Should a myLot discussion be a place to rant?
By maezee
@maezee (41988)
United States
March 8, 2009 10:54pm CST
I'm growing tired of these "discussions" where there is absolutely no room to discuss ANYTHING, it is simply the discussion-starters way of getting their opinions and frustrations out there for the world to see. Not to say that I don't get frustrated and rant (and hopefully this discussion isn't me contradicting myself ), but I think rants should be reserved for blog entries rather than discussions, where a response is expected.
Do you agree with me?
Does this also frustrate you? What's your opinion on the matter?
Have you ever written a discussion like this? If so, what's your justification for it?
Thanks in advance, guys!
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29 responses
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
9 Mar 09
As I've pointed out in other threads of this nature, yes, you are being contradictory lol. However, I can complete understand the frustration. I also don't understand the types of discussions where people just put out long articles with no discussion questions. Mind you, I've started things based upon articles I've written but I always add in some starter questions to get the discussion going. If all you want to do is write your opinion and state it's gold then that should be on one's own blog or web page.
I also agree that if all you want to do is be negative but not have a discussion then perhaps you should keep it to yourself. I mean, it's one thing to start a vent or rant in which you want to hear other people's stories, or even get advise on how to handle something, but to just rant well take it to the blog.
Another thing that I've noticed recently is that there are many who want to complain or rant, yet don't like the suggestions. Just the other day several of us gave wonderful advise to a woman who asked for it, who blasted all of us for giving her advise and then telling us how we were wrong, she was right, and how she then found out from another she was right. I'm thinking, why did you ask in the first place?
Ok, I'll end my small rant on your rant.
Have a good one!
Anora
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Thanks, you make some good points. I think it's fine if people want to share their stories, frustrations, and experiences, but they should be welcoming of others' stories, advice, or experiences, too, right? It's a little weird to post a discussion and not welcome responses with open arms. Thanks for responding!
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@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Mylot is a community where we can support our friends and let them rant and then help them through what is bothering them. Rants don't bother me. I'm of the mind here that there is so much on this site that if it's a post that I'm not interested in I also have the choice to move on and ignore that, wether it be a discussion on ice cream or a rant or a bible thumping discussion. We all have something to say about something. Heck answering passionately in a discussion can be considered a rant if you really think about it. I will say this yes I have ranted and I have always had a question at the end of my rants but here is the thing I don't force anyone to read them it's entirely up to the user who sees it wether they want to read it or not... So my advice to you is if you see a rant discussion and you know you don't like them don't bother with it and yeah I would consider this a rant about rants, but with questions at the end to make more of a discussion so yep you did a contradiction. Have a nice one and remember there are plenty of user that start discussions that aren't rants go and travel through and find what ya like.
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
9 Mar 09
Yea, same thought here! If someone needs to rant, we let them and try to comfort them or offer coo-coo where need be.
If any member doesn't like those ranting discussions, just have them skip those and find ones that are more suitable for their taste.
Cheers!
@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I think the types of discussions I was referring to are ones that don't inspire discussions to take place. At least with my discussion here, I've obviously tried to involve other people, by asking questions and asking people to share their opinions and experiences (otherwise I wouldn't have gotten 20+ responses, would I?)
I know that there are plenty of people who don't do this, I just wanted to touch base about the few people who seem to do this on a non-stop basis. I know it's not something I should be getting irritated about, but it seems like these people should rant in their blog or in a more private place - especially if they aren't accepting of the responses they receive.
@modstar (9605)
• Philippines
9 Mar 09
I highly agree with you. No offense but if you noticed, most of them are seniors here in myLot. It could be that they've gone tired of the usual thing that it has become a boring routine for them. You're right, there are blogs to put their rants into place. Posting it here makes it limited only to the people who know them. The problem here is, we can't relate to what they are talking about.
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@modstar (9605)
• Philippines
19 Mar 09
Not really entitled but "feel entitled". Of course they would defend themselves by saying "hey i've been here long before you've heard about myLot" then would gain sympathy from followers. Again no offense to pioneers! Only applicable to some.
@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I agree, or it seems as though because they've been here for so long - and have reached a certain number of posts, they're entitled to share their worldly opinion with the rest of us. *shrugs*. Thanks for responding! And I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who this is irking..
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@sandymay48 (2030)
• Canada
9 Mar 09
Hi maezee...Yes you are ranting about people ranting...but you are honest about it.....and no, it doesnt bother me at all..I guess if some people are comfortable displaying personal problems, then thats the way they are. But if they are going to do this, they should ask some constructive questions so we the readers, know exactly what it is they are looking for an answer to. There have been times I have read a post and then said to myself...wow..what part did they want an answer to? If theres no question, then we cant supply an answer.
