Why can people just say what they really mean?
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
United States
April 16, 2009 10:35am CST
I have always been an honest person or at least try to be.I know sometimes people lie with the kindest intentions to spare hurt feelings...but I have always prized honesty,I prefer people to be upfront with me no matter if it may hurt or not I can take that and respect those who are truthful.I always have said I'd rather be stabbed in the front then in the back.I have a friend whom I caught in a few lies in regards to me.Now this person is blowing me off I know it,he knows it I have tried to bring up the subject but I just get circle talk and not an answer.I feel he should just tell it like it is and be done with it .So I wonder is it worth confronting him or letting it go and just not bother with him anymore do I really want a friend like that?I guess what I really want to know is if your not happy with someone or don't want to be around them why keep pretending your really friends when clearly your not as you were?Am I missing something?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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16 Apr 09
I think that if you are really and truly friends then you should feel able to confront him about his behaviour. It seems to me that he is being less than honest with both you and himself - not to mention the people that he is telling his stories to. I have heard it said that if they are talking about you, even if it's rubbish then that's a lot better than not being talked about. I'm afraid that unless you are someone that courts publicity then I just don't agree! You aren't missing anything - he is!
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@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Thanks pLkef:)I had thought we were friends up until a few days ago,and I want to get this resolved and move on.I see no point in continuing our friendship,we used to be close but that's changed and if anything I think I deserve an explanation at least.Thanks for your advice and kind words.I would much rather focus on my friends who really care.xx
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@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
I meant thanx p1lkef1sh..sorry for the typo...seem to be having technical difficulties typing today,lol!
@fiazio (734)
• India
16 Apr 09
Well its just going pretty much the same with me here.
People say what they don't want to and the other way round, I've been into much trouble lately with break ups and friends going apart.
I really think it is just the way it is, there's not much we can do about it.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Hi Fiazio,yes seems no one can make up their mind or just tell the truth.You can't change people they are who they are so the best thing is not to bother with them anymore.Why stick around if things aren't going anywhere!Not me anyway.Thanks for responding,have a good one.
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@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Awwww.thanks fiazio,your so sweet!I wish you all the best too,take care.x
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@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Try talking to your friend. If he can't be bothered, back away, turn away and never look back - UNLESS - he comes to you. Then be the bigger person who's willing to be open and talk.
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@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello mysicmaggie,yes we are going to have a nice little chat very soon.I am going to handle it in a very tactful manner I just want to know what's going on.Will see how it goes,thanks for responding and the good advice.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Welcome to MyLot.
Sometimes we get into moods that make us act distant with out friends... or we get ill. But other times it's just time for a friendship to end. I don't think it's fair to anyone to just dance around the subject. "Come out with it or get over it."
My guess (and that's all it is) would be that they know they lied and are feeling guilty about it. I think the next move would be up to you. Either allow for their mess up and move on, let things ride and see where it goes, or try to talk it out saying that it needs to be dealt with.
Good luck with what I know is a hard situation.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Thanx TL Chimes:)Nice to meet you!That is very sound advice and while I want an explanation I don't want to be to hasty or harsh but you cant move forward till it is put to rest.I am weighing all options here before I dicuss it.Thanks for your words of wisdom,it helps.xx
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@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
18 Apr 09
why not try to tell those people who beat around the bush to tell it to you straight? unliking a person reflects on our face, our actions, our tone of voice. that maybe the reason why people are ever the more careful in dealing with you because they know there's something about them you don't like but they're not aware that they're well meaning respect is not being "effective" on you.
some people are tough and have a very keen sense of who they are and are not easily affected like you. and i can say even me. however, if we are who we are some people are also who they are. they are different from us.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
19 Apr 09
Hello Ritchelle,I agree.And I know there are some who can't handle it straight and I would never hurt them in anyway as not everyone can handle the truth and have things pointed out in a blunt manner.I try to keep it civilized and tactful.In this case the person knows better so that doesn't apply.Thanks for responding and your very well put comment.
