Lay Off and Being Fired

@kerriannc (4279)
Jamaica
February 17, 2009 12:07pm CST
I have seen in my country and other countries as well where there are alot of companies laying off and firing their employees. The respective unions are not doing anything about this because they are saying that it is because of the Recession. But in my opinion they are doing this because there are workers in the company that they wanted to get rid of along time and now is the prefect opportunity to do it. What is your opinion about this. Do you think that these companies are really going under OR they are just using the recession as an excuse to get rid of the non productive workers? Have a Nice Day. Kerry
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
18 Feb 09
Both if you ask me. folks will do things to say well a recession is going on, and we feel that we cannot keep you because it's affecting us too. To me, that's a bunch of crap. Right here in our fair city, the Mayor just laid off about 16-18 people from their jobs, but at the same time, he just got a $24,000 increase in salary. Now, you tell me, is that necessary?
• United States
18 Feb 09
Satire om Prichard Mayor  - Recently about 16 workers were laid off from work in our city. This is the satire about it.
Just so you folks know I'm for real, I'm adding the cartoon our local satirist did on him in the Sunday paper. Peace.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
That's is really sad and to know that it is the same persons who have put him in the office. This recession has really shown electors that there representatives are cold hearted and only put their interest first. It is so good for cartoonist and newspapers that are showing these people up. Thanks for your input.
@sunil_008 (1269)
• India
18 Feb 09
Hi, i think recession is affecting the companies...and since they have not got enough project in their hand at the moment.so all these lay off drama is going on...recently 500 employees of an it major here had been given pink slips on the gate of the office while they were going to work...can you believe that!
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
hi sunil, yes there will be industry that are greatly affected than others. In my country Mining is one and the other Construction. But when you look at tourism sector laying off employees then you have to wonder because they are all book for six months before so they are protected. I am really sorry for the children who don't understand when mummy or daddy says I cannot afford this or that because they were brought up in a time when this was easily given.
@sunil_008 (1269)
• India
18 Feb 09
oh that's so terrible...i don't know much about the tourism and construction industry.but through your words can visualise the situation.since they are already booked for couple months from now.so what's the problem?don't they need people to work in this season...sounds unethical. yes,its really tough for the parents to say such things to kids...well indeed dificult time for the people in the tourism and construction sector.hope things will be better soon...
@tiohwji (133)
• Philippines
18 Feb 09
i think they are just really being affected by the recession. Some companies might be doing that( making the economic crisis as an excuse to fire the people that they don't want) but i think most of them are just doing it for cost cutting. getting rid of the non-productive workers should be done w/ or w/o economic crisis, they(non productive workers) just deserve it because i can't see any point why a company should keep a non productive employee unless they want to go bankrupt.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
I don't see the reason to have non productive workers at the workplace either but sometimes it is the same company that makes these workers become non productive. Some of these workers were at one time looking out for the company but the company was not looking out for them and so because the unions are there to back them managers are unable to pay them off. Employers need to appreciate their employees so that they continue to be that progressive workers he/she was at the beginning of employment.
• China
18 Feb 09
yes i totally agree with you,everyone talking about the recession and every bossman want to cut down their employee's salary even fire some guys he/she don't like during the past longtime.my lawoffice also talking about to cutdown the salay , what affecting would a local lawoffice have during the socalled recession? why all the bossman can't bring a kind heart and realize that the employees also do benifits to the company and even all the benifits are made from the employees?
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
Well my dear me and you maybe will not see how the recession will affect a law office but maybe they the owners see it. Can it be that Crime will decrease, persons will not be suing their employers because of non payment because these persons will not be employed. Well we never know about the minds of criminals or law abiding citizen do we. Let us pray that they will change their mind o.k.
• India
18 Feb 09
hey kerry..i think due to conomic crisis n recession heses companies ar compelled to lay off the employees but at th same time it has also given the oppurtunity which they may have been looking for some time to fullfill thier needs...means xtra advantage that no one is going to question them about that and if that happens they can blame recession...
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
hello arclite, I don't believe that companies are compelled to lay off workers. They can stagger the hours so that workers can receive a little much to tide them over. If I had a business were I have employees that is what I would do. Some managers does not have any heart and see their money decrease is a no no for them.
• China
18 Feb 09
hi,I have my own idea,in fact,the economy is now in recession,my companies is laying off workers,at the same time, in my hometown, it is also hard to find jobs for students who are going to graduating, if the company have strong potential power, they would not fire anyone. However...
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
hello caocao welcome to MYLOT yes in small hometown there are always problem where employment is concern especially for graduates. And there are times when we have to really look at these business as well because there are citizens who will prefer to go outside of the hometown and transact business instead of doing it right where they live to encourage good economic growth. When this happen then the business owners will take a stance in closing down or laying off. It is a sad situation but I hope that during this recession persons will see the ills that they did to help to contribute to the negativeness in a community.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
18 Feb 09
well, i am fortunate enough to have a job in a stable multinational company and hence not affected at all during this recession time... but i know many other unfortunate workers who are being laid off because of this economic condition... i don't think companies are making excuses to fire people off just because of the recession... if they want to get rid of the non-productive workers, they could have done it long ago and don't have to wait for recession time to do it... take care and have a nice day...
