What is the point of being married?
By paula27661
@paula27661 (15811)
Australia
March 2, 2009 12:25am CST
A new law has just been passed in Australia giving defacto couples the same rights as married couples in the event of a separation which entitles the non- married people to child maintenance and property settlement rights etc...
I appreciate that if two people have been together for many years in the same home and possibly raised children together in the event of a split they should be looked after from a legal point of view.
This brings a question to mind; what is the point of being legally married? Is marriage just a way for a woman to legally change her name? If there are no legal advantages is marriage just symbolic nowadays? What do you think?
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38 responses
@Gemini_7000 (358)
• United States
2 Mar 09
Marriage is a union under God that should not be entered into lightly..
Mariage at one time really ment something, ya know.. traditional - nowadays it just seems like it's something for bored people to do..
If people think marriage is a way to keep the man or woman faithful to one another then they need to stop and think again..
I do however strongly believe that a couple should be married BEFORE they have children.. but then nowadays, again, it just doesn't seem to matter and this is what our children are growing up on.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
I know what you mean. The order of the way things have always been done e.g. getting engaged, marrying and having children has somewhat changed! I agree that marriage is a sacred union but I guess what really counts at the end of the day is a household full of love. Thank you for a lovely response!
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@carrine (2743)
• Philippines
3 Mar 09
a lifetime commitment, however many marriages outhere does not long last, so not a lifetime commitment already.
before deciding to get married, think many many times if you are totally ready to commit to your partner, surrender everything for him/her. and if you are ready for the responsibilities to have a family.. actually getting married is not an easy decision. evaluate yourself first before deciding to get married.
thats why till now im single. hahahhaah
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
30 Jun 11
Makes perfect sense. You are a wise soul! Making the decision to share your entire life with another forever is not one to make lightly. Sadly too many do not take the commitment seriously enough... Thanks for stopping by carrine, appreciate it!
@rmorefield (941)
• United States
2 Mar 09
I have asked that same question to the people who criticize me for not being married. My b/f and I have been together for about 7 years now. (That is him in the pic with our daughter) We are more committed to each other than most of the married people I know. We have one daughter, who is 13 months old, and will be having a son in about 3-4 weeks. I was married previously for about 5 years. My husband at the time had a different girlfriend every week, or so it seemed. I don't see the point in signing that piece of paper. God knows how we feel about each other. We have both made our vows. Our neighbor is a preacher. We just aren't tied to each other by a government document. What is the point? I think it is 1)totally symbolic, and 2)a way for the government to get more tax money out of us. As far as a woman changing her name, I don't think you need to be married to do that. I think you can change your name at any time (for about $15) if you so wish. You just have to have a valid reason.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 Mar 09
that is how i feel about it all. I would not get married again...not ever. It is all about money. It costs a lot to get into and a lot to get out of. Sure there are some benefits (money) if you do stay together...I really never cared about those things anyway.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
It's an individual's choice. As I mentioned before, love is what counts at the end of the day; a household full of love is the most important. It is up to the couple how important being married is to them. I just wish that some people would take the commitment to love one another whether it's by marriage or not, more seriously and treat is as the sacred act that it is.
I am pleased rmorefield that you have a loving and stable relationship, congratulations on your new baby; your little daughter is gorgeous! Thanks for sharing!
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
29 Jun 11
Personally there is a lot of good to this law. Because even though I am for a couple marrying and making things legal in writing, and Sacred to god, there are a lot of people out there who choose to live together, end up having children and then when one leaves except for a little bit of child support the other person is looked at as they have no more ties. How can they really be able to just leave and not take into consideration children, etc. as well. I think everywhere should do this, because once you bring a child into this world you are a parent until the day you die. Problem becomes when people do not want to accept this.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
12 Jul 11
Yes, too many times people get married or live together bringing kids into this world, and then when they end up not getting along they continue to fight and one person insists on taking the kids constantly bad mouthing the other one to where the child looses out in the end. I wish more people could step up to the plate when they choose to become a parent and be held accountable for sure.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Jul 11
Once children come along it is a life long commitment and that includes both parents. In my opinion if you care for your children, you will care for the other parent of that child. I agree that it is way too easy not to take such a commitment seriously. Thanks KrauseHome.
