awards
everybody gets a trophy
misbehavior
responsibility
reward for bad behavior
reward for good behavior
school
student of the month
teacher
trophy
Have to vent, feel free to ignore me
By jonesy123
@jonesy123 (3948)
United States
May 1, 2009 9:27am CST
Okay, today something happened that just really irritated me but extends to something that has been bugging me for some time now. My kids' school was hosting a breakfast for the kids as a treat. My oldest child's teacher assigned to me to bring in fruits. When we brought the tray into the classroom the teacher was like thank you and then proceeded to tell me how she had to be very specific in who to pick for that because it had to somebody who'd really do it. But the way she phrased it, well, it came out like she needed somebody who'd be dumb enough to put in all the work for a fruit tray. I was taken aback. I thought I'd misheard and proceeded to go with my kids to awards assembly where they also had other activities going on this morning. I kept pondering what that teacher had said. I came to the conclusion that I had heard correctly but that I should let it go...
Well, then I saw who the teacher picked for student of the month. I had heard before from my daughter that kids had gotten those awards who are not good students and often misbehave. And there again, a kid had been picked who falls into that category. I do volunteer in the classroom as time allows and know the kids. There have been other actions in the past by this teacher that made me question why she would reward bad behavior. It's come so far that just last month my daughter said that she never gets any real reward, much less an award, from this teacher and that maybe she should just misbehave and start to get bad grades in order to get something. She was quite frustrated because she works hard to maintain good grades. I do understand that a teacher might want to give those students an incentive to try harder, or something to give them self-esteem. But if those who do the right thing are ignored that causes me to question that practice. Just like student of them month. It's to honor good academic achievement and good citizenship. The school also has awards for kids who improved their behavior, and for those who need self-esteem building and an incentive to try harder. But this teacher has refused to give anything to those students who have been academically in the top quarter of the class and have a good behavior record. Although after today's remark (not the first weird one like that either), I'm not sure she has the right mindset to teach children...
Okay, where am I going with this? It seems our society has moved towards rewarding bad behavior and not those who are normally good. It doesn't surprise me that kids act up more and more. There seems to be a reward in being bad and then good again, in behavior and academically. Those who are academically good and behave well, well there is little room for improvement and by now little recognition for their efforts. I have long questioned the everybody gets a trophy mentality. But it looks like we are taking it to the extreme now, and we are starting to give kids the idea that it is better to misbehave and not study so hard (just like my daughter is starting to think). For me as a parent, well, I find it extremely difficult to counteract that thinking and to make it clear to my child that it is better to remain responsible, to study hard, regardless of whether there is public recognition for it or not.
Well, if you made this far. Thanks for listening to my rant;) Just being extremely frustrated with the rewards system in public schools, and well, my daughter's teacher in particular. It's difficult to tell a kid in elementary school that the true reward for her hard work will come when she graduates from high school, because only then good grades count. A kid with straight As and none of those awards is still more likely to get into college, get a scholarship, and/or find a good job, then a C/D student with thousands of those awards. Of course all the kid right now sees is the trophy that's handed out, lol.
Thanks for letting me rant;)
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6 responses
@rdolphingirl (361)
• United States
1 May 09
Wow ... as a mother I can empathize with your frustration there!
This sort of thing is only part of why I homeschool my children! Have you thought about filing a complaint with the school board? This does not sound like a good learning environment for you child. While there are some good teachers, the public school system is failing more and more children these days. Not just from this type of thing, but in various areas.
Is your daughter old enough and or mature enough for you to sit down and explain things too? If you explain to her how you feel, and she gets plenty of praise and recognition at home it might help her feel better about this crummy situation at school.
Either which way, hope you figure some way to help her out there!
~Rachel
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 May 09
This is something that really hit home with me today. I noticed little stuff here and there. She is not really a bad teacher, just seems to have her priorities messed up. The school year is almost over. She usually received plenty of praise, but this teacher somehow seems to not pay as much attention. I hope that next year she'll get a better teacher again and that my other kids won't have to sit in this teacher's class.
Thanks for listening and caring;)
@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
1 May 09
You need to talk to the teacher. You are going on what your child tells you and also on a "feeling" that you got from a remark. Both of these things are questionable at best. You are expending so much energy into ranting that could be better used in COMMUNICATING. If you have problems with the teacher, and you actually want to solve them or find a reason for what you perceive, then you need to go to the source. You are dwelling on the negative and your child is responding in like manner. "Why is everyone picking on me? It's not fair!" etc.... that's what you are teaching her. Sorry, but I think you need to do something PROACTIVE in this situation (and we should do this in all situations). If you are not a part of the solution, you could be part of the problem.
