An Ironic Observation Regarding Obama
By aprilj1231
@aprilj1231 (288)
United States
February 1, 2009 7:16pm CST
Please don't bash me ok, I am not posting this to get an earful of propoganda from either side. I hold my own opinions and I expect you to hold your own as well...I can respect that. I should also preface the statement I'm about to make by saying that my family is a mixed up lot....my great grandmother is half Cherokee, I have a cousin who is half black/half white, I have an adoted aunt, on my dad's side of the family we have blackfeet and souix ancestery as well as prussians who came through Ellis Island. What I'm trying to say is we come from everywhere, we have a little bit of everything (if we were dogs, we'd be mutts, or what I hear a vet call the All American breed), we are from all walks of life and live in all corners of the country. So here's my observation.....can we really say that Barak Obama is indeed the first black or African American president? Is he really? I might be mistaken, but I recall reading that his mother who raised him is caucasian...so wouldn't that make him (albeit more afluential) just like my family, a mixture of all that makes America and Americans what we are? Just curious, it seems to me that while he has made history he cannot truly be called the first African American president without denying the heritage of his mother's family.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
2 Feb 09
Actually, he might officially be the first one of color but rumor has it there were five in-official ones before him, including Abraham Lincoln, who just happened to be 'white' enough to pass as white. And they ran as 'white'.
Anyhow, most of us are mutts no matter where we come from. At one point, way back when, there was influence of another race. Scientists say that the human race pretty much originated in Africa.
Obviously Obama is not what is considered truly 'black' but rather a half-and-half. Yet the color of his skin happened to be greatly influenced by his father's side and he had to live with it and identifies by his own account with being 'black', not 'white' not a 'mix'... I don't want to discount it, I'm sure at some points in his life he did experience some sort of racial discrimination just because of the color of his skin. For racial purposes and old racial standards, btw, he is considered 'black' not 'white'.
I think overall, he is rightfully called a 'black' president, if you apply racial standards. Personally, I think he is a human being, that's all. I don't care much about race and really wish we would put away with all the classifications. That really doesn't help to eliminate racial discrimination. In fact we so politically over-correct ourselves that we have to change terms all the time, because one way or another the currently acceptable term has become unacceptable. African-American is a terribly long term and misrepresentation. What if I would apply that to somebody who is a native (born, with a long line of ancestors, who have made their home there) African, but happens to be 'white', who comes to the US, becomes a citizen... wouldn't that also be an African-American, yet the person is white?
Yep, definitely time to put away with the labels and let people simply be people.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 Feb 09
"Scientists say that the human race pretty much originated in Africa."
I don't think scientists have ever said that specifically. I believe the oldest human remains were found in Africa, but that is no more conclusive than beforehand when the oldest human remains were found in Germany. I believe the best evidence on ancient human civilization has narrowed it down to 5 different areas in the Eurasia-Africa landmass.
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@aprilj1231 (288)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I realize no one is really all black or all white or all anything for that matter. I don't look at skin color to determine ability. I could care less what color people are...I am constantly amazed that news agencies make such a point of race. I just thought it was interesting that a person could identify more with half their heritage when it suited them and with the other half when it suited them. I am proud of my heritage (even the inevitable skeleton's in my family closet), I am proud of where my family came from and what they've done but I don't lessen the merits of one part of my family over another just to get a head
@smartie0317 (1610)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I'm going to say something, and you and many posters may not like it, but Obama is not your typical black person. I'm not saying a black is this, or isn't that. However, look at someone like him and I believe Halle Berry. Both raised and around more so their white family. How can you truly be black, or represent blacks?, if you were raised around white people? I also believe, Obama would not have accomplished as much as he did if he were not for his white family. This is just my opinion, but Obama uses his race, both white and black, when it's good for him. I.e. he's black when he needs to be for votes or image. He's white or multicultural when he needs it for votes or image. Clearly, if you're both you're both, but imo don't play up being one when you need and the other when you need it.
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@sluggo89 (43)
• Sweden
2 Feb 09
i think that he can represent black people wether or not he was raised around white poeple or not. He still has to go through the same problems as other black people becouse of his skin color so i think he knows what it's like to be black.
@smartie0317 (1610)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I mean, he doesn't represent Black American Culture. It's like if say I say I'm American because I was born here, but let'a say lived all my life in Europe. Am I American? Yes. Do I represent Americans? No. As I said in my first post, his white hertiage and family gave him a lot more opportunties than he would have had if he had two black parents. Perhaps, he has been treated poorly due to his skin on occanison, but perhaps he would have never had the chance to be treated anyway if he were fully black. I just don't think the typically fully black person would have had the opportunties Obama had. I remember reading an article about Michelle or maybe them both. I just remember her saying he wasn't like anyone she met and him calling her more traditional. I also remember her saying things always seemed to come easier to him. You have to wonder if has to do with him being part white. I think a part of me, and others it seems, are disappointed that our first Black person doesn't really represent American Blacks.
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@SeoulBoy_Art (193)
• Japan
2 Feb 09
Well the law says if you have one drop of black blood in you then you are black. If you go back and check the books you will see that. Throughout the south that was the case. Heck at the time he was born there were certain states his parents couldn`t even live in. So, yes, he is black.
@aprilj1231 (288)
• United States
2 Feb 09
I know about the silly laws that are still on the books. If that were really true, then I should have listed myself as a minority too because I know for a fact we have both black and native American ancestory.
@sluggo89 (43)
• Sweden
2 Feb 09
even if he only is half african-american he still breaks the stereotype for how most presidents look. It's just as hard for a person that's half black to become president as it is for a person with both a black dad and a black mom.