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
Thanks for your opinion but I tends to disagree because there are companies who wanted to fired workers who are unproductive but when they look at the amount of money he/she will receive they have them there hanging around. Now is the prefect time to lay off that worker or to redundant them with a small amount of money and point out that they cannot pay because of the recession. We all need to look at how they think too. We cannot live in a vacuum. Take care.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
18 Feb 09
Well, I kind of think that the recession is a valid reason to lay off workers - companies have to keep their stock market values up, and one way to do this is to show that you are cutting costs. It's unfortunate, but true. And if you are going to lay off workers, it makes sense to lay off the least productive ones.
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
17 Feb 09
I think it could be a little of both. Unions have, through the years, made it darned near impossible to get rid of slackers, which is only bad for the company and great for the workers. But, the recession is doing some serious damage to a lot of companies and they are desperate to stay afloat so they have layoffs. I hope the economy starts bouncing back soon!
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
Hi fwiddy I would like it to bounce back as well. As for the unions I don't see any benefits from it because they are not telling the workers when they are wrong. I have worked at numerous places and see the workers slack off because they have the protection of the union. These things need to look into too so that we can have a productive world. I remember when I just started to understand unions and alot of companies in Jamaica started closing down because of their demands lol. It is sad but they really need to get their acts together.
@ronnyb (6113)
• Jamaica
17 Feb 09
Good discussion Kerry ,I think that mnany companies are using recession as an excuse to fire people.Some of these workers may really be people that they have waited to get rid off from a long time but then for others its just a quick fix to cut their expenditure and improve their profits.I believe this because many of these companies never look objectively at ways to trim their inefficienci.Many of them could have trimmed the perks and expense accounts of their upper management team and then think of a phased work session before thinking of laying off workers.And another reason why I think that these firing schemes are "half baked" is that many of the remaining workers ahve to work twice as hard doing two persons work anyway and this suggests that they were needed.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
You are so correct ronny, and these workers who are doubling need to stop talking in hushtones and make these bosses see that they cannot do all the work. But as you know some people are selfish and will not say anything at all.
@Sheldon25 (193)
• Jamaica
17 Feb 09
Hi Kerry for me i think that all these companies that lay off these people can do much better. I dont know if they hated their workers or not but what i can do tell you is they only care about profits and themselves. I think these companies can afford to keep the workers cut their time and the high paid staff cut their wages. That would be better for everyone thanks that's just my views.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
And your views are greatly appreciated sheldon. You are so correct in that these companies are not thinking about the workers. I really appreciated what Berger Paints Managers and staff did t so that every workers still have a little much at the end of the week. I would encourage anyone to purchase their products even though it only sells in the christmas season. They are cut above the rest. When you look at what they have done cutting 20% from their salaries and working four days a week even though they are the hardest hit in this crisis because the construction industry as virtually closed they are really to be appreciated. I wish that others would have done the same thing too. Thanks
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
17 Feb 09
I worked for a big multi national company for nearly ten years and they would use any excuse to cut back on their spending. Even now they have annouced layoffs which they are putting down to the recession. But even when the economy was booming they were still doing the same thing with layoffs and penny pinching and hurting the ordinary worker. Ok they might need to cutback with spending and such but not at the poor employees expense In my experience the companies use the current economic climate as on excuse to cut back and they don't care what kind of effect it has on their employees.
• Singapore
18 Feb 09
Why are there companies that wanted to get rid workers long before time? 1. Non-productive workers.. - Well, of course, all of us have to agreed that during recession, they will be selected to be retrenched.. 2. highly paid management workers - ok, they are productive, but one person pay can be equivalent to 10 people pay? they will be another bunch to go.. Why on earth there are companies that will retrench people that are hard-working, productive in terms of the salary that they are getting? Yeah, i agree that lots of workers that have worked in a specific company for decades are asked to leave, but that is because usually, younger people new to working industry, expecting a lower salary are able to do their job. Love your job, not your company, you never know when your company doesnt love you!!
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
You are so right allentcl loving your job instead of the company makes you even love the things you do and not look at the pittance that you are receiving.
• China
18 Feb 09
hi Kerry, I agree with you. Maybe some of the company is real affected by the economic crisis, but there must be a part of the company take the opportunity to get rid of some workers.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
18 Feb 09
Hi sandy, every industry is crying foul and I am really wondering if they are at the bottom. There are times I wonder where are all the profits that they made over the years. Aren't it still in the bank because surely we know that there will be up and downs. In the bible there were a parable with the rich king and his downfall. So they should have cushion themselves for this down fall but it is the know fact that they don't want to be seen as a kindhearted person/company among their peers.
@sunil_008 (1269)
• India
18 Feb 09
I think recession is affecting all the companies...they are out of projects...so they are giving pink slips to the recent ones(i think)...an it company here had given pink slips to 500 of its tech employees on a single day...can you believe that...