@max1950 (2306)
• United States
1 May 09
i know a few teachers that'll put ahead bad students just to get rid of them, how much time does she spend on the others teaching them. so ya feelin better now ?? maybe she's getting the better one's ready for the real world. if it keep's up i'd talk to someone with authority in the principal's office.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 May 09
She actually places the students who are in the upper quarter in front of computers to learn advanced material while she teaches the rest. Alternatively, she sends them on errands or tells them to teach those who didn't get the material yet. It's really weird. At first I didn't think it was bad. It's really a frustration that developed over time. It just totally hit home with me today. The school year is almost over. I just never had encountered a teacher before who'd only sparingly give praise to those who are good and overly praises those who misbehaved because while they still misbehaved it wasn't that bad this time. I hope that next year my daughter will have a better teacher and that my other kids never have to deal with this one.
Thanks for your support and understanding.
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
1 May 09
Welcome to socialism in the classroom and this isn't a college class either, its grade school. Pretty soon we won't be keeping score at the baseball game because we don't want to hurt the losers feelings, grrrr. Everybody wins, nobody is better than anybody else, don't punish bad kids and don't give accolades to the kids who try harder to excel. Reason number 1001 why I home school my kids. I know you are a good parent and if I were you I would focus more on my child than what the teacher does, you are her inspiration, not Ms. "I Don't Want To Be Here" with these snotty little brats. Don't call what you posted a rant, its not, its you recognizing that something is wrong, this teacher won't be her educator forever, tell her how you feel and see if things change, if they don't then encourage your daughter to excel even more. Show her some examples of educated women and the opportunities that afford that hard work. Best of to you.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
2 May 09
Hey Jonesy,
I am really sorry how teachers can be harsh and stupid many a times and i dont know what parents of children can do with these teachers. teachers are the ones who would shape life of children and no one can fight with them knowing fully well they would get even with your children. but i must congratulate you for sucha nice rant and i think you should submit it on this site. this site pays 5 to 10$ if they accept your rant and this side has no referral system so not sending you any link and you dont even have to register here and send them by email and if they select yours to publish then they would send you money in your paypal.. check this site out.. i have never written any rant here but i think you can use it
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@cbhomework (545)
• Malta
1 May 09
At least, MyLot is a place where you can rant and let it go... and hopefully get some advice.
I tend to be very sensitive when it comes to my child and school, so I understand you. I am not usually that way, but when it comes up to a teacher even hinting a criticism about my son, I seem to act very differently. For example, I was a bit angry because she told me to cut my son's hair, when there are other children (boys as well) with long hair in their class, and they don't cut it. Anyway, I cut his hair and we'll see.
First of all, I suggest you talk to the teacher. Don't be angry when you talk to her, but just ask what are the policies that she is going to adopt with the good students. Tell her that you understand that other kids might need a self esteem boost, but to be honest even good kids do etc, etc
As for society, I agree with you, we send the wrong messages and the media helps as well. We know all the terrible deeds of thieves or killers and they are spread all over the news, but we don't know the good things people do. This is just like the image factor. Our shows are filled with pretty faces, and it doesn't always mean they have good minds.
So... I can go on forever on this too :) Try to look at it with a different outlook and tell your daughter that she is a big reward!!
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 May 09
It's pretty much the end of the school year now. It just really all came together for me today as to what is going on. Looks like she really doesn't have her priorities straight. She is trying to give the good students more challenging work although that often parks them in front of the computer. Academically I don't have a problem with her, it's really more the level of how she distributes her praise and what negative impact it can have on a child. I'm not sure I want to bring that up with her now that school is almost over.
I think overall this just caused me to air my frustration about how we as society have started to reward even bad behavior as long as it is better than what the person has shown before. How our just don't hurt a child's feeling and ruin their self-esteem strategy has now begun to hurt those who really do good.
And yes, you are right, it doesn't help to see all that negative stuff in the media, while good deeds are sparingly reported, if at all mentioned. I think we, our society as a whole, have to rethink our value system and what we want to see portrayed and praised. IMO the 'everybody gets a trophy' mentality isn't paying off but making matters worse.
Thanks for reading my rant and caring enough to give advice;)