The One Child Policy in China
By maximax8
@maximax8 (31046)
United Kingdom
February 21, 2009 9:06am CST
In a discussion a My Lot member mentioned the one child policy in China. I know that the population in China is huge and it is the governments way of trying to decrease the population. I would like to find out what happens for a married couple that already have a child when the lady has an unplanned second pregnancy. Is there any way she could have the baby? She might not agree with the idea of having an abortion. What do you think?
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15 responses
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
21 Feb 09
From what I heard, if you live in the country, you are allowed two children, but if you live elsewhere it is only one child. Many people are killing off their girl children so they can have a boy child and if the government finds that you have one child and are pregnant, what they do is to grab you and take you to a clinic or a hospital, hold you down or strap you down, and abort your child. This is usually done without an antiseptic. So if a woman is pregnant, the only way she can avoid it is to hide until the birth or escape China all together.
And they might also sterilize her as well.
The reason they have a large population was that many wealthy men had concubines. You will notice in counties were concubinage and harems were not as common, the population has not been as big.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
21 Feb 09
We heard it from the Chinese people who escaped. It was in the Christian news online and the papers. Oh Lifesite News reported it. I do not have the exact date but you can probably find out yourself. Us Christians if we lie, fear hell and damnation, so we are doubly told to tell the truth. And I am not talking about recent - of course, now it is illegal to have harems, and concubines, but think about back 500 years ago before they knew the outside world, then multiply it by the centuries.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
21 Feb 09
I think that it would be great for Mr Y and Mrs Y if they live in a country area. Do you think Chinese people move from the city the countryside in order to have two children? I would understand a second time pregnant lady hiding so she is not forced to have an abortion. The way an abortion would be performed sounds worse than really horrible. I think the force would be incredibly scary for the lady. I think the sterilizing a lad without her wishes would be awful. I was surprised to see how low Ireland's population is given the Catholic religion is common there. I live in a small country that has a population of over 58 million. Thanks for your wonderful response my friend.
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@SEPCHILD97 (55)
• China
21 Feb 09
hey,guy ,i want to tell you ,you opion "the reason they have a large population was that many wealy men had concubines" was totally wrong ,that because Chinese family has too many children before (just like my father or grandfater generation, having concubines are illegal in China). and also abortion though legal in China , not as you said they did so horrible things,if you don't really know the truth ,you'll mislead the members here.
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
22 Feb 09
As you know, it the population of China is smaller, Chinese will live a more flourish life! 20 years ago, there were no such one child policy. Thus, Chinese had been looked upon in the world! They couldn't afford most of the things they want. But now, everything changed! It means the one child policy helps a lot! A coin has two sides! Nothing is perfect, I guess! Some people do want a second child! They can have one if they want! But it is against the rules! So, the guys have to pay for it! They would be fined for some money! I don't know why lots of Chinese prefer to have a son! Since their first kid is a girl, they break the rule in order to have a son! If it turns out that they have another girl, they will try to have a son under the table another time. If things won't work out, they just do it again and again! Then, they will be fined again and again! At long last, these guys become poorer and poorer? Later, there are more guys than girls in China!
Most of the time, the thing that I mentioned happened in some rural area. Most educated parents won't do that!
Now the policy has been changed. Some people can have a second in reason if they want!
Have a nice day!
@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
22 Feb 09
As you know, if the population of China is smaller, Chinese will live a more flourish life! 20 years ago, there were no such one child policy. Thus, Chinese had been looked upon by the else world! They couldn't afford most of the things they want. But now, everything changed! It means the one child policy helps a lot! A coin has two sides; Nothing is perfect, I guess! Some people do want a second child! They can have one if they want! But it is still against the rules! So, the guys have to pay for it! They would be fined for some money accordingly!
I don't know why lots of Chinese prefer to have a son! Since their first kid is a girl, they break the rule in order to have a son regardless of all consequences! If it turns out that they have another girl, they will try to have a son under the table another time. If things won't work out either, they just do it again and again! Then, they will be fined by the goverment again and again! At long last, these guys become poorer and poorer? After that, there are more guys than girls in China! Most of the time, the thing that I mentioned happened in some rural area. Most educated parents won't do that! Now the policy has been changed. Some people can have a second kid in reason if they want! Have a nice day!
@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
22 Feb 09
Plus, no one will be forced to do the abortion! There are some iglegal test, by which they can know the kid on the way is female or male. Some parents found that they would have a daughter. So, they just gave up to give birth to her! This is stupid, I guess! I hate people with gender discrimination
@bombshell (11256)
• Germany
21 Feb 09
what i have heared if you dont follow the new rules, you will pay the big amount to the government if you want more kids.
@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
21 Feb 09
It is strictly observed. Abortion is accepted in our culture. Fining is imposed in case of violation.
But there are exceptions: Minorities are encouraged to increase their population.
