Current info on who is Who pays for the Octuplets recently born invetro
By coffeebreak
@coffeebreak (17798)
United States
February 12, 2009 9:28am CST
Who pays for the Octuplets?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
Yep, playing the system and getting away with it and those little ones are the ones that will suffer..Going back to school to get her degree...how will she be able to pay for child care? It is outrageous here in California. And that is the tip of the ice berg- have you seen the price of diapers and formula lately? And immunizations?
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@moneymommy (3418)
• United States
12 Feb 09
I know shes getting aid from the state. She has no business having more children. Anyone in there right mind would not bring more children into this world in those circumstances. To make things worse she purposely got pregnant with in vitro fertilization. Shes old enough to know better she has no excuse for this behavior. I think she has mental problems and should be evaluated.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
12 Feb 09
I think she knew exactly what she was doing...her workman's comp ended and that was 2/3 her gross pay and she had it for length of time allowed - 4 years. That ended so she figured how to get free money.
New article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
"Suleman has been supporting her six other children with $490 a month in food stamps and receives Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters that could total $2,379 a month." (do the math and that is $2869 a month just from those 2 venues) Doesn't count the other welfare programs like WICs etc.
"She has estimated her in vitro fertilization procedures have cost $100,000.
Suleman has said she saved for the treatments by working double shifts and also used money from a disability award exceeding $165,000 that she received after an on-the-job back injury."
Well, she hadn't worked in 4-5 years cause she was on WC so what she "saved" from working double shifts you know was gone by now. Second she was receiving 2/3 her gross salary that whole time which INCLUDES that double shift income in the calculations so she was getting quite a bit there from WC PLUS the final settlement of $165k.
And that is just what she is admitting to! That doctor ought to be kicked out of hte medical field or forced to pay "child support" payments so us taxpayers don't have to!
@busibee (187)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Isn't that just lovely? This woman wanted a huge family and now the tax payers are going to support her and her huge family. She did lie throughout her entire interview with Ann Curry... when she said she wasn't getting any monetary help from the government (now it turns out she gets lots of money for her 3 disabled children AND she gets food stamps AND she used her student loans to support her children). Poor woman... there is something psychologically wrong with her... she needs help. Why would anyone want that many children unless they could provide without any problems? Is it a matter of love or attention? AND it turns out she DID have plastic surgery! GOODNESS!!! XOXO
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
13 Feb 09
No, nothing is wrong with her, she just found a way to play the system and make the system work for her so she doesn't have to work at all! IT worked when she had the first 6, whynot the second 6? Really it is hte doctor that should be tar and feathered for doing this for her when he knew she couldn't afford to support the ones she already had.
And what about the father...she said that same man fathered all 14 kids - why doesn't have have to pay child support for any of them???
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
13 Feb 09
I was amazed to read how the lady afforded her fertility treatment and understand that in the USA is is very expensive for one premature baby to stay in hospital. The bill for eight premature babies must be considerably more. I found out about my son's spina bifida at 36 weeks pregnancy. I had a home birth with two midwifes. My baby had two operations and stayed in hospital for three weeks. Thankfully my home country has a National Health Service. He gets catheters provided and physiotherapy treatment for his weak leg free of charge. I spend lots on his soya drink formula, food, nappies, clothes and other items like toys. I couldn't believe the disability pay outs the lady gets.
It is sad the lady is receiving hate mail. Each to their own with respect for others is what I think. The lady is unusual and I wish her as well as her children all the best.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
19 Feb 09
She went to Kaiser and didn't have to pay anything and Kaiser is asking the State of Calif to reimburse them via medicare or medicad... which ever... bottom line, us tax payers are paying that HUGE bill!
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Feb 09
yes i think its the stupidest thing any woman has done for a long time. shes getting assistance and living with her mom and dont even have a husband to pay so WE are paying with taxes in this awful economy and i think she should be prosecuted! what an idiot.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Yeah, we will be paying for the kids. I'd say the kids should be taken away and adopted by people that do want kids but can't have them, but then you are splitting up the kids/siblings/ brothers and sisters and that might not be a big issue right now, but later in life when they want their siblings back...
