The term 'housewife' makes no sense, do you agree? Well it annoys me....
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
May 1, 2009 8:49pm CST
Why does this term even exist? For anybody else out there who has had to endure being referred to with this silly term - DID YOU MARRY YOUR HOUSE? I didn't. Would I? Of course not. Whenever there is an application form or somewhere you have to enter an occupation, I see this term, sometimes also interchanged with 'homemaker' or 'stay at home mom'. I do not mind homemaker, that actually has a grain of truth to it. I laugh about 'stay at home mom' too though because I do not 'stay at home'. Once in awhile I do but I aim not to and I'm not sure how some people can just sit there or stay in the house and go nowhere. I also wonder if the kids are stir crazy or socially stunted.
I think this stupid term should be replaced by 'domestic goddess', 'domestic engineer' or 'caretaker of the family' and there should be a calculator to convert 'apprecation, love, smiles, kisses and also aggravation and impatience' into a dollar amount for your 'salary'.
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15 responses
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 May 09
I guess it's all in the way you see it. I don't see the term housewife to really mean about marrying a house (I think you were slightly joking?). I see it as a term to mean a wife whom takes care of the house. A house that needs taken care of by a woman who is married. Eh, there's many ways to say it though, some relevant, some irrelevant, but I think Housewife or "homemaker" are the best.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
Something ate my response! I still say housewife is a silly term with no meaning and I don't believe that I (or anybody) who chooses this as an occupation/profession is any 'less-than' someone who goes to school and takes out loans to become an attorney or a doctor. They learn to do and love what they do, so I have learned and loved what I do. There are sacrifices inherent to all jobs as well, it just isn't as hard when you have truly chosen what you end up doing....
Also, as far as a profession, someone whose 'job' is caring for a family is an accountant and bookkeeper, chef, taxi, teacher, psychologist, coach and cheerleader, doctor, housekeeper, among other things. That should fetch quite a salary on the auction or black market!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
4 May 09
I don't think that any way you say it is any less of a job then that of a person who works outside the home. You still have a house to take care of, a child, and grocery shopping, balancing the checkbook, etc.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
5 May 09
I have seen discussions here where someone titles it 'are you JUST a housewife' or 'how would you like to be only a housewife' or something like that. As you see, I obviously have some problems with the way it's represented, as well as the choice of word which I do not feel represents women or men who are the primary caretakers.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
2 May 09
The only thing I can make out from this discussion is that it is one hell of a discussion and you did a great job by giving words to your thoght.
I never thought that house wife will be a problem for a lady but you have given some good points, after all ladies do not marry a house but a man with whom she creates a house. So, it would be good if they are called house maker or home maker.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
This term seriously makes no sense. I am tired, sick and tired, of seeing this word used all the time by people I would THINK are socially conscious, decent, educated individuals. Now I don't know, maybe some of them are not but one thing I very much dislike is the attitude some people have that goes along with the term. I have seen people say 'just a housewife'. JUST?! As in 'only'? Well that makes it sound like a low-down worth nothing job. On the contrary, this is a pretty IMPORTANT job. Listen up you CEOs, attorneys, doctors, and scientists! YOU might make a lot of money but does your job really do anything important? A small child cannot live without someone to take care of them. Your job would continue on without you, someone else could do it. Not so with a family. When someone else takes care of your family all the time, you have failed. It's called a divorce, abandonment, etc etc lol.
Like I told someone else in another discussion, I am totally behind the idea of equality. I am totally for a single dad or a single mom, and a dad who takes care of the family and home while the mom goes to work is JUST as cool as a mom who takes care while the dad goes to work! This is not what I have a problem with. What I do have a problem with is anybody who looks DOWN on someone who chose to be a caretaker of their family AS a profession. That's all. I also would like the general term people use to make some solid sense, not just be a stupid made-up word that has a definition which is clearly not... meaningful.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
5 May 09
Well like I said originally, the word is still dumb because I am not a housewife, and any woman who primarily takes care of her family and home is not a housewife. If you ARE one, then I guess you don't have a husband lol.
There are actually some men I know who are the primary caretakers of the households. They take care of the kids and they cook and clean and pay bills and entertain and discipline everybody. I realize that it's much more likely for a woman to do that but that doesn't mean men cannot be excellent at it. Do I think in general it is HARDER for them to do it, even if they wanted to? Yes, I do. Men think in different ways and have to come up with ways of reminding/remembering to do many things women just do without thinking. I mean I'd make sure my daughter got a shower and didn't have her shoes on the wrong feet and wasn't wearing an orange tshirt and a maroon skirt... but there are days when daddy probably wouldn't notice, nor care lol. Men and women have different priorities, even as far as caring for kids.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
4 May 09
Oh, you look really really really angry. That can't come overnight. Something must have happened in your personal life to give fire to your thoughts.
