All Kinds Of Support...
By twoey68
@twoey68 (13627)
United States
April 1, 2009 10:47am CST
I know several young men that have fathered numerous children either with the same girl or with different girls. The thing that I don’t understand is why would a guy put himself in the position of having to pay all the child support for all these kids. Now I know that being married and having kids doesn’t mean you won’t have to pay child support b/c some end in divorce. However it just seems senseless to go out and father 4-5 kids and then be stuck with child support or jail for each and every one of them.
I know one girl who has 3 kids, lives with the father but they’re not married. If she leaves, he’s stuck with child support…I know he’d be anyways if they were married but since he works day labor or minimum wage jobs why have so many kids. Another person I know has 6 kids all by the same guy that doesn’t pay any child support and the father is constantly avoiding the police. Another one has fathered 9 children that he knows of but says he can’t afford all the support.
If I were a guy, I’d wait till I was married to have kids, have one or two, get fixed and that would be it. I wouldn’t want to be supporting all kinds of kids.
Would you have kids you knew you couldn’t support? Do you think ppl think about the support of the baby when they’re out making them? If your son or daughter had many children by someone that didn’t want to support them, would you wonder about their sanity?
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22 responses
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
2 Apr 09
i too have the same question in my mind. there are many families here where they have many children they could not support. specially with those who barely able to eat decent meals cause we in a poor country but still they just seem not bothered having too many children to raise up. and what is painful to see is those kids are forced to earn in their young life just to be able to help their parents to have food on their table. but in the case of those not poor family but still not able to provide good education for them. it seems that they are not bothered if their children will have good future or a decent present life.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
1 Apr 09
The last thing on a man's or womans mind is child support. I think your right though. I mean why have kids you can't afford to properly take care of? If it was me in the situation I would be using birth control and taking precautions so I wouldn't end up with another child that can't be taken care of without assistance.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
3 Apr 09
Hello Twoey,
If any child of mine didn't support their own children (grrrrrrr!), I would most likely intercede, as I would blame the failure on my own poor parenting effort. If I raised a child with solid values, he or she wouldn't be out there thoughtlessly enabling unwanted gardens to grow. Instead, he or she would feel a real sense of dread about paying for two decades for a moment of physical satisfaction. Our daughter & SIL were married a year when they had their son. They were both quite young, 19 & 21 resepectively. It wasn't long after that they decided on an IUD. In light of this discussion, it's comforting to hear either or both of them utter complaints about how terribly expensive children are.
Good parents make it their job to instill good impulse control skills, a sense of personal responsibility and the concept of consequences as it applies to actions. Our schools no longer consider critical thinking a priority. Though, there's no reason why parents should jump off the same bridge by refusing to teach scruples and sound judgement to their children.
In my opinion, people oughta either keep it in their pants/legs closed, or be willing to pay the fiddler. It kinda makes one reconsider chastity belts, doesn't it?
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
3 Apr 09
Very real story issue. Great post!
I can't understand that too. I guess they are not thinking about it, you know when young, they sometimes fail to think forward and think that everything will be fine and the same in the future and end up having a sad ending of the relationship.
I have no brothers so we have no issue like this in the family. My hubby has no kid also when we got married but can name some friends who are in the same situation!
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@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
3 Apr 09
I used to work a job where we'd see the child support orders come thru.
I did 3 set orders where they nailed this one guy on 4 kids with 3 different women - one had her child just 4 months after another one
I'm sorry, they are ALL stupid! Women and men who get themselves into these situations! I just want to say - YOU! OUT OF THE GENE POOL!!!
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
1 Apr 09
Hi twoey, Thank you for a good discussion and you make some good points. I was thinking along similar lines recently only my thoughts were for the children. I am not opposed to people living together and having children, whether they are married or not. I don't like the idea of a man fathering children with several different women, because he can't be a real father to all of them. I agree that the idea is ridiculous from the point of view of your discussion as well. Blessings.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
2 Apr 09
heck you know MEN they dont think of any of this when they go out and dip thier wick.
Its al fun at the time no used to thinking about taking care of kids!.
My son had to get married but ended up in divorce but he paid his support still Is I think back support but it should all be just about paid off. and thats only one child he fatherd lucky him!
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@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
2 Apr 09
Someone once said that a person pays for a lifetime for 5 minutes of fun. I have known a couple of "deadbeat" dads. I don't get why people create children and don't take responsibility for them. I remember a story a few years ago about a professional football player who had 9 kids by 9 different women. I always wondered if these women got pregnant thinking that it would make him stay with them.