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@prinzcy (32305)
• Malaysia
16 Apr 09
Honesty is the best policy but honesty hurt too. Sometimes to avoid hurt the others' feeling, we choose not to tell the truth. Sometimes lying can help a lot as well. In your case, if you want to hear the real truth, talk face to face about it directly to him. Force him to speak no matter what. He can change the subject but you must try harder to make him speak.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Hello princy:)I agree there is a price with honesty at times.And yes there are times when you have to do that.I guess it depends on the situation at hand.But the truth always comes out sometime.I will just force my hand in a rational and dignified manner but this needs to be resolved so I will proceed with caution but won't be anyones fool either.Thanks for your input it helps put things in perspective.
@PurpleTeddyBear (6685)
• Canada
17 Apr 09
I can understand that ... A friendship is a two way not a one way, and you shouldn't have to be the only one making all of the efforts. How is that fair?
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
16 Apr 09
Hello Purplebear,Yes every situation is different,but in this case it is personal.We used to be very close and spend alot of time together,now I am independent but when someone does a 360 change in the span of a week it makes me wonder.I can accept he may not want to spend time with me anymore all I want is an answer as to why and he knows that I am a straight forward person so no excuses are going to cut it.I am not asking for anything but respect and honesty,I see no point in continuing a friendship if the effort is not being made.
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@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
18 Apr 09
You asked "Why can people just say what they really mean?". My answer : Why not?
True friends do not lie. They speak the truth even though the truth hurts. Yes, there are some who tell white lies to preserve relationships but I am of the opinion that white lies can lead to bigger lies and bigger lies lead to more bigger lies. In the end, there is no more sincerity. I am one who speaks my mind and by the same token, I would prefer my friends to be out front. It is a fact that many cannot accept the truth.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
19 Apr 09
Hello whyask,that is solely my point.True friends do not set out to hurt or deceive people they care about in a cruel manner.Like you say there are times when such honesty shouldn't be permitted but should be handled as delicately as possible.And yes lies can snowball and get even bigger and cause a world of hurt in the end.Me I prefer utmost honesty whether hurtful or not.But I know alot of people arent like that.Thank you for responding to my discussion.Very well said.
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
22 Apr 09
[i]Hello faeryoftheshire1,
It is really hard to tell the truth always. I am also guilty of not telling the truth and sometime lies about certain situation. I will be a saint if I can stick to telling the truth always. It is better to confront him and tell him what you really mean. This will stop the pretending he is doing. It might even make your friendship stronger.
Regards.[/i]
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
24 Apr 09
Hello robert19ph,I know sometimes I wonder where to draw the line most times and sometimes you have to be direct.It all depends on the situation.Thanks for the advice and wisdom.Take care.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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19 Apr 09
Hi faery,
A true friend wouldn't treat you like that, you should be able to trust each other and be there for each other but I don't think this person is so I think you are better of without this person them and move on. Love and hugs.
Tamara
xxxx
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
19 Apr 09
Hello Tamara,I agree and your so right on,I decided not to bother with this person anymore as I don't think he has my best intrests at all.That's what my guts telling me and you confirmed it as well.Change is definately in the air,thanks for your kind words,and so happy your back.Much light and love.Liaxxxxx
@sweetyethot (1737)
• China
19 Apr 09
Sometimes,truth hurts.But I'd rather be hurt at first than be fooled all the time.I honor honesty,too.But I dont always speak too frank to those who are not my friends.I hate people lying to me but I dont like people speak too directly as well.That looks rude.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
19 Apr 09
Hello sweetyehot,yes it does,but better be hurt then being made a fool of,which is what doesn't settle right with me as some people know better then that.I know what you mean though sometimes people say too much when they shouldn't.There is a time and place and a wise person knows better.It all hinges on the situation your in.Thanks for reading this and responding.
@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
23 Apr 09
I think some people fear telling the truth because of what might happen if they do. I think you should tell your "friend" that it's cowardly to not be up front with you regarding your relationship with each other. If he says there's no problem, let him know that you both know he's lying, so he might as well tell you the truth. The truth can't be any worse than (not then) what's happening with your relationship now.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
24 Apr 09
Hiya 6precious102,you are right sometimes the consquenses could be hurtful and devestating and other times a breakthrough and understanding.Great advice and thankfully we are not a couple as it would be more complicated.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
17 Apr 09
I think this guy must be feeling very guilty.
