Schools getting heat for teaching "going green"
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
February 7, 2009 8:56pm CST
Children as young as 5 years old are told to avoid plastic water bottles, carry lunches in reusable containers, to conserve water and reduce their trash, both at school and at home. They're also taught that planet earth is in trouble and animals' lives could be in danger.
The students are taking part in what's called "National Green Week," organized by the Green Education Foundation. Schools across the country are encouraged to teach children about recycling, global warming and carbon footprints.
"It's important to start creating habits now, while children are young, because it can add up over a lifetime to make huge monumental consequences to the environment," said Victoria Waters, president of the Green Education Foundation.
Critics say using public schools as a means to change habits and opinions on things such as ecology and global warming, amounts to environmental religion, because the beliefs of some are being forced on all children. The kids are then pressured to bring that information home and impose it on their families.
Angela Logomasini, from a free-market environmental policy group called the Competitive Enterprise Institute, says it's political indoctrination.
What do you think? Should the schools be teaching it or should it be left to the parents to decide how "earth friendly" to teach their children to be?
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@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
Is teaching something that can help the world a more breathable place to live still needs to be debated? Unbelievable! No one is reacting when theories of creation are presented to students as if they are facts then why all of a sudden, some are reacting as if cleaning our environment is a disease.I can't understand when people reacts negatively to things that can do positive change in society.
If you are here in the Philippines, you will notice that most of our metropolis have unmanageable garbage. Some of the residents, children and even adults, don't know how to dispose their garbage properly when they are on the streets that canals and drainages are clogged with lots of plastic materials and other garbage. As such, even slight rains can bring flood to some of our cities. I will therefore encourage that since some parents don't know anything about cleanliness and environmental conservation, children be taught in school not just how to dispose garbage properly but to help in conserving/preserving earth. This world is the only planet we got for ourselves.
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@dnatureofdtrain (5273)
• Janesville, Wisconsin
8 Feb 09
I am not debating about them teaching good habits and what can help the world. I however do not believe it is fair for the school or institution to pressure the children into pressuring their parents and family into the schools agenda or propaganda.. or teaching them how to pressure as many times children are not being taught this right and are becoming abusive to their family members... or causing serious problems in the family.. and if the family already has their issues they do not need teachers adding to them.. with their agenda...
Well, actually people are reacting to creationism..
I have a little story on that. We called my Biological teacher Doc..
I told him as a joke I was not gonna do anything in the creation unit because it's against the Bible I was purely joking... Docs Face got bright red.. and I swear smoke was coming out of his ears as he told me to shut up and called me my dads name.. Jr. ... I laughed.. Well.. I later found out my Dad had him as the same teacher.. and my dad started off saying the same thing, But he really did not do anything in that unit, and all the students followed his lead...
It should be taught as theory, just as plate tectonics etc...
And I think Teaching Religion SHOULD be allowed in school if its part of the world culture and history lessons, and as long as it is not done to convert... the children....
I encourage the children sharing what they learned with their parents, and encouraging family to help them in their new found activism, but I do not encourage the teacher really pressuring children into pressuring parents....
Regardless of the topic or agenda..
We send the children to school to learn and come back home and share with us. We do not send the children to school to learn, and then come back home and impose on us the current agenda of that educational institution.
- DNatureofDTrain
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@aprilj1231 (288)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I think it should be up to the parents. That being said, my daughter's school has "going green" as their theme this year so they talk a great deal about the environment and recycling. I don't love it because some of the things they talk about are a bit much for me....like using milk jugs to make crafts. I don't care about that I don't have time to do it. We just make sure we sit down with our daughter and talk about what the school is saying and how we feel about it and why. We try to be proactive....but I know many parents at her school that just allow the school to tell their children what to think.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Schools do have that issue...they tell the children what to think instead of letting them think for themselves.
@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
8 Feb 09
The schools are giving the children idea's it does not mean that you have to follow through with it. Perhaps your daughter can come up with a great idea of her own. What they are teaching your daughter is recycling something used into some usable. It will help to expand her imagination in the future years. Just my point of view
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Unless you are an abysmally stupid person who has been living under a rock for the past decade you know and your kids know that the earth is warming up and we need to do something about it. This is not a liberal or conservative thing anymore. It's about planetary survival of the species and if we don't do something soon our kids will suffer for it. I say good for schools for exposing kids to this idea early. It's not the schools fault if parents don't do their jobs.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Feb 09
The schools are not the parents. not just in this issue but in others I feel the schools step over the line. Yes it is a good thing to teach your children. But not the schools responsibility.