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@positiveminded1977 (7072)
• India
2 Apr 09
I wish fathers would get into such trouble in India too. Well, I guess men will be men... a little brainless. Their biological duty is to scatter babies around, and they will do it, child support or not. I am not a guy, but if I were one? I wonder what I would do? I guess I would try to be a good hubby to one woman and have a couple of kids if I was financially ok, and add 3 more adopted ones if I were rich. ;)
Cheers and happy Mylotting
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@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
2 Apr 09
Hi twoey68! I do wonder the same thing my friend. However in this case, this person that I personally know has 3 children from his estranged wife. He left his wife because of irreconcilable differences. He was deceived by his manipulative wife that she is taking the necessary precautions so as not to get pregnant but she did anyway. And after giving birth to all three, she decided to resign from her work and just stayed home. All three children are being supported by the father and the estranged wife is asking for more from his paycheck. The man is very kind and he is giving 70% of all his earnings for the sake of the children to his estranged wife while the wife is not doing anything to except to eat and eat and ask and ask for more. In this case, I am wondering how long the man will put up with the behavior of his estranged wife.
Take care and God Bless!
lovelots..faith
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Apr 09
they should be made topay support for every one of the, i always heard you play u pay. idon't think they think about that when they are having the fun of making them. i had a hard time supporting my two but i did it by working my fannie off.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
3 Apr 09
What are these women doing with men who have multiple kids by multiple women. If I met a man with kids, I would want to know he is paying adequate child support for them. By adequate I mean half of the expense of raising a child. It's a heck of a lot of money to raise a kid. The not only need food and shelter, but also dental, medical and activities like piano lessons dance lessons and camp etc. If they have crooked teeth, they need braces. If you have a kid who's either smarter or stupider than average, you need tutors or advanced help. All these things really add up.
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@Carpathian (582)
• United States
2 Apr 09
I was just thinking about this the other day. It is funny that you wrote this because I think the biggest problem now a days is that a lot of men don't have to pay the child support. They just move to another state and leave no way for any one to find them. And, some get like you said day jobs where they get paid cash or a low pay. That way child support will only take a little out of that low check, not knowing that the guy probably make's a lot more in cash at another job doing day labor. So, file SSI or disability for some reason or another then they don't have to pay any child support. So, most of the girl's or women get on welfare and the state picks up the tab. That is are tax dollars! There are so many that work the system now a days that that is one of the reason we are so in debt. I even know a few that get PG right away so that they can get the free housing and food stamps and tanf along, with all the other free things so that you don't have to work and you can live with the guy without the state knowing it. So, you pretty much as set until the kid is 18 yrs. old. One lady I know had 6 kids just to stay on welfare her whole life. She owns a house HUD payed for her and it is a six bedroom house w/garage, basement and attic plus all the regular's. She gets to use her tanf to travel and gamble. She wins money but does not report it. She works the system good. I can understand why some people do that is because they don't want to be like their parents who work their whole life and had little to nothing to show for it. But, come on people you are making the other people suffer that have to work to pay for all those tax dollars you spend! I think everyone should do some kind of work just to help out!
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@710888239 (9)
• China
2 Apr 09
I think the people as the children:s parrents must be responsble for the children.
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@mummymo (23706)
•
1 Apr 09
I don't think being married is an issue here twoey. I was married to my ex , took my vows very seriously and tried to work things out through so many things including a LOT of abuse - wasn't til the abuse started affecting my baby that I HAD to leave for my sons safety. I have been with my partner now for almost 12 years and there is more commitment and stability than there ever was in my marriage.
It does sadden me though when I see youngster out procreating and bringing lots of children that they cannot just not afford but cannot even provide emotional stability for. I think with some of them it is about showing how'manly' they were - if only they could see that they are anything but manly when they create children and do not support them! xxx
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
2 Apr 09
One thing is that the earth can't afford the large population too! Apparently, they are lack of responsibility! It does suck!
@littleowl (7157)
•
1 Apr 09
Hi Twoey, my daughter was in a relationship with a South African he was really nice but then she fell pregnant and he threatened her with all sorts if she had the baby...he has two children in South Africa by different women whom no longer want to know him and don't want his support..also he has a child with someone else in England who is the same way, my daughter DID try to get support from him as he walked out on her but he has evaded the SS and everyone else, so she has given up trying to get anything out of him and no longer wants to know him...I don't question my daughter's sanity but do the father of my grandson cos if he knows that he is getting all these children, why doesn't he get the 'chop'!! At least that would stop him fathering anymore! hugs littleowl
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@scififan43 (2434)
• United States
1 Apr 09
I have no kids at all so I have no child support issues. I would only want to suport kids whom are mine, fathered my me only, althogh I would accept a step-child if I shoul be in that situation. I have no desire to father children whom I can't support. but should it happen, I will comply and pay what I owe and need to do.