Do you think you need a marriage certificate to feel married?
By kayla_7602
@kayla_7602 (704)
Canada
February 16, 2009 9:56pm CST
OK so me and my hubby are not actually married. However we have been together for 8 years, have a 6 year old son and have bought a house togther. He is my best freind, makes me laugh, supports and respects me. And i do the same for him.
We have talked about married and it is not that we dont want to be married we just feel we can spend the money in better ways then a wedding at this time in our lives. Even though we have not been married, we both feel like we are married.
We both agree that this is who we want to be with for the rest of our lives, we love each other and support each other.
To me the marriage certificate and wedding is not what makes the "marriage" it is the feelings, time and love put into the relationship. Now if we had lots of money...or had our house already paid for yes we would get married we are not against it...we just feel that at this time in our lives we can spend our money in better ways.
So how do you feel do you think you need a marriage certificate to feel married?
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31 responses
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
As for me, the "marriage contract" or the "marriage ceremony" aren't in my TOP LIST of priorities right now.
I have a relationship for 4 years now, and my bf wants us to get married. For me, it isn't marriage that makes or holds the relationship intact. Am not saying that I do not love him or that I don't want to marry him, it's just that "marriage" is a BIG COMMITMENT AND RESPONSIBILITY. Am not also saying that I don't want commitment and responsibility, rather it is because I don't want us to be pressured with the idea that our actions will be limited and that our focus will be on the family.
Indeed, I want to have a family of my own and I still blieve in the sanctity of marriage. However, I want us still to have liberty without the pressure to fulfill the marriage vows that are very hard to keep. Besides, to express ones love can't only be shown through marriage....IT IS IN THE MIND. I agree with you, it is how you felt it and consider the relationship that matters. The marriage contract and the ceremony are just a formality.
In the legal point of view, marriage is important for purposes of civil status, succession, property rights and the legitimacy of the children, if there's any. Definitely, couples who don't receive the sacrament of matrimony or those who are not legally married are called LIVE-IN PARTNERS or COMMON-LAW COUPLES. Certainly, they have less civil rights and the children born within that relationship are illegitimate.
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
21 Feb 09
Hi Kayla, thanks for commenting on my response and for agreeing most part of it.
I want to make my response clear anyway that I am not against those who believe the importance of marriage, because for me I also stated that I still believe in marriage. I made it clear that for now, marriage is not in my top list of priorities because I want to be a LAWYER first and I want to give the credit to my grandparents who supported me in finishing my Law School, that is why.
Legally speaking, common law couples have limited right compared to legally married couples.
What I meant with my statement that children born within the common-law relationship are considered illegitimate is that, parents being not legally married makes the children illegitimate. And when the parents became legally married, the children that are illegitimate are automatically considered legitimated.
There is a difference between acknowledged child to legitimate child. Your child is considered acknowledged, but still illegitimate because legitimacy follows the legal status of parents.
Hope I was able to explain well about your inquiry my friend.
@jeffson1989 (6)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
I think marriage is very important because it gives a person a life-long companionship. It increases close-knit ties between families. Marriage can give you a way to extend your family name through your new generation. However, in many civilizations, people believe that marriages should be conducted within the family.
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
20 Feb 09
I agree with you for the most part. However being common-law you are not automatically entitled to things, like propery, life insurance, ect ect...however you can request for all that and it can be done. We are not married but we do legally share everything equally.
As for the legitmacy of children...I have a 7 year old son...by the man I am common-law married to. I do not consider him illegitimate. He has 2 parents who love him. A mom and a dad who love each other, a home, a dog. Parents who attend his school functions and sports games, parents care for his every need and love him unconditionally. SO i do not agree with the statement about children bieng illegitimate. Like what do you mean by illegitimate?
@jeffson1989 (6)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
The marriage certificate is the thing that you really need in times that your family or with your husband has trouble.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
in my opinion no. you dont need any certificate to feel married. i am married for 6 years already but live-in with my now wife first before getting married. i felt married since the day she moved in. we have friends who are married but does not feel married for the respect and the trust is no longer there so whats the certificate can do about that.
