living together vs getting married...
By liaamur
@liaamur (417)
Philippines
March 10, 2009 11:59am CST
i am surrounded by married people getting separated, and divorce has quite become handy nowadays. however, just when i distrust true love there comes an example of a lasting one--someone celebrating their 32nd (happy) anniversary, people who just grow old together.
question:
is getting married really necessary; has it become merely 'having a wedding', or is it a prerequisite to declaring to the world that you love the person you married?
has living together become more reliable, despite the fact that one (woman/man) ABSOLUTELY has no legal claim over the other?
i am blessed with a hubby who loves me, and whom i KNOW holds the title to my heart. but i can't help to think that it is, after all, what i know and am sure about AS OF THE MOMENT. how many times has a couple gotten married only to fall in love with another, when it is too late? (divorce here is not in existence, and annulment is basically sealed off)
i guess the thing there is to remember that you love each other and keep holding on to what made you fall in love.
but then again...
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24 responses
@DancingRedFeather1 (1037)
• Canada
10 Mar 09
The real problem is that people have turned away from the One who celebrated the very first marriage God! People have stopped reading their Bibles and following what God gave as a guide to a happy marriage. People now get married with already..if it doesn't work out..there is always divorce.
@liaamur (417)
• Philippines
11 Mar 09
noted biblical persons also have more than one 'union'. abraham fathered sons from more than one wife, and so did jacob. so this kind of confuses me a little bit. i know that the bible indicates marriage as something instituted by god, that husband and wife should remain together for life. if that is the case, what sarah did--giving her handmaid to abraham--which was followed by rachel and leah (both wives, at the same time) to jacob not a violation of the marriage? if a couple were to keep the marriage vows, is it important to note that 'i shall stay with you for as long as you live, but not necessarily be in love with you during that time'?
@DancingRedFeather1 (1037)
• Canada
11 Mar 09
In the begining it was allowed because there wasn't many people on earth and it had to be populated, so it was allowed to have more than one wife and if the wife couldn't have a child, they could take a maid servant or a slave.
I will find out why it was changed..when Jesus said that his followers must only be with one woman. God in his infinite love knows what he is doing even if we don't always understand. Whatever he does is for our welfare as we know best for our children because we are the parent..so as God is our parent, our creater and we his children, then he knows best for us. Logic yes?
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@gicolet (1702)
• United States
10 Mar 09
It is sad that the world of married people had come to separations and divorces for a lot of couples. Living together and being married have their upside and downside. With living together it's the happiness that counts. With being married it's the security that matters most. I like being married cause it gives me the feeling that I belong to someone, the legality of all of it from being the legal wife with the kids legitimate. With living together there could be some thought that the other person can still look for a better partner and if they separate it could be sad if there are kids involved. Some celebrities that are not married are obviously happy - Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russel, Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt....but there are a lot of married couples who are happy too - Tom Hanks and his wife (forgot her name), Sean Penn and Robin Wright....so I think it really depends on how 2 people handle their relationship. It think it will be fair and safe to not allow statistics affect our own personal beliefs.
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@DancingRedFeather1 (1037)
• Canada
11 Mar 09
Also men and women in live-in situations more than often keep acting like they are single. My grand daughter is in that situation and he keeps acting as if he is single. I told her, as long as you don't marry him, he will, why, because he isn't bonded to you before God. He doesn't feel responsible therefore acts as if he is single and you are his girlfriend..
@liaamur (417)
• Philippines
11 Mar 09
yes, i like what you said about happiness for living together and security in marriage. but these wonderful things that come with each relationship setup is, i think, also the downside (to say the least) for each of them.
if a couple lives happily together, why will they not legally bind to each other? is the security of legal bonds the reason why there are illicit--and mostly looked down upon--affairs?
arrgh, i think i'm crazy.
