$200 higher ELECTRIC BILLS: Durn AL GORE TO HECK!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
January 2, 2009 6:54pm CST
Yes, it is true.
According to the monthly newsletter I get from my Rural Electric C0-OP every month, our electric bills could go as high as $200 per month higher! Why? Carbon legislation expected to be formulated and debated starting now and passed in 2010. What to do? Start off by going here.
http://www.ourenergy.coop/
Follow the links, get more information, use GOOGLE to research the topic even more. Be sure to visit the link on how to contact your legislator.
I say we are about to learn what the MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM is really all about. Taking money from you! It is all a lie!
What do you say?
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11 responses
@laglen (19759)
• United States
3 Jan 09
I knew it was coming and it will only get worse! This is just another way to tax us. This will not get better. The funny thing is....... Global warming is theory! Thats right, nothing proven. I would love to see the proof that an extra $200 per month will save the planet. Gore is just another wack job!!!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Jan 09
Indeed, Gore is a phoney besides being flat out wrong. I've even run the data analysis. Gore is not even close to being right.
More and more scientists are having the courage to speak out about it. Here's hoping the power of the internet with its ability for us everyday folks to comunicate quickly, gives us the edge we need to defeat the upcoming legislation that will bankrupt us without saving anything.
@codemonkey (90)
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3 Jan 09
Red, you say you've run the data analysis yourself. Please enlighten me :)
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
I do experimental research in data analysis. Using that knowledge I got the figures for the earth's temperture and sea levels from a respected international source (Hadley Meterological Center UK). Then I did a synthesis and extrapolation on the data. I can not explain the methodology here. It is proprietary to me and beyond what would be reasonable to explain here. Here's my conclusion.
A reasonable estimate for average temp change of the earth over the next 100 years is about 1/2 degree, maybe 1 degree but very unlikely. The sea level is likely to rise 1 or 2 inches, maybe. This is not catestrophic. It is a part of the normal cycle one would expect since the earth left an ice age about 12000 years ago and the glaciers are still retreating from that ice age. We are slightly warming. It is not man made. It is normal. The same will happen with the climate no matter what we do. You'd be very surprised how many scientists actually agree with me.
You can see examples of my research applied to the stock market at my web page. You can get there thru my profile page. Long term climate change seems to be easier to predict than stocks.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
3 Jan 09
I agree, and anyone who believes this crap probably voted for the 0bamunist.
That makes them all the worst person in the world and worse than Hitler.
They think that somehow they are not going to be hit by the escalating prices caused this scam?
If so, then they are every bit as ignorant and stupid as I think they are...
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Well, wait until the higher prices for energy and probably everything else hit home. 0bama could beat Bush's record low approval ratings.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Perhaps, you and I will have to do what my dad did for a few years. Quit watching or reading about politics and concentrate on his own life. I'm sure I could not give up politics forever, but a vacation from it could be in order soon.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
30 Apr 09
Global Warming, the convenient untruth..
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 May 09
I could not say that any better. Many scientists are finally speaking out.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Personally, I think this is being exaggerated. Just like a lot of other things out there; special interests will say anything and twist or hide facts to get you and me to do what they want us to do (in this case they want us to influence our legislators). If there is an increase in electrical rates due to the POSSIBLE legislation you are talking about (none of it has been passed or voted on yet); I would expect it to be an increase of 7% - 14% of our current rates - not a flat $200 per electric user.
If it does come about, I know you have plenty of land, you could put in solar or wind and go "off the grid" or even start selling electric back to your local coop; and, you could probably receive money from the government to finance the installation and operation.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Definitely, going off grid is an option for me. I still don't like what is being done to the country.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Right now, I think a lot of it is just fear and conjecture. No one really knows what is going to happen with this President and his new administration. Obama was promising everything and anything to get himself elected; but, he is already breaking a lot of his promises and he isn't even in office yet. So, we have no idea which ones he will keep and which ones he will break or just ignore.