Lots of things that make people angry could become good discussions if worded as one and not as you say, like they are just getting their frustrations out.
See, even you added questions!
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@Mystic_Dragon (89)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I think it is okay to "rant" or share an experience that really irked you. Lot's of people need to do so to help vent the fustration they are feeling. They just need to say what is on their mind and here is a safe place to do it. I do not think it is okay to start a discussion of this type and not expect or want replies. Heavens, that is what we are here for. We like to share and comment. To start a post of this nature and not want replies really belies what MyLot is about.
@skydancer (2101)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I have never written a discussion like this personally. I just never felt this was the right sort of place to do so. Some people obviously do, however, and it has never bothered me. If I find the discussion to be pointless and unstimulating, or just not an issue I would have time to give any thought and respond to properly, then I can easily skip over it; it is really no big deal.
Granted, as I just finished saying, these were never the types of discussions that I am good at responding to; usually the only discussions I join where the topic starter draws from personal experience are those that seem to have a clear point to them.
I suppose some people do this in search of solace or advice on a particular matter, and if they have friends here whose word they can trust, then it would make sense to me why they would bring the matter to MyLot.
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
9 Mar 09
Hi maezee,
Should it, should it not?
Why not? I think myLot should be a free platform for anything at all. If someone wants to post serious topics, so be it. If frivolous topics are the trend, relax and enjoy. If someone wants to rant, let her go ahead and let loose some team.
Yes I agree that for some of those ranting discussions, there seems to be nothing for you to talk about. So be it. Don't try to force something if you can't think of anything to say. Let's put it this way... that discussion was not posted for you. So just search around till you find another of "your" discussion.
That's why I do too. Not every discussion is for "me" but there will be some posted for "me". Just be sure to find those and respond as you wish.
For those posting ranting discussions in particular, it could be that they are having a bad hair day and hope for some comfort or sympathy. We all have our down times and I do chip in with my listening ear when I am able. You never know when you need to rant yourself and appreciate any who would listen.
Cheers!
@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
10 Mar 09
Hi again maezee,
Don't feel bad at all.
We all have our bad hair days and some of us have them often and for long periods. So if you need to rant, I would say go ahead if ranting in a discussion here makes you feel better.
If you just don't like those discussions, just skip them. After all, there are so many discussions yet you only respond to a certain few (even if you have all the time) so this can only mean it is harder to find something you like than dislike. So why bother about ranting when it is just part of those you ignore?
Have fun!
@gerald_lian (2188)
• Australia
9 Mar 09
To be honest, I don't really mind if a myLot discussion is a rant, just as long as the rant doesn't violate any myLot rules and regulations. I strongly feel that there are many stresses in life that we have to let out of our bodies and minds, and putting them into words on myLot can help ease that stress and tension a bit. Besides, it's always nice to find a supportive community that can give advice and encouragement in the time that we need it most. So yeah, we shouldn't keep things bottled up because it's not good for us; we should let it out and share with everyone who is willing to lend a listening ear......
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@Bethany1202 (3431)
• United States
9 Mar 09
It doesn't bother me at all. This is a community where we can "discuss" anything. Perhaps someone is ranting and someone else can relate. Certainly there would be room for THEM to comment about a similar experience THEY had...
Sometimes people just need to get things out of their system, and what better avenue than to rant on a social community such as MyLot? (better than going postal, right?!)
@ivan2000bd (1009)
• Sweden
9 Mar 09
i dont know what to say? but in some where you are right. we need much more room to share our frustrations. we can also find some other options.
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I guess so. I don't mind when people share their frustrations, but at least they should leave room for discussion to be had; such as asking others what THEIR opinions on the matter are, and be open to different ideas and arguments. Oh well. Thansk for responding!
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@misslovelyfiles (250)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I really don't mind the rant because some people need to let out some frustration jst like your kinda doing with this discussion topic lol. If I see I can't discuss anything then I simply don't respond to anything. You don't have to respond to the discussion if you think it's a rant or you just don't like the topic being discuss.
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I know I don't have to respond if I don't like it or don't want to, but I don't think that was the point I was getting to. But oh well. Again, I like discussions where there is actually room to discuss things & where the discussion-starter is open-minded enough to accept other myLotter's experiences and opinions.