He may not think that words will get round to you so fast. I think this kind of person is really a coward, dare not speak in front of you, but want to spread rumors behind your back.
Is his comment going to hurt your boss's evaluation of your work. If it is, tell your boss and says that you want to arrange a meeting to clarify matters. Don't let this guy stabs you for nothing.
If it's just a personal comment on food or dressing, then forget about it.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello scheng1,I wouldn't be making a fuss over this if it was simple.I am not one to over react,I usually let most things slide but this goes beyond that.And your perception of my friend is exactly what I am seeing.Thanks for responding and your wise words,have a good day.
@Emceeric (70)
• United States
20 Apr 09
well,in that situation I have to talk with him so the issue would be clear.I am an honest person and if one of my friends betrayed me or whatever I feel not comfortable of what I heard and not trying to be honest with me well,ignore him and forget him.This is what I am and I don't care whatever they say about me as long as I know I am right and having no regrets of whatever decisions I made.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
24 Apr 09
Hello Emceeric.....Yes I agree with you.Things need to be straightened out.I prefer the truth as hurtful as it is.Very well pit you and me think alike.Thanks for reading and responding.
@FreshWriting (84)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello Faeryoftheshire1,
Yes, honesty is a very tough thing that causes many people to lie (as unusual as that sounds) if they are caught in the spotlight. Not many people can come around to tell the truth, and may find it easier or more painless if they lie.
The only problem is dealing with personal morals, ethics, and individual remorse. If you lie to your wife, saying you were going out to eat lunch with a colleague and really sneak off to your "girlfriend's" apartment, you're infringing upon the ethic of honesty. But what is honesty without a personal code? A useless 7 letter word with no effect at all.
But as for your concern, if you have caught him lying, it all depends on how good a "friend" he has been to you. If he is now blowing you off (are you, by the way, dating this person?), then if you are dating him, he's probably seeing someone else, or considering doing so. Either way, he's lost interest, which shame on him because you seem like a great gal.
You COULD confront him about it, very directly, I suppose. Just tell him EXACTLY what's going on, straight to his face. He'll probably get awkward, and again, try to blow you off. But keep eye contact with him, and don't let him leave. Force him to answer, and then you'll know.
What you'll "know" is whether he was lying or not, whether he's interested, and essentially whether he's full of hot air or a genuine guy.
OR you could play along, which I wouldn't advise. There's nothing worse than being a part of a fake life, where your "friend" is nothing but a false flag and empty face. Then, of course, when the truth comes out, you feel like an idiot for not finding it earlier.
Either way, stay strong, no matter how hard it can be. As big a cliche as this is, it's accurate: Listen to yourself, and your personal experiences. You know what kind of friend he is and is not, what kind of friend he can be and cannot be. It's all up to you at the end of the day.
My best wishes; I hope things work out for you and your friend.
Regards,
-Fresh Writing
@FreshWriting (84)
• United States
18 Apr 09
Hello Faeryoftheshire1,
Hey, well, I'm glad I could help! I agree that you do deserve an explanation, as he has been unfairly deceptive and disrespectful to you...
-Fresh Writing
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello FreshWriting,thank you for this response you pretty much said it all,we have dated in the past we are on and off and were always friends,but he has changed.And I can accept things between us are done all I am asking is for him to be upfront and show some respect.I will confront him on this once and for all,and I won't back down from this at all.Thanks again for your amazing insight it has helped me put everything in to perspective.And my gut is telling me that this friendship is most likely ending which I am okay with I just feel I am owed an explanation.You are very kind and again thanks for your words of wisdom.Faery
@Mikaela_taz25 (1842)
• Philippines
17 Apr 09
some people are just too happy to be with some one that they don't like just for the sake of power,contact and their usefulness to them. that is the world that i have come to know after all what have id been through.some people lie because they're afraid that the truth would hurt their friends and would changed the way they think about them.