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
20 Feb 09
I agree with you, I know many couples who are married with rings and certificates...but there relationships dont last...next thing you know they are paying for a divorce after spending all this money on a wedding. It;s not that I am against marraige at all...it's just that i feel if i am going to be with the person forever then i can wait becuase it dosnt matter, i will still be with them 10 years from now...and can get married then if i choose.
@dropofrain (1167)
• India
17 Feb 09
You don’t only need marrriage certificate to feel married but to show others that you are married you need to have marriage certificate. Marriage certificate is required for all the other processes so the importance is quite high that ways. Emotionally you do not need the certificate to feel you are married.
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
20 Feb 09
What other purposes is the marriage certificate required for exactly?
@worldbestwriter2008 (1633)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
a piece of paper make your togetherness legal in the eyes of the public...you can be married without spending money try to get wed with civil rights...then no need of photo and video for your wedding only a piece of paper, wedding ring and ballpen..do you think you could spent a big money for these...marriage certificate is the most important in a couple who live together...special if you have your kids already...your kids shouldn't suffer for this...he/she has the rights to have parents with marriage certificate..
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
20 Feb 09
Why do you think he has the right to have parents with a marriage certificate. Is it going to make him happy, or lead a better life. I dont think so...i know kids of parents who have been married...and those kids have lived through divorce and hatred. Im not saying that is what marriage is...I am just saying that just because you have a certificate dosnt mean you are happy.
My son has a home with 2 parents who both love him, and each other. He goes on vacation with his parents, he has friends sleep over and sleeps out. His parents go to watch his plays at school and his sports games, we go skating and on and on and on.
We are a family...we all love each other. So why does not having a marriage certificate change this. How does it make him suffer?
@Jae2619 (1483)
• United States
17 Feb 09
No piece of paper, no fancy ring, or a big huge elaborate wedding is gonna make me feel more married than I am now. My husband so to speak have been together for 10 years, we have two children together, and we are very much in love. We live in a common law state so we've had to sign that form so I can be covered under his insurance.
Having a piece of paper or a big ol' wedding isn't gonna change my feelings or make me love him anymore. I know he's commited to me, and i am to him, and as i've read many many articles on people who have shared so much of a live together finally do get married, it usually ends in divorce, so both me and my hushand both agree why change something that's working.
Many people look down on us and feel we are sinning and so on, but we are happy, our children are loved and that's what matters the most.
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
20 Feb 09
I totally agree with you. My and my hubby have 1 son who is 6, a house we share...a life we share. We love each other and if it's going to work...it's not becuase we have a piece of paper telling us that were married. It's because we bothe whole-heartedly want to be with each other. We both love our family and life togther. We both support each other, and are there in sad times. No peice of paper is really gonna make a difference.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
17 Feb 09
yes, i did actually... as a woman, i need the piece of paper and a ring to feel secure and feel that i am actually already married... otherwise, i will feel like nothing... the wedding ceremony is not that important to me... the most important one is the church's holy matrimony, the marriage certificate and the ring... and that is what i did to my wedding... we don't have a huge ceremony as we don't have much money... just a simple one... we don't have honeymoon as well until now... but it is OK for me as long as i have the paper and the ring... take care and have a nice day...
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I'm with you on this. I don't see that it makes a big difference...just a piece of paper really. The only thing that I know marriage is important for is things like social security benefits etc. If your hubby were to pass, you would not be entitled to his social security because you are not legally married. The money he paid in all those years would go back to the government.
@izathewzia (5134)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
I must admit, marriage certificates does many things to a married person. But on my case, it is not a certificate but the feeling of you are "married". Your husband or wife treated you his or her "partner" in everything. Not just a wife who will serve food or a husband who will work to buy food.
@celticeagle (168478)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Feb 09
No. The marriage certificate is just that. If there is true committment between two people and they have respect and consideration for one another then there is not need for that little piece of paper. I think woman want the wedding and all the fairy tale stuff but that is not all that is important. The very least really.
@flyinghi (130)
• Canada
17 Feb 09
A marriage certificate is not necessary for one to feel married. However legally you may need one if you plan to take care of your family should something happen to you. If a couple is not legally married, your spouse or children may not be entiled to benefits-either from work or from other ogranizations. If you are worried about the expense of having a wedding you can get married with little or no expense. I know my wedding was a very fruggle thing, but it was a truly beautiful day.