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Well, I think it's a great thing, as long as the schools are also doing their part. My school, for instance, uses recyclable styrofoam-like cups that are made out of corn oil and uses all biodegradable recycled paper plates and cups. That is a great place to start.
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@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
8 Feb 09
I think it is all right for schools to start such education. Children are a blank sheet of paper, the first imputs are likely affecting their lifetime.
Another issue brought to notice by the educational administration is related with observation of traffic rules. They are the first to take serious attention to the traffic lights, and they are so serious that parents look ridiculour and feel ashamed if not doing properly.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
8 Feb 09
I think it is finally a step in the right direction. If schools can teach responsible habits at a young age those values and ideas will stick with the kids all their lives. North Americans use up 40% of the world's resources. Imagine if every country in the world would be as wasteful and careless as we are there would be no green spots or forests left for our grandchildren only rubble and piles of garbage. I know many people in the US resent it when authorities try to implement programs. There is always the cry that it is up to the parents to teach the kids responsible ways. The sad truth is there are so many irresponsible parents who could not care less. There are also ingrained habits that are hard to break. I see it here on mylot. Sometimes there are discussions where people express their disgust at the idea of using a bathtowel more than once or changing bed sheets every two or three weeks instead of every few days, and yet there are already severe water shortages in many places in the USA. We as Canadians are getting worried about our water resources and attempts by companies to divert lots of water to the US which is not really a solution in the long run either. It would deplete us and leave parts of the US in the same predicament as before.
Conservation and a commitment to use non renewable resources in a respectful and responsible manner are the key. The earlier we get to the kids the better.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Feb 09
At a time when every college and university has to offer high school level classes for freshmen who weren't really ready to graduate, no, this is not a step in the right direction.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Feb 09
Isn't it ironic that teachers and administrators are constantly telling us that there just isn't enough time or resources to teach our kids the basics of Reading, Writing, Arithmatic, History...etc... but somehow they always find the time and resources to spew propaganda.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Feb 09
That would be an example, but not the whole point. Teachers are always complaining that they don't have the time or resources to properly teach their subjects... but apparently they have time and resources to propagandize their students.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
8 Feb 09
I do think it is the school duty to teach not indoctrinate as you have put it our children to be eco friendly. If we instill good values in our youngsters we are ensuring a better future for us all including them. I don't see anything wrong in schools promoting a healthier environment.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Feb 09
"Environmental Religion"? Are they fricking kidding me...lol? Using this Competitive Enterprise Institute's reasoning we might as well not even have school because they could probably come up with an argument why everything they're taught is a form of "political indoctrination"! I know people have differing opinions about global warming and other environmental concerns but is there anyone who thinks waste and pollution is good? Does anyone really think it's better to continue to fill up our landfills than to recycle things that can be used again? It's not unusual for parents to actually learn things from their children. I say if any parent is upset that their child is being taught to be "earth friendly" in school, let them take it up with the local school board to home school their kids.
Annie
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
9 Feb 09
teachers are having a hard time teaching our kids the basics they need like reading, math, science and history. Our test scores are lower than other countries that spend less on education than we do. So why are the focusing on teaching other things than that? Schools are asking for more money and resources because they are saying they do not have enough to teach was is needed. So therefore while I think it is a good thing to teach kids (I have taught my son to recycle, he helped decorate the containers and to sort the items that need to go in each one) they need to focus on what is really important and leave the rest to mom and dad. Schools are loosing their focus.
@shaggin (72014)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I think that some of it should be left up to the parents to teach there children but I don't think that the schools are wrong in trying to educated chilren on the benefits of going green. Anything that helps the environment is a plus. Kids cant help it if there parents buy ziplock bags instead of using plastic containers that can be washed and reused but its also good to teach them the difference in what the effect is on the environment just so they know. I think the National Green Week sounds wonderful. I remember when I was in elementary school we had small cardboard milk cartons. Some group or organization came through and did an assembly on how these other milk containers that were literally like a square plastic bag that you punch a straw into to drink the milk. When empty it was no more then a empty ziplock bag size which saved a lot of room in the landfills. The school didn't use them for long as when the kids were done drinking from them they would fill them up with air and pop them. It was punishable by having to stand out in the middle of the floor in front of everyone until lunch was over. I think its stupid that they let a little nuisance like kids popping the bags change the wonderful idea that they came up with to help reduce the amount of garbage. Its been many years since the alternate to cardboard milk cartons came about but I believe they are still using the cardboard milk cartons. They take up a lot of room in the landfill and its pointless when they could cut down on the garbage by going back to the plastic bag idea! I think its really important that not only do the schools teach kids the benefits of recycling but that they show a good example by having collection bins for scrap paper and making small compost piles in science rooms or outside the school. There is a lot that a school can do to teach kids how to be earth friendly without having to impose on parents to much.
