should divorce be legalized in the philippines?
@doc_alma_jones (822)
Philippines
February 3, 2009 11:01am CST
the philippines has been known to be a predominantly catholic country, whose politics is greatly influenced by religion.
divorce is currently not legal in the philippines. but there has been talk of actually making it legal.
should the philippines allow divorce among its people?
what factors should be considered carefully in making the decision?
i would love to hear what you think. :D
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7 responses
@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
i would rather prefer to leave the marriage law as it is, so as not to make matters worst. if we legalize divorce in the philippines then marriage would be taken for granted. it is a fact that a lot of filipinos are separated by their personal choice and not annuled but at least, we have kept it at a minimum. if they make it legal, in time the family structure will suffer. when it does, there will be a lot of unhappy people living like zombies. if there are a lot of unhappy and miserable grown ups then it starts to get into our socio-psychological make up. it means , there will be more twisted minds in the seat of government in the future.
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@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
the divorce debate has been going on for years because so many people are so miserable in their marriages and they want out. perhaps divorce will solve the problem for these people. just perhaps. but then again, it's like making a whole new problem... i can imagine gold diggers getting married to rich people, then divorcing them after a year, to get their hands on the money. i can see people not taking marriage too seriously, what with divorce on the table.
it's a tough decision because there really are people who can't get out of their marriages (they won't even be accepted for annulment since they don't qualify). in a world like ours where reality bites, we have to make sure the solutions we offer target the core of the problem.
@MissAmie (717)
• United States
4 Feb 09
Wow, I didn't know there was anywhere in the world that didn't allow divorce. Thanks for teaching me something today! As far as whether or not I think legalizing divorce is right for your the Philippines, I can't answer that with any certainty. I am not very familiar with Philippino politics, but I do think that in the U.S. we take divorce way to lightly. If it were harder to get divorced I think we would more carefully consider our decisions to get married. In cases of spousal abuse and certain rare circumstances, I don't think people should get divorced. But sometimes people change after you get married. There should be a way out if your life is in danger or if your marriage was based on a false image of someone.
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
if i'm not mistaken, divorce is not necessary in the philippines if your reason for wanting to end the marriage is abuse. they file for annulment. this means the marriage was not valid in the first place, because the abuser lied about his identity, and a marriage is valid only if both parties have been honest to each other.
but you're right, countries that allow divorce are definitely not as serious as they should be about marriage. because they can always get divorced if they no longer like to be in that relationship. and it's funny how some people get divorced, and THEN they get remarried. hmmm.
glad to know you picked up something new, MissAmie. :D thanks for sharing your views! despite being brought up in a country where divorce is as common as marriage, you took a moment to consider if it should be legalized in another country. that shows discernment. :D
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
Unless we amend the constitution which provides that the family should be protected as the basic social unit, there is no "should" about divorce being allowed in the Philippines since it is contrary to such constitutional provision. However, there are still some people who have been able to get around the fact that divorce is not allowed by filing a case for annulment and even if there is no substantial basis, usually with collusion of the parties and sometimes the judge, they are able to get their marriage annulled.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
Tha question was asked me in a recent forum i attended discussing alternative dispute resolution as a means of settling differences. Options were being discussed and i happened to have been asked what i took into consideration when I got married. Whether i loved the guy or not was the main consideration although compatibility and security also was considered because i said i would not want to end up in a marriage that no longer worked. When asked if i favored divorce if the marriage had turned sour i said no even while admitting that i was no longer married to my husband (annulled). The lecturer said i was inconsistent and illogical but i pointed out that while my marriage might not have worked out, i still believe in the sacredness of marriage and what people should do is not to resort to a law on divorce but to really be very careful in deciding to get married, to exercise intelligence in choosing a life partner and most important, if they topok the plunge, to do everything possible to make the marriage work. And if nothing does work, to live with the mistake.Of course, that's where my catholic upbringing and my religion comes in. I might be illogical but that's my view on the matter.
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
yes, there have been a few unscrupulous judges who allow "annulment" to occur, despite the fact that a couple may not even be qualified for it.
with the advent of the women's health bill, i feel like anything can happen. it can start opening doors, and i still do not know what i'll see beyond them.
if the constitution was amended, do you believe divorce should be allowed in the philippines?
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
hehe. if that's illogical, then i'm illogical as well. although i'm a bad catholic (i don't go to mass much), the catholic faith really has some decent doctrines. they really REALLY make a good point when they say that the long-term solution is not to dissolve all marriages that don't work. yes, it may be a temporizing solution, but the problem (marriages that don't work) is not truly resolved. i have been hearing in past theology classes that the definitive solution is to make sure people are educated about marriage and how to make it work, and to make sure everyone is counselled about it BEFORE the act of marriage.
in other words, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. especially if the cure leaves a bitter aftertaste...
@siomaiii (238)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
Hi there doc! I'm from the Philippines, and I'm not in favor for divorce to be legalized. Although I'm not yet married and haven't experienced the married life, still I'm anti-divorce. Marriage is a sacred vow. It is a lifetime commitment. So before settling down, think a million times if you are ready for marriage. And if you have chosen the right partner in life.
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
yes, countries where divorce is legal are not always serious about who they are marrying. some are, but the others always think at the back of their minds that, hey, they can always get divorced anyway.
but countries where divorce is not legal are trapped in their mistakes, if they did indeed make one.
so, i guess, to each his own poison. :D
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
4 Feb 09
i think the philippies, must stick into its laws that never legalize divorce because it affect the culture that it heir from our ancestors. that marriage must be divine and no one untie the rope that bind them together. preserve the sanctity of marriage that God, commanded to his very own people. if we agree, that divorce must legalize in the philippines, this is violating the constitution for equal protection. how can you give equal to the people, that the philippines is one of the poorest country ever. if you legalize divorce, the only counted will likely those rich and politician being carried out because poor people have no money to file a divorce.
i think it is not applicable for people in the philippines.law makers are bias here.they only making laws to benefit them...
@icemanplus (1)
• Philippines
15 Feb 11
aerous, if you dig in Philippine history a little deeper you might actually get shocked that before- our ancestors actually did support divorce even during the pre-Spanish era and quite some time then on. Prior lawmakers and people of the constitution before actually left the decision of legalizing divorce to the congress that followed them. there is no specific law in the 1987 Philippine constitution that prohibits the legalization of divorce so it is completely constitutional. and since when did the topic of divorce got into the graft and corruption section of topics of discussions got included? just saying :) i respect your opinion though.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Wow.... You have some interesting topics for me today. (and answers that amuse as well as annoy from people who need to get a life)
Ok... I don't think that religion should be allowed in legal issues and in the Philippines (as well as other places) it is. If the other spouse can take half of what you own that is a legal not moral or religious issue.
But it sounds as if Divorce isn't legal because of religion. Um, well I'm not a good Catholic because I tend to disagree with many old practice that I think are a bit out of date. Forcing marriages on people is one.
So in short, yes it should be legal.
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
oh no, i tried to reply to your post but the magic of internet swallowed my message whole.
sigh...
anyway, yes, forcing marriage on people is wrong. in the philippines, you will find a lot of paradoxes & ironies; that's what makes this country very interesting. :D
thanks for sharing! :)
@markbrauer16 (265)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Yes, if people can eat cats and dogs in a country than they should be able to change there mates as well.
@doc_alma_jones (822)
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
i have to admit, i was quite shocked by the response that i had to start a new thread (look at my other divorce thread) to discuss exactly what this member shared with us.
i did not know whether i should be outraged or amused.