need to take responsibility for their pets.
@maxilimian (3099)
• Indonesia
25 Dec 08
It's really a bad news, i wonder why dogs really like to attack a postman? It's like a bad habit with dog chasing a helpful mr.postman, really a sad news, especially it happens on this holiday
• United States
23 Dec 08
This a terrible and tragic story. There is no excuse for what happened to that poor man but in the owners' defense the article did state that they left immediately to have the dogs destroyed, they obviously see the severity of what their animals did. I feel that a person should be able to own any pet that is legal in their community - obviously owning some types of monkeys or wild animals is prohibited but dogs (most breeds) are accepted, but owning an animal that has a tendency of being violent also means that said owner must take that into account and assure that the dog is properly trained and restricted from free roaming. It is terrible that this happened and if permanent damage was caused I feel that the owners should be held responsible for that financially, but from the sounds of it they took corrective action and should not be prosecuted criminally.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
24 Dec 08
Whether or not they will be prosecuted depends on the interpretation of the case under the Dangerous Dogs Act. If the dogs were in a public place - that is, a place to which members of the public have right of access from time to time, then the owners will be prosecuted. The fact that they did immediately have the dogs destroyed may be some mitigation. I gather that the maximum sentence would be a £500 ($1000) fine and six months imprisonment. I imagine that these people would get off with a fine only. Since the house is said to be worth £1.3 million, I suspect that they will be able to hire a good lawyer! Compensation for the postman is another matter, of course. That will be for a civil court to decide.
• United States
24 Dec 08
This is very sad. This is yet another reason why I don't like or trust dogs. I hope this man recovers well.