@HardworkinJudy (9)
• United States
18 Apr 09
Most women I know have been raised to be nonconfrontational. We have been taught to consider others feelings before our own, and because of this may have a problem broaching a subject for fear that someone's feelings may be hurt.
While I am sensitive, and do not deal well with criticism, I do appreciate constructive criticism. Why is it that so few know how to provide that? I hate being lied to and will shun those I have caught in lies. While I trust people initially, once that trust has been betrayed it is hard to earn back, so I can relate to what you are saying about someone pretending to be a friend. Why? Just be for real because what are you solving with the pretense? They have a saying about keeping your enemies close to you because you cannot trust them, but I prefer to keep company with those I CAN trust.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
19 Apr 09
Hello HarworkinJudy,I know what you mean there are certain ways to approach things to people without hurting them or being cruel about it.It depends on the situation and the person.There is a time and place for truth and how you go about it depends on the task at hand.Yes I see no reason in pretending to be something your not,to me it's a waste of time.I would rather spend time with those I can count on.Thank you for responding.
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
17 Apr 09
Love or disassociation! If they are like that, drop them like a bad habit, because they're attitude will depress you. They obviously have no respect for you if they can't confront you straight up, especially when you bring it up. I know some people are afraid of being rejected or hurting feelings, they were raised that way. But me I am like you, honest to the point of brutality. Tell it how it is!
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello CJscott,yes I am growing tired of the same song and dance,I want to give him the benefit of the doubt as that is my nature which is why I am going to confront him but if he still reacts the way he has then that's it.I don't want to waste or invest my time in someone that is lacking,it gets old and boring after awhile.Thanks for the advice,have a good one.
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@mira91 (985)
• Singapore
17 Apr 09
Well you do have a point there...But i guess sometimes being upfront takes a whole lot of courage and some people just don't have it in them to be that person who could confront people or take criticisms in a cool manner. Maybe they just felt like ignorance was always the best option..Well personally for me, i do gree with what you've said in which i'd be able to accept it (i think) but the circumstances in which my friendships were built from doesn't really 'accept' upfront confrotations, much less giving one. It's either it would totally destroy what was ever there in the first place or they were afraid that the relationship will not recover to what it was. And as mch as i want to believe that if real friends were ever real they'd understand, i also understand that some people regardless of whether they're friends just doesn't take these kinda things too well. ^_^
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello mira,being up front and straight forward isn't an easy decision or way to go.Some people are limited or just very sensitive and you shouldn't approach someone until you weigh all the pros and cons.Every situation is different there are times when you shouldn't speak your mind as it can do alot of damage and cause a world of hurt I understand that.But when people are being deceptive intentionally and causing ill will then that doesn't apply.And by confronting my friend this will answer my question is this friendship salvagable or not.I'll know that soon enough.Thanks for your very well put response.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello sameta,you are very right.There are times when you have to spare someone's feelings I have done that myself.I am far from being perfect or high and mighty and I don't like to hurt people and avoid it as much as I can.But if someone is intentionally being deceitful then that is a different story.Every situation is different and we have to handle it,in a mature and dignified manner.Thank you for responding and commenting.Have a good one.
@apisamat (2)
• Malaysia
17 Apr 09
to get honesty, is not a easy task. it's normal if we being honest and sincere to someone, but that person doesn't give any good feedback. Me also feel the same way..sometime i thought that maybe i made some mistake. or maybe i was too sincere. and make people make fool of me easily cos i really put fully trust on someone. It's sad. feel so bad..for you, i really understand how your feeling...one thing we must remember, only one that really honest to us right now. the one who create us. GOD. be honest with Him, never be cheated.no lies from Him, for sure.
@faeryoftheshire1 (558)
• United States
17 Apr 09
Hello apisamat,your right it is not easy,as every consqeuence has an action and as every situation is different you proceed with it accordingly.And yes we always expect the people we trust to have are back and when they don't it is a let down and you feel foolish for not seeing it till after the fact.Thank you for your understanding and kind words.