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@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I always thought that marriage was two people making a commitment to each other - in front of witnesses - that you want to spend the rest of your life with this person. Of course some couples don't last very long - others last a lifetime. It isn't easy to live with another person and get used to all of their intimate details. However I believe for most people it is also bears a religious significance and that would be the major difference between couples and marriages.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Mar 09
Marriage is a choice for couples, it means more to some than it does to others. As long as people are seriously commited to each other; I guess that is the most important thing. I appreciate your response!
@yasgilam (6)
• Philippines
2 Mar 09
We are taught in our Sunday school that marriage is a way of building your own kingdom. Being with someone that God has destined you to be with, and no one should separate you. Being married isn't just being legal in the eyes of men, but in the eyes of God. He is the one who truly united you, not any law, or document
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
That is a beautiful way to look at it! Thank you!
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@Professor2010 (20162)
• India
4 Jul 11
Marriage is a divine concept, i had a friend from Philippines, she was in mylot, she lived many years with a man from your country, we used to communicate via email, she used to tell me about his brutal behavior, but now she is not seen, many negetive thinkings do come, can you help me trace her, i can give you her picture and email id..
Thanks for sharing
God bless you, have a nice day ahead.
Professor ‘@Bhuwan@’. .
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Jul 11
I agree that marriage is a divine concept as you say and I am sorry your friend has endured abuse from an Australian man. I am nor certain I know her but if you PM me more details I will double check.
@mansha (6298)
• India
3 Mar 09
May times a woman is left with child and the man refuses to take any responsibility may be getting amrriage legalised was the way to assure that the women and the child will be well cared for and man will stay true to the one who has born him a kid. otherwise a woman is left abused and brusied. Same isfor the man so that woman and man both share a home and family and provide a well balanced environment to raise kids and bring some kind of balance to the sciety. May be this rule has now assured that even if you choose to not to marry the father of the child or have been a relationship without marriage for long you are not let high and dry midfway through your life. I welcome this law as it assures greater justice in the changing patterns of the society's fabric.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
4 Mar 09
I agree. It is protection for all involved regardless of whether you are married or not, surely that can't be bad. Thanks for replying.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Mar 09
In our country where live in is still to get a status, I think marriage is the answer to the fulfillment of love and belonging, a nurture of good relationship and having a family. But where you could get almost equal benefits and rights, I think it just comes to the individual's choice and preference. Marriage is beautiful and so is living together and it could both be not so good! In simple words, I think its subjective and each of us must have the right to choose their life.
As long as love, respect, belonging, trust and all that it takes to live a beautiful life together are there, nothing can stop us from get going and being happy.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
It is subjective as you say. As long as a couple is committed the union is sacred. It is a personal choice. Beautifully put, thank you.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
2 Mar 09
This is an interesting topic. More and more people have concluded that there is no longer any point in 'holy wedlock'. In the present day social climate, there has been a clear and continuing increase in the number of couples who no longer feel any need to get married in order to establish a stable relationship - one that most of them usually intend to last for the rest of their lives. By the same token, those who do decide to live together without marrying are no longer subject to anything like the stigma they would have been a generation ago. I see that those who get married for the sake of marriage do so as it is 'tidier' legally. Otherwise with or without papers the law is there to honour paperless union.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
It is the individual couple's choice and yes it is important to have guidelines and legal protection either way. Thanks!