@soooobored (1184)
• United States
13 Feb 09
The woman is obviously nuts, and selfish to the point of being a sociopath. I have a huge problem with even insufficient birth control for people on public assistance (which is why I support planned parenthood), but to get medical help to have more children? It's a shame, these in vitro clinics will probably have to start instituting investigations to make sure their clients can provide for the children.
No matter what, this woman should be removed from the children.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
13 Feb 09
I think that if htey are already on public assistance, it should be mandatory to be on birth control too. I worked for an apartment complex and we rented to welfare people, Section 8 and such... and for every child they had, they got $75 for (thise was about 15 years ago) and I was the one that had to do the reporting of our renting and qualifying the apts to the welfare and qalify them to see if they met the guidlines for qualifying for the lowerrent.... and I did it for 4 years and literally quite a few of the "families" literally had a baby every year and got that extra $75. One had so many that it bumped her over the maximum and we had to take her off, and she quit her part time job, so her income was back within the guidelines and she could stay on welfare!
ANd I think to that the doctors should have guidelines too.. no, requirements. I watched wehre this woman's publisist was saying, there isn't a state or federal law about how many invitro implants that can be done, but the general thought is up to 3 at a time. And I think that this invitro should only be available to those women that dont' have kids nad can't have them any other way and if you do already have an abundance of children, a doctor can't do it at all, muchless again!
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
12 Feb 09
Not just the cost in money terms. But with those kids so close together none will get the time and child/parent love that is needed. I am worried about the teen years. There isn't the support system in place to help her or those kids.
I was thinking about all they aren't getting... it is the kids (the 8 and older 6) who will be most punished for the action Mom took.
I'm all for having a family and that it is her choice but if she is all she claims and had really thought this through... she would have waited at the very least.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
12 Feb 09
You bet that's the worst part of it all. All those little ones without hugs and personal attention they need and the affection kids need and want and the list goes on.
@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
13 Feb 09
I think there is enough blame to go around.
Her for having more children on purpose when she has many she can't support/take care of already.
The invitro doctor for doing the procedure on her in the first place.
Her parents for not getting her the psychiatric help she obviously needed before it was too late. Also her parents for not putting their foot down before this latest stunt.
Ultimately, her choosing to use her uterus as an incubator was her choice. Now it is up to the tax payers to pay for her poorly thought out choices.
@theweerouss (982)
• United States
13 Feb 09
This whole situation is absolutely sickening to me. I can't believe how irresponsible this mother is, and the doctors who treated her are just as bad! I can't believe anyone would 1) want to bring a child (or multiples) into a family that cannot feasibly support it, and 2) would condone, and endorse, that kind of poor decision making!
This woman has been on disability for years, has divorced her husband because she was mentally unfit to be a good wife, yet she decided she was mentally fit to be a mother. Doctors somehow agreed with her and proceeded to give her more treatments than she could possibly afford, plus more eggs than is healthy to give to such a young woman receiving IVF.
This was a losing situation from the very beginning. the mother and doctors should be ashamed of their actions, and held accountable for the repercussions. I hope that the courts take a whiff of reality soon and take a look at what this woman really is: unfit to raise her 14 children.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
13 Feb 09
Yeah, that doctor should be disbarred or whatever as he obviously, since this is his second time doing this to this same woman...isn't capable of making qualified, intelligent and proper decisions.
And any woman that wants that many at one time ought to have a full check of her abilities and finances before invitro is done- if you can't support 6 kids, you can only have 1 implant .. or something like that..
She isn't mentially ill... she just knows how to play the system and not have to work and still win. Thing is, those babies are the ones that will pay the price.
IF she herself had to take care of the 6 she had with NO assistance from anyone but herself, she might not have done this, but since she did it once and tons of help from all over...sounds like a good gig to her! Worked once, will work again.