More Proof that Global Climate Change is a Scam!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
March 27, 2009 12:09pm CST
No matter what the Useless UN, Al Gore, Bush or Obama say; The more we learn about Global Climate Change the more it is exposed as a lie and a scam.
Ice stays ice until it is exposed to temperatures over 32 Degrees (F). That doesn't change anywhere in the known universe. The global climate change liars keep telling us how the ice at the North Pole is melting away.
“We’re hungry, the cold is relentless, our sleeping bags are full of ice,” expedition leader Pen Hadow said in e-mailed statement. “Waiting is almost the worst part of an expedition as we’re in the lap of the weather gods.”
3 researchers were stuck in the area of the North Pole. Efforts to save them were thwarted because IT WAS TOO COLD!
Another perfectly good LIE down the drain.
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16 responses
@4ftfingers (1310)
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28 Mar 09
Whether it's a lie or not, I don't see what the harm is in all of us trying to conserve and be greener anyway.
Oh yeh I forgot, we're all too lazy!!
Nevermind
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@bluemars (952)
• Australia
28 Mar 09
I don't know but the world is changing but not at the speed we think it might be I guess. But we do need to look after our world so that others can enjoy it as much as we can. The enviroment is something that we should not mess with too much as it has given us so much resources and we should give thanks to it and help make it flourish for future generations. As for the world we can only help it one step at a time.
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@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
28 Mar 09
"“We’re hungry, the cold is relentless, our sleeping bags are full of ice,” expedition leader Pen Hadow said in e-mailed statement. “Waiting is almost the worst part of an expedition as we’re in the lap of the weather gods.” "
Well, that quote doesn't prove a darn thing. Yes, it's cold near the poles, no matter what time of year you're there.
" Ice stays ice until it is exposed to temperatures over 32 Degrees (F). That doesn't change anywhere in the known universe. "
Really? Then why do you see snow and ice melting outside when it's *below* 32 degrees F when the Sun is shining on it? I suppose you're going to tell us that that doesn't really happen either, LOL.
If this is what you consider "proof" that climate change is a "scam," then you've got a really poor argument!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
The proof is in the fact that ice is forming IN THEIR SLEEPING BAGS.
Yes, we see ice melt when the ambient temp is below 32... because the sun is shining on it. The air might not be 32, but the surface temp of the ice or snow reaches it.
But with the heat sources, the ice is still forming, right? Which means no ice is melting.
@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
28 Mar 09
The North Pole is a very cold place. Just saying that there was ice in sleeping bags doesn't offer any "proof" that global warming isn't happening. It's just an anecdote (which I notice doesn't say what the temperature was at their location as opposed to what it was in the past). If you have a link to the original article this quote came from, I'd like to read it.
More than 90% of climate scientists say global warming is real, as well as scientists from other disciplines and government bodies. Even George Bush, a conservative, has come out and said it is real.
One anecdote about ice in a sleeping bag at the North Pole isn't going to refute the substantial and growing body of evidence.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
If ice is forming, it isn't melting. period.
You can't truthfully say that 90% scientists believe in Man Caused Global Warming because it just isn't true. Even if it was, "concensus" isn't science. 100% of scientists said that atoms were "indivisible", but it never was a fact.
@egdcltd (12059)
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27 Mar 09
The reason they stopped talking about Global Warming and started talking about Climate Change is that GW is an unproven theory, whilst CH is a fact. Change is what the climate does. Constantly.
Global mean temperatures are actually pretty low compared to what they have been historically. It's actually been pretty rare that the Earth has had two polar ice caps at the same time. At sometimes, such as the Jurassic period, it's not believed to have even had one.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 09
Exactly, the lie is that we humans can effect that change... of course, by giving Gore, Obama, the UN and other liars copious amounts of money.
@maffiks (13)
• Australia
27 Mar 09
Fantastic point. It was actually earlier that the Jurassic period I think (could be wrong) that the globe didn't have ice-caps. I'm not sure I'd call it rare though, I think its just the very first time the world has moved into this cycle.
All the chemicals we've poured into the atmosphere and ocean aren't going to help though.
@maffiks (13)
• Australia
28 Mar 09
so we as humans do not have any effect on the planet at all? our conspicuous consumption doesn't damage anything? ACID RAIN IS A MYTH??
GREAT!! Hunt those whales!! Leave that oil spill where it is, because we don't have an effect on the environment. Ya know what? Blow that nuclear power generator because anyone that says we have an effect is a LIAR!!
What a stupid argument.
You've yet to back up anyone of you arguments with actual science and you aren't even responding in full to other peoples posts.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
But they don't care about the earth at all, they care about power and money. Do the Global Warming activists live the way they say we all should? When they show how important it is by living it themselves, maybe I'll start listening.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
I think some people do believe in what they are doing, but they aren't the ones pushing for laws requiring draconian requirements. They are the ones living the example and working to educate people about what they consider a better way to live.
It's not the true environmentalists that are the problem, it is the eviro wackos that are.
The UN and other scammers want to impose their will on us, but they aren't willing to live it themselves.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
28 Mar 09
I'm sure SOME of the activists DO practice what they preach, and then there are some who might just be taking advantage of things and being hypocrites and opportunits. We can't clump ALL of the activists into the same category, can we?