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 Mar 09
I personally don't see the big deal in being married but legally there are more advantages to it. If you are married legally then you can collect on your partners social security benefits if one of you passes. If you are not legally married, you can not. If you are not legally married and something happens to your partner, you don't have the same property rights as you would if you were married. In the material sense it does make a difference. Also, If you aren't married and say if your partner becomes ill or gets hurt and is in the hospital...they won't give you any info on his/her status for confidentiality reasons unless you are family and you are not. If your are not married and children are born of the relationship....they do treat it pretty much the same. Property...if BOTH your names are attached...yes, it will be treated fairly. If you get a house together and your name is not on that deed...you will have a court battle to get your fair share if you split...you'd have to prove yourself.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
The legal side of things can be quite complicated. I have not looked into them but the new laws passed here should make it easier for those who are not married (I hope.) Love and commitment are what counts most of all. Thanks for a good response!
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@dorisday1971 (5657)
• Philippines
2 Mar 09
I also don't get the point of that new law. in our country, the law for legally married and for those living in as husband and wife are different. the marriage being sacred is also protected by our law.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
I don't understand much about any law to be quite honest and as I said to another MyLotter I have not looked into them so I am hoping these new laws are in place for everyone's protection regardless of whether people are married or not. Thanks for taking the time to respond!
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
4 Mar 09
Times have certainly changed. A lot of couples still choose to marry though. Thanks!
@worldbestwriter2008 (1633)
• Philippines
2 Mar 09
hehehe, the point in getting married is to have a family in your own...to live legally and to stick with one partner..if you are not married then your partner is free to find another partner...then it's not good to see in the public having lots of wives having lots of partner..a relationship together should be blessed
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
2 Mar 09
I can see what you mean and I agree and I am really hoping these new laws will benefit all involved especially children. Thanks for responding!
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
27 Mar 09
As they say marriages are made in heaven and the live in together is pure sin . Well if Australia wants it this way that they shouldnt be encouraging marriage then it is up to them. Unless you are married you dont have much incentive to work for your relationships and when kinks appear in relationship then work hard to smothen them. In live ins you can say bye very easily and if law gives you all the rights then it would be more easy to say bye in live in as you know you wont be at any disadvantage and who knows if tomorrow a much handsome man comes along and it is bye bye..in marriage you have stability and you dont have to look ur best at 6 am daily because in live in u know if u dont then a better guy or girl is just around the corner and if the guy is loaded then the more beautiful girl is even closer than the corner.. pls dont take this last sentence as something a comment on female or males but it can be truth .
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
27 Mar 09
I believe in the sanctity of marriage and as a married person I value it very much and I'm glad I chose to marry. It is not for everyone and as far as the new laws; one way to look at it is that at least there is some protection especially as far as children are concerned in defacto relationships. Unfortunately, these days it seems to be just as easy to call it quits even if you are married! Thanks for responding I appreciate it!
@quinnkl (1667)
• United States
4 Mar 09
We have the same thing in the US. Some states still have it on law books, it is called common law marriage here. If you are together over 7 yrs in our state you are "legally" married. I have never seen the point of being married. People who believe in it because of their religious beliefs I understand, but otherwise to me it makes no sense and never has. I don't see any reason for it. I know couples who have been together much longer than others and they did not marry while other married and divorced several times. So I think it all comes down to what you feel is best and works for you as a person.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Mar 09
I agree with you, it is an individual choice. It's all about how committed you are.
Thanks!
@bombshell (11256)
• Germany
8 Mar 09
i married because i love him and i want to have my own happy family.and i dont want to be alone when i get oolder.
@ank_47 (1959)
• India
28 Mar 09
Marriage can be a wonderful thing that brings you a lifetime of happiness and blessings. OR it CAN be miserable. It's all about knowing yourself, knowing what you want, and finding that person who sees love and marriage the same way as you do. Then the best you can do is commit to working hard every day. Alot of people think marriage is just easy. It takes WORK to not let the everyday things take all the romance out of your marriage. You have to actively do things for one another so you both feel loved. People who say "i do" then go into coast mode don't make it.
now a days people don't have patience anymore for love and they give up to easily. loves not worth fighting for anymore because temporary love is found everywhere and anywhere.people never know what a good thing they have until they lose it and need it then they want to work it out in the end those with the weak and greedy hearts.