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@ankit_620 (496)
• India
19 Feb 09
no it is not mandatory that if you have a marriage certificate then only you are and have a feeling of it.
There some things which means more than piece of paper....
@joharp (2)
• United States
18 Feb 09
In my opinion if you are in love you are in love, and if you are happy you are happy. You don't need some marriage certificate to verify that or bring meaning to it. Others may say that it is a religious unity or that it is what you are SUPOSE to do. If you are religious and feel it is necessary to complete a circle then go for it, or if taxes purposes or job benefits come into play, then it is something to think about, but if you are perfectly content where you are at, then let it be. Don't complicate something that isn't complicated. Just live.
@kalin_84 (15)
• United States
18 Feb 09
In my opinion I don't need marriage certificate to feel married. If I love someone it is not so important the certificates we have, it is important our feelings. I thing paying for wedding, especialy a big one is not something I can allow. On otherhand it is good to get married, because of the insurances, visiting the person at hospital, legaly shareing the belongings and etc. So it depends of the view: "Do I need marriage certificate?" It depends of the need: 1) Spiritual 2)Material - Which one do you have? Which one is more importain for you?
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I don't think that you need a marriage certificate to "feel" married, but you do need the certificate to "be" married. You need to be recognized legally, especially if something were to happen to either one of you, the other wouldn't have any rights. It doesn't cost that much to go into a courtroom and sign a piece of paper to be legally married, either.
I think nowadays being legally married isn't so much about "doing the right thing morally" but more about "covering your bases" should something happen.
@jdoss23430 (379)
• United States
17 Feb 09
Hi Kayla, (my nieces name is Kayla too) I have also been with my boyfriend for 8 years, although we have no children together we still live as if we were married. We are, however, planning a wedding for May of this year mainly for health insurance reasons, he is retired military. I know that that reason sounds silly for getting married, but we know that we intend to stay together for the rest of our lives so we may as well get that piece of paper. In answer to your question though...no, i dont feel that you need that certificate in order to feel married, just to get the perks that come along with it....lol Its my opinion that each individual needs to do what they are comfortable with...have a great day !
@BloomerBeak (106)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
I am married now. But honestly, I feel more married when I and my husband weren't married yet. I mean, before our marriage, we were together, in whatever situation. Will it be for happiness or for troubles, we stick together. But now that we are married, and we already have our marriage certificate, I don't feel being married at all. We are islands away from each other. Marriage certificate are only for legality. But when it comes to feelings, it means nothing but just a piece of paper.
By the way, in our country, if a couple has been living together outside marriage for more than 6 (or is it 7?) years, the law will make it legal. Whether you like it or not, you will be forced to get married. hehe
@lisa0502 (1724)
• Canada
17 Feb 09
I think that it all depends on the people. I am a married woman of almost ten years. We had decided to get married after two years because we felt that the time was right. Take your time and when it is the time then you will know. You can be fully commited to each other whether you have the piece of paper or not.
@mermaidivy (15394)
• United States
17 Feb 09
It sounds very familiar... my hubby didn't want to spend the $$ on the wedding and stuff and he thinks it is not a big deal so we were just married married without doing anything. I was not happy about it but he said 'It is what it is..." and I asked what can we do for the wedding later on, he said "I don't know..." I'm really unhappy about the whole situation, I want to be a real bride in the wedding with him, it only happen ONCE in my life, why can't he do it good for us?
I don't know if it's because he is guy and he doesn't care or we have a age gap...
@cmal2407 (3)
• Philippines
17 Feb 09
You are quite correct in saying that one does not need a marriage certificate to feel "married". It is just a piece of paper actually. However, i feel that one should seriously consider the benefit of that piece of paper to protect the child or children the couple might have. In our society, no matter how we profess that we live in modern times, most people still believe in the sanctity of marriage. By making the relationship legal in the eyes of God and man, we are making sure that our children are protected of their rights.Also, one does not need money to get married. A civil wedding is quick and costs less, right?