@kbmsaylor (94)
• United States
9 Mar 09
its ok to come on here and vent. i've done it. but as long as you can leave room for someone to respond back to you. or ask questions while you are venting so that someone might have the chance to respond back. i've wrote one that i can remember that was really venting, and that was on the whole issue with my coworker not using a carseat. only because i was frustrated the law wouldnt do anything, so i wanted to see what other people thought about it, and if they had any other ideas on what i could do. i think it's ok to vent. if you are not screaming out to someone on here lol .
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@emilie2300 (1882)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Okay so maybe they can open up a Ranting Interest and let people rant in there and people can post coments or suggestions to there ranting or venting in that disscussion area. Thats a suggestion.
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@emilie2300 (1882)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Oh of course not I didnt mean that in a mocking term. I was kind of afraid to type it that way. Because I didnt want you to think that I was just trying to give a idea for this site. I think it be a grate I dea for people to have ranting as an interest and post it there then if people want to comment on other peoples rantings they can. We should suggest this. I think it be great
@stacyv81 (5903)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I dont mind them, you just ranted, and yet you left questions, and an opening for a discussion. I rant, with questions at the end, like have you ever felt this way, etc, in the same way you just did.
So I dont think there is an issue...now if it is a rant with no question, I believe it would be against the rules, otherwise LET IT OUT PEOPLE!!
LOL!! =)
@stacyv81 (5903)
• United States
9 Mar 09
well there doesnt necessarily HAVE to be but otherwise there isnt really anything you can answer, and isnt that the point of a discussion. When you post one you gotta give people something to go on when it comes to a discussion.
Whether that is in the form of a question, or just a way to get people talking about something, otherwise I agree with the poster, you should blog if you cant find a way to get a response thats all.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
9 Mar 09
why does there have to be an obvious question at the end of a discussion in order for people to discuss it
where in the rules does it say that all discussions must end in obvious questions?
@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I think it's important to have open-ended questions at the end of discussions so that people can relate it to their own experiences and contribute their own opinions rather than just discuss the one person's experience. I think this makes it more interesting and is certainly a "friendlier" thing to do. It kind of gives off a bad vibe when someone writes an entire discussion entirely about themselves and doesn't bother to ask others what they think. It might not be in the rules, but I think it should be a myLot etiquette of some sort.
@benhilo (871)
• Tripoli, Libya
10 Mar 09
It seems that any meaningful discussions are very rarely answered if not outright ignored. If anything, it bothers me that we see the same old thing over and over again. But that is the nature of the site as long as people look at it as just a place to make money. I try at times to start meaningful discussions but the most responses I ever got was 5 most times its "0". So most of my responses are in the news section.
@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
9 Mar 09
I understand where you're coming from. It doesn't really bother me, if a discussion is too long then I won't even bother reading it. I also appreciate when people put a little warning about it being a long rant. What actually bothers me more is when you get the feeling that people are posting their big, long, one sided rant just so people will tell them they're right and give them some kind of confirmation. That's what bugs me with personal rants in a forum like this, it's really not fair to the other side when you only get to hear from the one.
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I agree with you; I think we share the same opinion, only you can word yours in a way-better way that I can without offending people. . I don't like one-sided rants or discussion of any kind, because they aren't truly discussion then (if that makes sense). Thanks for responding!
@frozenimage (464)
• United States
9 Mar 09
maybe mylot should have a shout box?
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@mpsingh08 (102)
• India
9 Mar 09
I don't think it is okay to start a discussion of this type and not expect or want replies. I like to share and comment.
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@ljbinkop (744)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Hi Maezee! I can totally see your point on the ranting discussions. I prefer a discussion that offers a story or throws an opinion out there, and then allows for actual responses and a back and forth "conversation" between MyLotters, so those are the one I look for the most, and those are the ones I try to start.
I will say though, that in a forum such as this, it is OK to rant. That is what this site allows for, too, and if someone wants to take the time and energy to write their opinion down, I say let them. The problem with doing that kind of discussion is that it really goes nowhere and no one really learns anything from it, other than how to type faster.
Thanks for your question, I am done my rant now.
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
9 Mar 09
lol, thank you for ranting to me in my rant about rants. . You, along with most of the other people who have responded to this discussion, are absolutely right. I think I was a little tee-d off when I started this discussion because of something someone messaged to me after responding to their "rant" discussion, which was totally rude and uncalled for. I wasn't trying to stereotype people, but I think that if people want to share their experiences and rant about certain things, they should be open (and welcoming) of other people's opinions and experiences, too, rather than just making a whole discussion about themselves (it seems kind of self-centered, doesn't it? Like they don't want to hear anyone else's experiences?).
Thanks for responding!