Perhaps they enjoy the single life. men enjoy meeting many different types of woman, having extra spending money in pocket and enjoy not dealing with anyone when you come home. Marriage will just slow down your lifestyle and force you to be with one woman the rest of your life. How boring is that?
Laws relating to family rights and duties, or to the status, condition and legal capacity of persons are binding upon citizens of any country, even though living abroad.This can lead to complications regarding distribution of conjugal property, inheritance rights, etc.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
28 Mar 09
Thanks for the excellent response. Too many people get very excited at the prospect of a wedding but don't give enough thought to the marriage part. You are right it does take work and commitment. Thanks again.
@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
3 Mar 09
There just isn't a one set answer to this now a days. One never really knows why they didn't get married in the first place. I would hope to think that those that choose to marry, that they did because they loved each other, and that they wanted to take the vows of marriage and to stick by them, and to share each others lives together.
The ones that choose to live together with out the bonds of marriage, I have no idea why now they are getting legal rights.
Who makes all of these decisions.
great topic.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
3 Mar 09
I know. I am an open minded person and although personally I prefer to be married I appreciate that it is not so important for some. What prompted me to start the discussion was the fact that I began to wonder whether marriage has become just a symbol these days. I suppose if two people love each other and are committed to their family that is the most important thing. To each their own!
@MaryLynn321 (2680)
• United States
3 Mar 09
right I hear you. I don't know what the answer is either. Like you said to each his own.
Hugs
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I wish the US would make a law like this. I think that the government has too much say so in marriage. I think that too many people put more stock in that piece of paper than into the true heart of the matter. I know lots of people that were legally married and misrable because they did it for all the wrong reasons. And, I know a lot of people that never married but have been in a commited relationship for years with one person and are completely happy. Also, I think that a law like that would stop some guys from this annoying habit of dating women that have a house and car so they can move in for as long as they like and then move on. The woman thinks it's a huge deal that he moved in, but he is just looking for a free place to live. I would demand that the man living with me take on the role of a husband. That means all the 'traditianal' ideals of the bread winner and all that. I can make money too, but I have to know that I'm being loved, not being used.
@tea512 (687)
• United States
3 Mar 09
wow dismalgrim that is a lot to take on at one time you are right, but the things you think are wrong have nothing to with the government, more to do with the person. I think you will find people who get themselves used as you say seen it all along and would not change a thing. I agree that government and people put too much stock in a piece of paper and many love and marry for thr wrong reasons. This topic could go 100 different ways so it is a good one. i cannot wait to read your responses.
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
3 Mar 09
Whoops, it would seem that I went off on a ramble that had nothing to do with my first sentences. Sorry. I agree with you there, the bottom part of my response has nothing to do with the government. What I was refering to with the government is when on earth did that start anyway? I mean didn't it used to be that the community would recognize the couple as married or not. Or the church did. Depending on your religious preferance. I don't see how having a piece of paper filed at the courthouse would make you 'more married' than just simply commiting your life to someone. I think that true marriage is in the heart and you can be legally bound to someone all you want, but if you aren't commited to making it work... then what is the marriage of that? It would be my opinion that whatever made the government decide to become involved with marriages was probably not with the purest of intentions. Because it would seem to me, that it had more to do with the idea that we could 'force' certain people to be together and certain people to stay away from eachother and make it ilegal to do things any other way. But, it would deffinatly be something worth looking into. I think.
@tjsally (287)
• China
4 Mar 09
In my view, marriage is the proof of loving. When you decide to married with your lover, it means you can able to bear the responsibility, have the ability to love a person, have the ablility to make your life beautiful. Marriage is a milestone in everyone's life. It is symbolic a person's mature.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Mar 09
I like the symbol of marriage and what it represents. Appreciate the response!