@Jae2619 (1483)
• United States
11 Mar 09
I have been with my "husband" for 10 years, though we've never walked down that isle, we are happily married. We are connected in the same ways that a real married couple are. Walking down the isle, and signing that piece of paper isn't gonna make, me or him love each other more. We are what we are. People always tell us that we need to go on and get married, but our saying is why try and fix something that's not broken. We are totally happy with the way we live, and that's what works for us.
@katsalot1 (1618)
•
10 Mar 09
I am 49 and have never wished to get married. I have seen so many people happy together until they get married, then it all falls apart. I think it is entirely an individual decision - everyone is different. I have been with my 'husband' for 21 years now, and we have had a very happy, strong relationship without being married. I am concerned about how marriage is viewed nowadays - when you hear people talking about getting married, it always seems to be focussing on the 'day' and the money, not about love.
@bellelune86 (1)
• United States
25 Sep 11
This is for Katsalot1. I see why you don't want to get married. But did you read those other comments? now you are happy with your boyfriend, because if you not married, he is not your husband and that is in front of God and the law. And secondly, if something were to happen to your boyfriend, you would not be allowed to take anything or even live in the house if you don't own it. You'll be lucky if your boyfriend don't have any family, but if he does then i'll feel sorry for you because you'll lose everything.
@ljbinkop (744)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I am in two minds about living together versus getting married, and I lean towards the idea that it is OK for a couple to live together before they get married. I think if you are seriously involved with someone, and not just some fly by the seat of your pants short term relationship, it is OK to try living together first. It is really hard to live with someone, even if you are in live with them, and if you know that you can co-habitiate, I think you have a better shot at making the marriage thing work.
I for example, lived with my husband for about a year and a half before we got married, and we have been together for 10 years now. It worked for us, which does not mean it can work for anyone, but I thinkwe are doing pretty well in the grand scheme of thinkgs.
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@liaamur (417)
• Philippines
11 Mar 09
i am very glad to hear that. i am blessed with a husband whom i know loves me. living together is indeed getting very serious. let us hope that things work out for everyone, though. no woman should suffer the burden of the breakup after a long living-together relationship.
@searchingwithin (31)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I have gone down the living together route, and never again. Marriage, to me, is total commitment to your partner and your relationship, and a declaration to the World that you have chosen that person as your lifelong partner, and they are no longer game in open season.
Living together is not commitment, it's a live-in friends with benefits, and consists of; maybe this relationship and this person, is NOT the one.
Two different mindsets. One is going in with the mindset of commitment and this will last into eternity, and the other is going in with the mindset that it may not work, and one foot already out the door.
Love is a seed that needs tending, watering and fertilizing.
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@liaamur (417)
• Philippines
11 Mar 09
thanks for pointing that out, and i agree that living together--for the woman's sake--is definitely against her. i have noted some cons for 'living together', and most of them is not beneficial to the woman (from a woman's point of view): she invests herself physically, financially, and emotionally which could probably the biggest reason for her destruction, should the relationship not work out.
however, commitment is, for me, a state of mind. marriage as i see it these days has become a mere piece of paper, a contract with the law, a claim to your husband. there is no intention of putting down marriages as i am married myself, but we could not deny that it has become like that nowadays, for majority of people. sometimes i think that when you commit yourself to one person and one person alone, when you declare your love to that person, when you devote your life to living with that person from one point forward, you don't really need to gather everybody else. it is a covenant between yourself and god, that you will love--and keep that love--for as long as you are alive.
still, though...
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
12 Mar 09
I guess its our society and religion has dictated to set this institution called marriage. I think they did that to make out society orderly during those days where we need to set our boundaries or ownership of a partner. It has evolve now into a much more complicated partnership though since it was first thought or.
In my opinion, if you want to make your partnership acceptable in the eyes of your society then legitimate your partnership by marriage. In making that decision you should also see if love, commitment and also financial readiness is present before jumping into it.
