Do you think Nurses are lacking Education?

@KrauseHome (36448)
United States
November 11, 2006 3:26am CST
when it comes to anything major other than what their field of expertise? I am Diabetic and am appaled at what little a lot of Nurses know about what a Diabetic should eat, etc. and see it for other issues as well. I have seen this even from Nurses who just finished with their schooling as well.
18 responses
@AndreaM76 (1164)
• United States
28 Nov 06
Sorry to hear you think nurses' don't know enough about diabetic needs. I see your point. I think in this rush rush world probally a general RN or LPN wouldn't know as much as say the dietatician. I do know that at the hospital I worked at there was a Nurse who specialized in diabetic education as well as the dietary team. The nurses were not undereducated, they knew what to and all the signs and symtoms of high and low sugar. We all knew what calories and carbs the patients needed. Not all diabetics have the same needs. Some need 1800 ADA some need 2000. Just remember the nurses' are there to fix what is wrong and administer the right meds and insulin. It's really up to the patient to comply with the diets directed by thier doctor and nutrionist.
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• United States
23 Nov 06
I think they are lacking in both education and compassion! Well not all of them, but a lot of them.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
why do you think that? did you have a bad experience. If so, direct that to the right person, or persons. You are 26, right? It's not fair to say most nurses lack compassion.
@caribe (2465)
• United States
11 Nov 06
I wasn't aware of that. Maybe it is like one of other posts said. They are careful not to cross the line and get into what is considered to be the doctor's area of expertise. I haven't come across that problem personally.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
30 Jan 07
Well, I feel that sometimes they should be more knowledgeable if they are going to work with patients, but I have seen many Drs. this uneducated as well, and it is a shame.
@dave_lie (1474)
• Indonesia
13 Nov 06
yes, i think most nurses are lacking education just like in my place.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
well you are in indonesia, at least that's what it says in your profile, and I wouldn't dream of insulting them when I don't know what their nursing program is. And I am assuming you haven't taken their courses so you don't know either, but they do know things....maybe it is just you don't know what they know....Nurses are not allowed to make diagnosis, or even discuss diagnosis with patients if the doc wishes. Here we have hippa, so even though nurses might have a plethora of information, we can not relay that to anyone but the patient. Make sure it is not you that is not communicating or unknowledgeable before you accuse the nurse. I assure you if she didn't know what she is doing, she wouldn't be there.
• United States
11 Nov 06
Well nurses are not required to know as much as doctors on diseases..I don't really think they have to know much at all on medicines accept for distributing the prescribed meds..It is the responsability of the doctor to make sure that his/her patient is well informed on his/her illness..+
• India
28 Nov 06
smile - smile
i think yes
• United States
21 Dec 06
you think yes why?
@mcmomss (2601)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I was in the hospital 3 times in the last 6 months for a total of 14 days. Most of the nurses were pretty good, but there were a few of them that didn't seem to know what they were doing. I had to tell them how the others were doing things.
@wavelander (1526)
• Portugal
11 Nov 06
Like in any job who needs a major sense of responsability, they should have a degree or a long time of formation about their area.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Amen to this. I think that is the problem. Most of them are never really taught enough to deal with the situation at hand, and lack the knowledge to be able to handle something with responsibility.
@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
11 Nov 06
I think that nurses are educated to do the things a nurse is expected to do, and I think they pick up a lot listening to the doctors. However, nurses I've known are very careful about crossing the line into the doctors' area of expertise. I have a close friend who is a nurse, and she knows a lot. However, when I go to a doctor's office, the nurses refuse to answer even basic medical questions.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
28 Nov 06
Well, it could depend on whether it is in a Doctor's office type setting, or more specialized setting also I think. I find the ones that think they are helpful usually are not up to date on what is the best to do in any situation.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
23 Dec 06
I think that the suggestion of lacking education is a little unkind. A nurse has a specific role to play in the medical profession, whereas the example that you mention falls outside of that domain. I have very limited knowledge as far as diabetes is concerned, but I would not consider myself uneducated. The vast scope of medicine today covers such a large area that even doctors and specialists have their own domain, but I would consider a medical specialist to be lacking in education because his understanding of a different branch of medicine was limited.
@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
11 Nov 06
It is hard to say whether they are lacking or not. I would probably say yes but it is only because nobody is sufficiently or over educated in any profession. I think everyone can learn new things and should be kept up to date with education and training, no matter what their profession is.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
29 Nov 06
AMEN... That is what I am trying to get at. If something was Good for treatment in the 90s, does that mean it works on everyone, and still good today? What bugs me most is the people who are against people who check out the Internet for backing on everything.
• Philippines
11 Nov 06
nope. i don't think so. . . they just need a break to exercise their expertise. . .
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
23 Dec 06
Well, I think they should be constantly learning about New changes, and open to New things.
@sweetlady10 (3611)
• United States
30 Jan 07
nurse - nurse with a patient
I don't think this is because of lack of education. You can see a trend now a days people are not willing to get updated with knowledge they may be need in their proffesion. They are just like a machine, other then what their course teach them or what they learn from their traing people don't have any other general knowledge.
@ride54toi (406)
• Philippines
24 Dec 06
well i guess more practical skills. they need it mmore. patients' lives are more important than any other things
@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
23 Dec 06
Nursing - Nursing
I think that most nurses would have some knowledge about all facets of medicine, and for a diabetic that would include bloody sugar levels etc. However unless they are a specialist dietician, diabetic nurse or nutritionist then it is unfair to expect that they would know everything. Nurses who has just finished their education would not have a lot of practical experience and as they cover many subjects during their training, it is a little unreasonable to expect that they would know everything on all medical conditions. It is up to the Doctor to make a diagnosis, not a nurse, or at least that is the case in my country. A special friend of mine is a nurse and has been for 35+ years now and firstly she was doing general nursing, then undertook training in surgical/operating theatre nursing, followed by midwifery and about 10 years ago decided to change to nursing the elderly. She took several courses and now is a Marton at an Aged Peoples Homes which specialises in Dementia and Alzheimers. Now she does have a lot of experience, but it would be unreasonable to expect her to have full and complete knowledge of the areas of nursing that she studies in the late 1960's.
@happygal68 (3275)
• United States
13 Nov 06
My MIL is an LPN and has been one now for over 25 years. She knows quite a bit and to her it is a learning process each day she goes to work. But, she is very careful to not step on the doctor's toes. She may speak to the Dr. first to see if it is ok she inform the patient on what they want to know only after she has ran it by him first.
@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
22 Dec 06
I think that there is such a vast amount of information a nurse needs to know generally, that unless she/he takes a specific interest in deepening in one field, she might seem uninformed. The medical field is changing rapidly, including diabetes care, so there is a lot to learn. I would look around until I found a nurse who is specialized, if I need help with a particualr ailment, like diabetes. I am a big advocate of being an informed health care consumer. In the area of diabetes care, I have noticed that responses, by both doctors and nurses varies from place to place.Each nursing home I have worked at or trained at has seemed to have a different care guidline. You are an individual, so I imagine you have to be observant as how a treatment reacts with your personal situation.
@blueman (16509)
• India
28 Nov 06
no idea, haven't dealt with them yet.