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@snam23 (3157)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I think schools should do this but not at this age. 5 year old children can barely think for themselves and they are told how to save the environment. I think it should be taught when they are older so that they can make the decision on their own and not be forced by the school.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I agree. Like high schoolers instead of small children.There is a difference between teaching and brain washing.
@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I beg to differ a childs mind at the age of 5 can absorb alot more info than a teenager. This is factual. A child can easily learn a second language at this age alot quicker than at the age of 13. Their mind is a sponge. Do not under estimate your five year old child. My grandson at the age of 2 is taught and told daily whether he should put it in the trash or in the recycling bin and he is catching on very quickly. My 2 year old grandson can also count in 3 different languages up to 20, and can say his alphabet in 2 languages. Challenge your children it is the best thing for their minds.
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@snam23 (3157)
• United States
8 Feb 09
Exactly what I was thinking. Even if we teach little kids, it doesn't mean they will always do it. I mean, how many 5 year olds do you know that can follow directions without any help?
On the other hand, older kids like high schools would have learned or seen on TV/news that we are destroying the environment and global warming is happening. They would understand better and would know what to do to help if they wanted to. We have a club at my high school called "Global Cooling" that works on helping the school help the environment. It is only for high school for good reason. Happy mylotting!
@danrunsfast614 (1396)
• United States
9 Feb 09
I think it is fine. Maybe they shouldn't necesarilly touch on global warming, but everyone knows it is good not to be wasteful and recycle and enforcing these habits when young is good.
@daynalee80 (40)
• Singapore
8 Feb 09
Well, I'm a teacher, and I believe that all students know that we should save the earth by doing recycling. My students toke paper from the recycling bins to use to decorate the class display board, saving money and resources. I'm happy with that. However, my school just announced that as a Go Green gesture, and because an organisation is organising an inter-school recycling plastic bottles competition, all students are to bring empty plastic bottles to recycle and minimum is 20 bottles per student. They offer an individual prize and class prize for this and the organisation is offering a school prize. Suddenly I have students who normally do not purchase sugared drinks during their breaks purchasing them so as to make sure they fulfil the quota within the month. Is this really recycling? They are doing it not for the Earth but because they do not want to be punished by the school, and also for some students they are targetting for the individual and class prize. As a teacher of the school who has been telling students to recycle when possible, I feel that the Green Committee teachers made a wrong move to set a minimum per students just because they would want to look good to the outside people by making sure we really send in a good amount of bottles. 1400 students time 20 each means 28 thousand bottles! But how many of them are really for recycling purposes? And teachers' quota is 25 bottles each! *shake head*
@daynalee80 (40)
• Singapore
9 Feb 09
Well, I don't really wanna speak up. My school don't like vocal teachers. Ours is an Asian school and most of the instructions are topdown. Sigh.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
8 Feb 09
It should be up to the parents. What they are teaching in schools seems to be a religion, and I would not be surprised that they will soon teach about the worship of the mother goddess, or something in that line. I do think it is all right for the schools to have a recyclable bin, and to throw in their plastic bottles and cans to maybe help some cause such as relieving poverty,collecting to help a hospital, but to demand that the children avoid plastic water bottles, etc.
Now if they found out that plastic water bottles cause cancer, etc. then the school could suggest that the kids refuse those glass juice bottles, but if it is not right to impose Christian world views then it is just as wrong to impose a pagan world view which is what this going green for the sake of protecting the earth and not for honoring God is.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I depends on how it is taught - taught incorrectly, it will scare the smaller children instead of educating them.
@tudors (1556)
• China
8 Feb 09
hey, very good topic. and what a good idea, i love that and i truly hope such foundation takes root in my city, in my country. Children take what their teachers say more seriously than what their parents say. Therefore, when students are called for doing something to protect the globe, shown the easy way of contributing to the environmental protection, this will become school children's good habit. consequently, these children will correct their parents' wrong doings.
@Bohemian77 (277)
• United States
8 Feb 09
The problem I have is the schools are not teaching facts, they are pushing an agenda using propaganda. Global warming is NOT man-made, it's natural. Throughout the history of our planet, it has naturally cycled through cooler periods and warmer periods. They should be teaching these facts.
I do believe that children should be taught not to litter, but beyond that, it gets silly.
School is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmatic. Leave morality, and beliefs to the parents.
Parents, take back your children!