Don't you think at least SOME of them believe in what they're doing?
@Jay_Fury (1)
• Canada
27 Mar 09
You may not believe in global warming, but if you have to accept the fact that the human race is murdering our once beautiful planet. Entire forest wiped out for placement areas of human settlements, countless species have gone extinct and not to count all the damage were causing from all the waste we dump into the earth..Imagine what the world would be like if we didn't force it to it's current state?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 09
Fire destroys far more acreage of forest than mankind ever did. Volcanoes pollute the air more than we ever could.
Against nature, we are rank amatures.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Mar 09
Exactly Ted! The earth has committed more violence on itself then us puny little humans ever could.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Mar 09
We are a mere parasites and without us around the earth would heal itself. The objective to taking care of the earth is for our benefit solely. The earth also rebuilds itself constantly and is forever changing. The earth will survive, however we are vulnerable.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
28 Mar 09
That is just one more piece of proof among lots! Global warming is a huge scam and I wish I would have thought of it. "this just in, blades of grass may cause deafness, send me $2000 and I will tell you how to save your hearing". Dam bunch of crooks.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
27 Mar 09
How do I put this? It takes longer for a pond to freeze over than it does a puddle. Just because the temperature is below freezing, does not mean the ice will stay ice. If an ecosystem warms up a little more than usual, and then suddenly gets a cold snap, it's not likely that a lot of snow or ice will stick.
The arctic is cold, and no one is contesting that. However, for whatever reason, some periods of time are warmer in the arctic than others. The warmer the climate, the less dense the ice will become, thus causing pieces to break off and float away. Many of those break-off pieces will eventually melt. You also have the sun which beats down upon the snow and ice during the short summers. It is well known that the ice caps recede every summer because of warmer temperatures, and then grow during winter because of colder temperatures. This is a common occurrence. Last summer, I believe, we lost an "ice mass" equivalent to the size of six California's, according to satellite pictures taken by NASA. The outcry is that each summer more ice has receded than the previous summer.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 09
Ice cannot melt if the temperature is below 32.. period.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
28 Mar 09
Okay. This is another topic/debate that I'm aware of, but have not been following closely, but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyway and ask a few questions...
First, what does the second part of your discussion have to do with the first part?
I'm not following the debate closely enough to have an opinion about whether global warming does or does not exist. I do know that I was hearing a lot about global warming a few years ago, then I sent my daughter to a Christian school and she came home saying that there is no such thing as global warming.
I'm not sure if that has to do with the fact that it's a "Christian" belief or if the public schools are also now saying that there is no such thing...
I actually think my son, who is still in public school IS being taught that global warming DOES exist.
My thoughts...isn't it possible that there are facts that support BOTH sides of the debate? Again... my belief that things aren't always black and white.
Another question...what is the motivation behind the "big lie" if Global Warming is in fact a lie?
Also, even if it is a lie, if this "lie" has encouraged people to become more environmentally conciouse (recycling, reducing fuel consumption etc) wouldn't that be a good thing? I'm not a big believe in "the end justifies the means" but I just wanted to ask the questions.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
27 Mar 09
The earth like everything else, runs on a cycle. I think Mother Nature just made a ton of environmentalists extremely angry when Mt. Redoubt erupted. Spewing tons of "global warning gases" into the air. Wonder who they are going to blame for that?
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I see another blogger filing yet another frivolous suit against Sarah Palin.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
28 Mar 09
Well, the ashes should actually cool the planet down a little bit because it won't let the sunlight through to warm everything up. The global warming gasses just don't let the warmth escape but something creating a great cloud cover would cool things down. It's just not very healthy when it rains down since it's ashes.
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@sagapo121845 (277)
• Philippines
28 Mar 09
I think it doesn't matter if its real or not.I think the outcome of that thing is still positive.I mean,the result would be good.Though they lie.Anyways,Im still confuse if its real or not.Im convinced at Al Gore's documentary..hehe
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
Al Gore's "documentary" has already been disproven. None of the models he used predicted the last 2 winters.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 09
btw, if the lifestyle Gore advocates is so important, why doesn't HE live it himself?
@OneEyedGiant (181)
• Indonesia
28 Mar 09
yeah politicians are bussinessmem, they explore the nature to get money, i believe if there is a politician talking about climate change is just to get mass in order to be a winner. They will aware if they have get the effect or drawn by melt ice.
@consciousliving112 (79)
• United States
27 Mar 09
Just because they weren't vacationing in a tropical paradise doesn't mean the ice caps aren't melting! This isn't a very valid argument. One quote, three researchers, and your opinion. Woo. You're changing the world!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 09
So you're saying that the ice is meltin, even in sub zero?
@venshida (4836)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I agree with you. I think it's one of the biggest scam out there.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Mar 09
The climate has changed since the beginning of time. Sometimes it rains, sometimes it snows and sometimes it doesn't. Been that was for eons. People freak out over nothing with the weather. The only difference from the past to now is that we hear more about the weather.
I'm watching the skies right now for snowflakes as we're due to be hit pretty hard.