In some country areas, parents with a daughter can have a second child, though single child is still encouraged with preferential policies to support their later life.
These years, young couples, if both single child, are allowed to have a second child.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
21 Feb 09
Many thanks for your fantastic response. So it would depend where the couple live. I think that it is wise to increase the number of minorities. I think abortion is horrible though. It is interesting that a couple in a country area might be able to have a second child if they have a daughter. I can see what you mean about the Chinese having preferential policies for an only child.
So if Mr Y and Mrs Y are both only children they might be able to have the second baby. If they live in a country area they should be fine with having the second pregnancy. If they live in Beijing and the wife has a sister then is it true she would be given a fine?
@victorywp (3524)
• United States
21 Feb 09
from what i understand about the one child policy in china, the rule is not towards all the citizens. it is restricted only to the ethnic han chinese living in urban areas, meaning that those living in rural & the minority tribes are not subjected to the law.
not to say if the lady has an unplanned second pregnancy, even if they knows that they are having a female infants at the first pregnancy, they would abort it before giving birth to them.
therefore, abortion is a very common thing in china. if she doesn't agree with the idea of having an abortion, they would abandon the child after giving birth to her. an unplanned second pregnancy could be secured after paying the fine.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
21 Feb 09
Thanks for your fantastic response. I think that couples in urban areas like Beijing and Shanghai would try to have just the one child. I imagine most would abort a second unplanned baby but some might pay the fine. I understand that the lady wants to have a boy. China has some unwanted girls that have been abandoned.
In country areas I think it might be more pleasant to live knowing that the one child policy is not in force there. It is fortunate that minority tribes are free to increase their population. Chinas residents face different rules depending on where the live.
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@reulin (101)
• Philippines
21 Feb 09
well i think one child policy isn't that bad coz it will not only help the government but the couple as well. bu if i'll be the government, i will at least make it a 2 child policy, why? so to refrain the reason for abortion! because many couple would want to have a large family even though they in some kind of crisis thing.
@Darkwing (21583)
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22 Feb 09
I'm not Chinese obviously, but I would have thought there was nothing anybody could do if a Chinese woman were to have a second child. Here, in England, as you know, the policy for an ideal family is 2.4 children. It would be taking away one's natural human rights if they were to make a law saying any one person could only have 2 children though, wouldnt it? What are they going to do... a King Herod and kill all the boys... there would be eternal uproar, my friend.
I would imagine that like here, if the Chinese have more than one child then it's their choice. They're not breaking any laws, although they might be frowned upon by others, I guess. Then, there would be those who understand them... especially mothers wanting more than one child.
Brightest Blessings, my friend.
@2timothy (794)
• Philippines
22 Feb 09
For couples living in urban areas, a fine estimated to equal the price of a car is imposed for a second child, couples in the rural areas are generally allowed 2 children. I read from the book, "The Heavenly Man", that the third child will be aborted and the mother's fallopian tubes surgically removed by the government. I recently read from the net that members beloging to the communist party were expelled for violating this policy.
@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
23 Feb 09
Hi maximax8! I am aware of the policy of China with enforcing such ruling. I just don't know if what will their government do if there is another second pregnancy that will accidentally occur. I have heard some people say that they will be forced to have an abortion whether they will agree to it or not but I am not sure if that is really true.
Take care and blessings to you always!
lovelots..faith
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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21 Feb 09
Hi maximax8,
I don't know how it works there, do they get goverment help? if the goverment help just one child, then they should be allowed to have the second child without goverment help, I don't think they should have an abortion.
Tamara
@Yori88 (1465)
• Philippines
22 Feb 09
I think there are a lot of people in China who do not agree with one-child policy. It is a way of suppressing their freedom to have more than one child. In that case you mentioned, if there is an unplanned pregnancy or even planned I think the baby should still have the right to be born. Every individual has the right to decide on how many children they want to have. But since China wants to lessen its population maybe those who don't have child yet should be the one covered by the policy. For those who have already one child then they should also obey unless there will be a change in their country's law. I am also pro-life but what can we do if the law has been implemented? Maybe they could appeal to their government if they still want more or just migrate to other countries where they can have more kids.
@melonut (6)
• China
22 Feb 09
I think your topic isn't very exact to some extent because our country's birth control policy can't simplely be equal to one child policy.In fact,just couples in a few provinces are limited to give birth to only one child.Other provinces have quite complicated rules.It's totally based on different situations of different areas.
@juliotostado (168)
• Chile
21 Feb 09
I think they have to pay an extra guvernamental tax for having 2 children, not so sure but as far as I heard its like that
@SEPCHILD97 (55)
• China
21 Feb 09
i am the second child under this one child policy,my mom decided to let me to see this beautiful world ,of course my mom & dad need to pay some money as punishment.for you question ,i think it depends on parents.no one want to give up their lovely children .