I do not feel the next 4 years are going to be good for the US; but, a lot of that is the fault of Bush and his administration. For now, we just need to wait and see what does happen and deal with it as things come up. Until a bill is actually introduced, there is no sense in starting off protests. In fact, protesting something draws the legislators attention to the topic; even if they weren't thinking about it before. That could actually initiate the very changes we do not want to see.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
3 Jan 09
Hi Red,
Is it time for people to invest in micro power generators such as windmills and solar. In Europe they have been doing it for years.
Aside from the obvious i.e. eliminate energy waste.
Here is a link to some possibilities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0MRzar88o
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
I live in an area where this is feasible. My location is so remote there are no building or zoning codes. I can put up windmill towers, solar panels of all kinds, and whatever else I want without restriction. I'm giving it serious thought.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
5 May 09
A bit of good news on this front. Many liberal congresspeople are turning against Obama's plan on the carbon legislation because they are unwilling to offend their constituents' pocketbooks now that elections are approaching in 2010. If the American people are smart they will give Congress a good overhaul by electing people who won't support the carbon legislation after elections are over.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
5 May 09
I sure agree about voting a bunch of the current crop of congress out of office.
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@VKXY62 (1605)
• Australia
3 Jan 09
Ha, I saw this crap coming, Carbon Credit BS.
Hey Red, most of em are still lapping it up,
AND, dragging everyone else they can convince onto the band wagon, just like a religion.
Can you see what they are changing, the brainwashing is done the same way, they are now programming us to be zombie bankrollers for them.
They are making you pay for the air you are breathing.
It wasn't all that long ago, the companies started talking about who pays what and how they can carry out their bizo based on the possiblity of this theory being correct. Now they are passing on their (Peter robbing Paul) costs to the rest of us.
Pwaaaa, pretty cheeky.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Yes, but we voters are not giving the politicans any reason to think they won't get away with it.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
3 Jan 09
Ouch! Similar trends are popping up in Europe too RYBD. It's ridiculous really. It's a case of "we taketh and we taketh away more" when you think about it. Governments should be monitoring and/or subsidizing as much of these types of things as they can to stimulate consumer spending, NOT hitting people even harder in the back pocket! Reducing emissions should definitely be the goal of all countries, but not at the expense of consumers like this. Who allowed things to get to a stage that required fixing in the first place anyways?? It sure as hell wasn't "Joe Consumer"! Happy New Year mate.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Happy New Year to you too!
Americans are slow to awaken but get a lot done once they wake up. That time is coming.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
9 Jan 09
I don't know alot about the whole global warming thing except Hubby says it's a crock. I did read though that 0bama's plans for making us use less is to raise the prices so high that your forced to use less. It worked with the gasoline prices...the higher it went the less ppl drove. The same can be done with electric, propane, natural gas, gasoline, and even food. It's a way to control things.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
9 Jan 09
Yes, that is the game the government folks have in mind for us. Higher prices for the goods we need and higher taxes too.
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
3 Jan 09
This is ridiculous! There are already so many people unable to pay their electric bills. My daughter's bill has been almost $400 the last 3 months! That is terrible. She's a single Mom of 4 kids and they have a rough time of it. I can't understand why they would let them up the price again, considering how the economy is and how people have been hit with loss of jobs. I went to the page and sent an email to our representatives. Don't know how it will help, but, at least, I did my little bit. And, there is NO Global warming! I think Al Gore needs to share his riches with the rest of us!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Let's save the EARTH by taxing consumer's more! That's the ticket! Politicians really do think we are stupid.
@kareng (59137)
• United States
3 Jan 09
I agree. Mine was over $350 last month and we aren't even at home during week during work hours. I would hate to see the bill if we were! Plus the coldest months are ahead of us, January and February!
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
4 Jan 09
We have a total electric house and ours was $192 which was smaller than last year. But we aren't keeping our heat up and we also use gas logs in the fireplace at times, which helps on the light bill, but uses lots of gas. My house is the same size of our daughter's, but she has 4 kids going in and out all the time - to work, practice, school, just outside, etc. It is just me and my husband here and we don't fan the doors all the time like kids do.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
21 Oct 09
I would be interestd in your opinions on this discussion:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2161299.aspx