Tolerance and schools and parents.

You know I agree 100% with you.. You also gave me an idea. You said that your son's highschool doesn't have a therapist like yours and you made the comment about there should be help for victims. Well I know that this might up the school taxes But why not twice a month for each grade they can be on different days (that way their is a full time therapist or psychatrist on site) But during those days one class for that grade is removed and they have a group therapy session where they can talk about their problems and they can learn to hanlde and express their emotions in a nonviolent way and in a more acceptable way. That way when they are older they are more open to consuling when it's needed. Face it society makes therapy look like something evil at least when I grew up. And ofcourse if they have these sessions that anything said in these sessions is confidential. I honestly think I would probably help the kids in the long run if they started doing this in pre-k. That way we might have less blow ups than we are getting. I know that this isn't a solution or a bandaid but it's a start. There will always be kids that you think were spawned from the devil himself but at least with having a full time therapist or psychatrist there they can assess situations better than the school official and they have an obligation to make sure that their patients/clients don't harm themselves and they would probably be able to notice and upcoming melt down faster than any one else.

Sounds like our kids are very alike sweety! I think the proudest I ever was of my Niall was when he heard someone expressing a racist opinion and told them how silly they were - that brown people were the very same inside as we are and God just made them a different colour so we wouldn't all look too alike! I am very pleased to say the racist apologised to my son -and Niall was only 5 at the time! I wish you had that programme too sweety , in fact I wish it were available freely here but they are still collating the facts and to decide whethter to roll it out to the wider school population! xxx

Well hopefully that will be done quickly because I think the program is needed now more than ever.

You know I wish that we had that going on in our schools here but we don't well hun I have to say that we are two peas in a pod. becuase I know that I wouldn't be able to contemplate life if I lost one of my babies. I also love how open minded my kids are. :)

Yeah I know that everyone should start teaching it at home but face it we have parents that just don't care and then when do they learn it. I say that it should always start at home then continue through out school. Sometimes I'd like to taser the parent of kids that are intolerant.

youd be tazioring alot of people lololool

it would bso much fun though he he he he

There are men that will pay women to beat them up Cyn!

I know that I told my boys that they could only fight back after 3 hits or the other person drew blood. I don't belive that they should automatically fight back but if after 3 hits and there is no teacher around then they do need to fight back. The hard part is that they get punished just as much as the other person who started it. My son was in trouble for defending a freind who was being pushed around and was almost suspended. I fought it and they finally relented. However I told them that they needed to let teachers be aware if there is a problem first. This has seemed to work for them.

Thanks for you're response. I'm not sure i get it totally but let me some it up and you can tell me if I'm right or not ok. You're basically saying that at home you don't have a need to be tolerant so you not always tolerant but at school you need to be tolerant of other more so you are . You also live by this rule because if you didn't you wouldn't be able to be in control of your intolerance? Did I get it right? Again thank you for your response and you're doing wonderfully for english being your second language.

thanks. i found i fear others when i at school or job. i don't know why. can you tell me why i have this thought?

yep there is no way to eliminate the bullies but the more you teach about tolerance the less there are. And maybe if more people are tolerant of other more would pick up that something is wrong and be there to help support the kid that has a problem going on in there life. Support systems are something that can be a great life saver and the more tolerance a person has the more likely they will help someone who need to talk and express what is wrong with out judgement.

Yep your right I ment intolerant for the last question. LOL!! See what happens late at night when your tired and drained. LOL!Now I agree with everything you said.. I think that there should be stricter policies at schools for any type of bullying.. I also think that parents should have no say in tolerance classes since the school is trying to teach tolerance then they should tolerate not have control of those classes. Now if it's ofcourse risque then there should be limits. But if we don't start teaching tolerance with more than a one day work shop then we are doomed. I think that maybe there should be a work shop where the kids take a school field trip every day.. One day the take a field trip to the salvation army and they help out at lunch or they can go there get a tour and explanation about what they do for people and the types of people and then they sit down and eat with these people. I mean there are many things they can do and to see. They have to realize no matter what they type of person or where they come from they are all people with feelings and hopes and dreams like the rest of us. Though we may be different as night and day do we not still hope? do we not still dream? If you pr!ck us do we bleed and feel the pain of that pr!ck (depending on the knife size and the size of the pr!ck)? I guess in what I'm trying to say is we all have dreams, aspirations, and feelings! We are just different in looks, thoughts, speech, and you name it but we still have some things in common though our dreams and hopes are different they are still something we all have. And kids at a young age need to be taught to respect everyone's right to be an individual and then to tolerate that individuality.

Ofcourse it would be hard to implement but we never know until we try eh!! I think that if it started at homes then it would be easier to continue it. LOL!! But at you said it takes hard work to program them to hate others for their differences.

It's true that we have to teach our kids that we are all different and that no two people are alike. I have always been a big person on tolerance with my kids. I always tell them no two people are ever alike, actually I use a snowflake metaphor.People are like snowflakes no two are alike. I feel using that to describe it because snowflakes are beautiful that it shows that everyone is beautiful and unique in a good way. I hate that people are intolerant of others. Society needs to wake up and realize that if we don't catch the problem now that it's only going to progress to something worse.

I agree with you. I have think that schools could do more seminars or have a month where they focus on it for at least 1/2 a period and they can do little games to learn the tolerance. LOL!! I haven't truly thought of what type of program can be implemented. But I think at the very least that they should have a seminar it would be nice if they could at the begining or end or middle of the say everyday take about 20 minutes to teach about tolerance. Maybe they should have a caucasion kid, research the history of puerto rico.(this is ofcourse for the older kids) For the younger kids maybe they can learn a little bit of the language like the colors and food and holidays. I think learning about different cultures would help and as they get older and can do more research they have assignments to learn about the different cultures and types of people their are in the world. I mean cultures are just part there is so much to learn and I think if we do that then with the knowledge comes more understanding. Sigh... But you know that would be like pulling an eye tooth of someone to get it approved. sigh...

I agree with you totally. sigh.. I think that manners should always be taught both at home and continued in school. But unfortunately they aren't ... I would love to change that though.

I agree with you. The victim should never be punished for asking for help and coming to an adult. This policy sends a message that they really don't care to make sure the students are safe. Face it how many kids being picked on and bullied are going to ask for help if they are going to be punished for asking. I think you should at the next PTA or PTO meeting talk about the policy and how to change it so that it protects rather than punishes. also put clauses in there if there are false reports of bullying. Because you do need something in place to punish a person using this policy against anyone. sigh what is the world coming too. I teach my kids to respect their elders. That is how I was taught and that is how I will continue even with my grandkids.