Living together kind of partnership is also very much tolerable nowadays especially when you are living in a non conservative place like in the US and any western country. They do tolerate those kind of partnership maybe because of the change practicality of it. For as long as your partnership does not affect in any way how the society as a whole, they can function normally. For as long as there is an unwritten agreement that you will love each other then I think society should not do anything against that partnership.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
12 Mar 09
I think that the reason divorce has become so popular is b/c ppl rush into a marriage without taking the time to really get to know that person. I know that the Bible speaks against "living in sin" but it also speaks against divorce.
My Hubby and I lived together for 6 years before we decided to marry. We faced alot of major battles in that 6 years...he became disabled, we had severe financial problems, his family, my family, his ex-wife, we lost a child we were going to adopt, foster care and lots of moving...but we stuck it out together and when we decided to marry it didn't really change anything between us except that we were legally husband and wife.
I know ppl that are dating, having kid after kid with no intention of marrying. Not only does it leave them alone it leaves the kid with no family foundation to build on. Although I'm not telling anyone to "live in sin" I do think ppl need to take alot longer than a couple weeks to get to know each other before jumping into marriage.
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@michaeldadona (5684)
• Malaysia
11 Mar 09
A Marriage Is A Social Contract ~ assigned by both parties being a husband and a wife. One marriage life is vulnerable to divorce, although there are two (2) strings between both parties which are religion and civil law related to the marriage. Like two (2) people in one boat, sailing to one destination which of course expose to many factors to keep them getting the right route and maneuvering.
Dare To Take Dare To Face ~ I believe that any couple who get involved in marriage life do have a specific wish or intention. Whatever it is, totally depend on their own wish and they know what is needed in one marriage life to reach the happiness in their "togetherness". Marriage is necessary just one logic reason, do we want to look in future that our descendants living without marriage?. My answer is NO. So, there are many examples of happiness happened in marriage life. I'll take the positive example and the negative will be my guidance.
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@aidenofthetower (1814)
• United States
11 Mar 09
Both marriage and living together tend to offer the same problems, only if you live together it is easier to stop living together. There are cases where living together has lasted a good long time. But there are tons of other relationships that have ended (even after years). I prefer the commitment that I feel in my marriage.
I also think that part of the reason it is so easy to divorce is because of how people look at divorce. If you go into marriage not believing that is an option then it forces you to work through your problems and to work at making your marriage last.
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@MysticTomatoes (1053)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I personally don't see the problem with either situation. My husband and I did live together quite some time before we married. I know I can be hard to live with as can most people, and I wasn't about to throw away a marraige just because I couldn't stand how my husband acted around the house. So we did the live in thing and then once all that happened, we got married. I don't regret my decision one bit.
Living together allows you to see how the other person is in real life. When you date someone or just go over for dinner or a movie, you only get a 3 hour window into their life. You don't see their habits as they are always on their best behavior when you are around. If you really want to get to know someone, you've got to spend time with them and see them from all angles whether it be just woken up in the morning, grouchy at night or sick as a dog throwing up in the toilet all afternoon long.
And you can get legal claim over each other even if you are NOT married. It's called a will. I know several people who have been together 30+ years that have no desire to get married. My husband's co-worker, or one of them really, just lost her partner to brain cancer. She and her "husband" had been together 31 years without getting married and have 3 children. He passed away in his sleep early Saturday morning. He had a will that left everything to her and the kids and she is the executrix of his estate.
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@ljames8585 (129)
• Canada
18 Mar 09
My hubby is a man of divorce, and I am a lady of separation. I believe their is a way to work everything out, and he believes the same. His ex was the one who filed divorce or it would never have happened. I left my other half because of abuse. All situations are different but 99% of things can be worked on and worked out it's all a matter of both parties working on it, and having the will power to do it, their comes a point that their is no turning back because you have been so utterly hurt and confined that the separation is needed. My case is a different case, but i am so much more happier that I met my husband. You also have to remember everything happens for a reason and we all grow as individuals with each and everything that happens to us in our lives.
A lot of the younger people are getting married because they are being forced to by parents (my husbands case) and then since their is no true love their it is doomed for failure. Not all cases are this way but it is their. It takes strong people to get threw that. Others because of a pregnancy, which in my eyes is not right.
