Those who deny Jesus will reach hell? This you call consequenses?
By Frederick42
@Frederick42 (2024)
Canada
January 21, 2009 6:49am CST
All right- those deny the Lord Jesus will reach hell. Of course, he is not the one who sends me there. I myself send myself there, because I had the audacity to deny his divinity. it is just a matter of consequence.
But what about all those who have never heard of him? Well, somebody said they would not reach hell since they never heard of him. God is just and fair, so the tragedy is for those who have heard about Jesus and then dare to deny him, turn their backs on him.
But consequences do not work this way. If an old man places his hand in fire, it will get burnt. If a child does it, it will get burnt. If a man before the coming of Christ placed his hand in fire, it woul dget burnt and if a man after Chrsit placed his hand in fire, then also it would get burnt. The fire will not say that after all it is a child- poor thign, it does not know that fire will burn him. No, consequences are consequences. It is cause and effect.
From the above logic, I can come to the conclusion that going to hell is not a matter of consequence, but it is just that jesus cannot tolerate anybody who denies him and he will send him to hell. Of course, I do not believe in hell, but there are those who believe.
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@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
21 Jan 09
Frederick42, long time back a Missonary was preaching in front of a Hindu Temple, and his contention was Sinners Repent, convert yourself into a Christian, , I started to argue with him about this and asked him the very same question, whether just by converting to Christianity, will I reach heaven, he was not able to answer me, and instead he started abusing me, and calling me a Communalist. ( It was the Missoniary who was preaching in front of a temple, and he was calling me a communalist). To cut a long story short, after shouting and abusing me, they went away from that place, I am yet to get an answer from any of my Christian friends about this. I do not think Mr.Gandhi, who is a Hindu, is in hell, only because he is a Hindu.
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@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
21 Jan 09
Good for you, but I like to remain poor and in the religion I was born, and not becoming rich by converting myself into another religion.
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@rameshkumaar57 (5908)
• India
21 Jan 09
Madame you are 89 years old, I do not want to argue with you, I always respect my elders. Have a good night.
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@Harisankar (59)
• India
21 Jan 09
yea the true path of wealth
u know wht pentacoast in india is
it is not christianity,it is the mission of converting people of 5 coastal religions to christianity by any means including giving wealth
in some places peoples are advised to make love with peoples in other religions and convert thm to pentacoast too,
the mission was to end in 2000,but the india is the only one country remain unsuccesful in converting ratio cause of the heritage of india,
so they are now trying to convert people by saying krishna is christ and all,
i am sick of these peoples,but there are true christians too.
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@runner0369 (641)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Oh, ok you don't believe in hell so you were making fun of Christians, I thought so from the last post but I was not 100% sure, I was a little worried that you actually wanted to go to hell which is a little scary... Well reading all of your complaints have provided me with some entertainment, thank you. I hope you find a spiritual path that gives you peace that you can actually believe in. Have you tried meditating? It can be very soothing and you sound kind of tense... but writing all these posts may have allowed you to get out your anger and you may feel better now, I hope so. I know that it can be frustrating when people try to convert you but you have to realize that they really believe what they are saying and so in their mind they are trying to save you from this terrible fate so you just have to thank them for caring so much and move on, don't let them stress you out or you could end up with high blood pressure or something later on. Just smile and nod then run away as soon as an opportunity comes, lol! Good luck!
@runner0369 (641)
• United States
21 Jan 09
I guess I was giving Christians the benefit of the doubt? I would like to think that they are just trying to help us but maybe I am wrong, I cannot read minds after all. Sorry if I offended you with the making fun, I was referencing the sarcasm in the last post about him being one of the devils best friends and wanting to go to hell. I apoligize if I offended anyone with any assumptions I made...
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@TravisE (440)
• United States
21 Jan 09
Sataness, you can't lump all Christians together like that and expect to get any result other than further confusion. Some Christians are converting people out of fear of being wrong. Some out of fear of being alone. Some out of love of money. Some out of love of their fellow man. Some because it's what all their friends are doing.
Making blanket statements and conclusions is just pulling the wool over one's own eyes. (Get it? "Blanket" "Wool" See? That was funny right there.)
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@sataness (321)
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21 Jan 09
'so in their mind they are trying to save you from this terrible fate' are you sure? Because i'm getting confused as to whether christians want people to convert because they are lacking believers in modern society or simply because they are 'saving' us. Why must you assume a person who makes a comment questioning the various extreme lengths to religious belief must be making fun of them? I've heard the same thingsa he's mentioned about how you get told u have to believe in jesus to go to heaven.... but that just turns jesus and God into a hypocrite for me... oh well each to their own
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