@timhinyy (1653)
• United States
10 Mar 09
i certainly dont believe you should get married just to get married though i am not opposed to marriage i believe both are fine and good as i live with my lady and dont see us getting married anytime in the near future but i would have no problem with it if that was what she wanted my parents have been married will be 35 years this year so they are a good example if you get married at the right time for the right reasons you can have a happy life together.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
10 Mar 09
The important thing here is that YOU are already happily married. Some people marry for the right reasons at the right time in life and others are not so fortunate. There are many advantages to living with someone but there are almost certainly as many disadvantages.
Legal marriage offers many protections but they also make both partners vulnerable in some ways. If two people can respect each other and be mature about life's challenges they can build a lasting commitment whether they are married or not.
Marriage is about family. If a couple is young and starting out and has all the ingredients for success they should definitely marry. For people who are a little further along in life it's a different story.
The issue of someone falling in love with another person is a completely different subject. It is not something insurmountable and can be overcome in time. The couple has to remember there was a reason they got together in the first place.
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@sugarlen (138)
• Philippines
11 Mar 09
I shall quote what Kuya Rene wrote in his book on "Spiritual Reality" which answers your querry. (Rene Mariano is a renowned psychic in the Philippines (www.renemariano.net) Philippines tel. no. 632-8436346. He says, "True marriage is the love from the hearts of two people. It is not just a religious ritualistic wedding or a civil marriage. Nevertheless, when a man truly loves his woman, the man is willing to give his name to her and a religious, or civil rite can only do this. this sacrament of the church or this law of the government morally legitimizes their union in the eyes of their church or their society." The ceremony of marriage is an important part of loving. Though, there are cases wherein lovers simply live in as a husband and wife, the risk here is so big for the woman. This is because; she has no legal rights as his mate. Her children will suffer being illegitimate, whose right as children will be so limited." "Anytime her man decides to leave her, and marry another, the law of a civilized society, or her religion cannot protect her. The spiritual reality is, if a woman would just live in with her man. She maybe his woman, but still she is not his wife."
@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
11 Mar 09
Hmmm you pose very good questions. To me commitment is commitment weather I'm living together with someone or married. I think it truly depends on the person. Some feel the need to solidfy and reaffirm their love in front of everyone by pronouncing it with wedding vows. Some feel that the fact they are living together and been together forever it seems is enough. It's all in what the people who love eachother are comfortable with.
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@mammamuh (582)
• Sweden
11 Mar 09
If you have children you should be married for the legal rights! At least here in Sweden, if somethings happens this is the only way that you'll get the house for example. If you are not married the children will get the parents part of it and if they are young it often is a government person that handles their interest.
I've been married to my husband for 13 years and I don't think that it would have been different if we just lived togehter.
I do belive that the love changes a lot during the years.
@j47lee (740)
• Canada
11 Mar 09
you should never marry someone you dont love.... that is very important.... people marry for alot of reasons.. and it doesnt not always mean they are in love with each other.... i have seen married men having affairs with other women.. and even married women with other men..... so if all people were of the same mind.. `MARRY SOMEONE YOU LOVE .... then i think there would be less divorces.... there are some cultures that couples marry by matchmaking.... personally i think im lucky in one way.. my culture believes in match making... but i had time to get to know my husband..and only after many months.. i decided to marry him....
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@pickwick (858)
• India
11 Mar 09
Signing on the dotted lines brings security.That is why marriage is more common.In a live-in relation that sort of security is lacking.Its always a woman who is at loss when it comes to a live-in arrangement.Marriages usaully involses the entire family so this knot is very firm.And even it one of the spouse go astray in the end usaully its the marriage which wins(though not always.)So I believe in marriage.
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@P_Ahman (72)
• Russian Federation
11 Mar 09
In our generation marriage is more or less a formality and marriage really seems to be getting out dated. Now a days people marry for reasons other than what marriage was meant to be. It's a scary fact but i would say in the 21st century, statistically, living together is a more common societal institution than marriage.
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