Seems that you don't have a problem with the term 'housewife' but the way people look at wife who is taking care of her family. It is being said that behind every successful person there is a lady. It is a lady who gives strength to a man to become a business tycoon or become a world class player because it is the wife who sacrifices in her life.
The other thing is that I don't think a guy can do house hold job better than a girl becaues men aren't that patient to take care of his children, belive it or not but we find it difficult.
@VotreAmie (3028)
• United States
2 May 09
I completely agree with you. When I hear housewife sometimes I think house maid or house servant... Or somebody who just sits at home doing nothing. haha I laughed at your did you marry your house. Anyway I think it is a stupid term too and it should be replaced with another term more graceful.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
Absolutely! People who believe there is nothing wrong with the term STILL think that it's a job low on the totem pole, as in 'just' or 'only', and they will cite things like you do cooking and cleaning and lousy chores that a lot of people really don't like doing. It would be nice to sit and do nothing, and that's actually accomplishable now and then but not consistently unless you employ someone to do all the stuff you're not doing lol. I guess that would defeat the purpose of you being there to do it, right?
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 May 09
I don't like the term either. It makes me think of the women of the 50's & 60's when I was growing up. It represented everything i did NOT want to be when I grew up. You know...women sitting around sipping coffee, gossiping during breaks from cleaning the house and preparing meals....june cleaver types. I don't think mos women who stay home with their children these days fit that image. I like your term, "house goddess". It is much more fitting.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
My best friend and I make jokes about this all the time. As IF either of us get to sit there and watch soaps and eat bon bons. I can also tell you that I do NOT wear a dress, I don't go and put makeup on and get my hair blown out before my hubby gets home, nor do I wear an apron or say 'yes dear'. Puh-lease.
I am as against the whole 'june cleaver' idea as you are, and I am as un-fifties as they come. However, I believe that any choice is acceptable, and should be. I also believe people should tailor their lifestyle to their priorities, so if you LOOOOVE your career and want to chase after it your whole life, you obviously don't want to have 10 kids. If you love kids and have enough money and have no interest in a career, maybe your chosen career is... to have 10 kids. See what I mean? All I'm saying is don't have a bunch of kids and then go to work for the next 25 years and never see them, or don't stay home and grumble for the next 25 years because you never wanted kids. Make your personality work with your chosen lifestyle and you'll be happy.
I'll be honest too, I really dislike cleaning. I would take a housekeeper in a heartbeat. If I ever find someone cheap enough, I would even get someone to come weekly or twice a month NOW lol. If I work part time in the future, ONLY while my daughter is at school, I would definitely be able to hire somebody. It's not even that anything is messy, I just prefer to do other things and it's such a waste of time lol.
I generally make plans of some sort every day. The few days I don't are usually days when something happens, so even a quiet day can easily be spiced up just by the luck of the draw. I know my sister doesn't like cooking, she probably feels it is as much of a waste of time as I feel about cleaning, but somehow both of us manage to do a passable job of both fairly often. Of course I should be sleeping too but I had something else to do online which is why I got up to do it real quick and look where that got me... back here again!
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
2 May 09
Perhaps it's a euphemism for "house slave"?
Lash
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@chatty101 (28)
• Ireland
2 May 09
Did we marry our houses .... ha ha I love the way you see this. I completely agree. I hate having to tick the "housewife" or "Homemaker" boxes. I think the term Zookeeper of small poopie animals and general slave is better suited.
I vote for "domestic goddess"
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
I once got all over my older daughter and reminded her that mom is spelled MOM and not SLAVE lol. Zookeeper of small poopie animals? I like that. So.. no, I didn't marry a house, I'm not a slave, and it's really silly to say i'm not employed either because I am - my boss is five years old...I don't tell her that part though.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
2 May 09
interesting... i never really think about this after you mention this in your post... a house wife = marry to your wife... you are quite right... and that's what women who stay at home, doing household chores and looking after the children had been called all these times... house wives... may be the term should be change now that you mention this... :-) take care and have a nice day...
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
Yep! Nothing wrong with being a wife - but a wife to my husband. I am not a wife to or for anything or anybody else lol. Also, the idea that people who don't leave for an office, plant, or some other location to punch into a time clock in the morning actually stay at home is completely ludicrous.... some people likely do but the assumption and thus the term 'stay at home' or a question of 'oh, you don't WORK so you stay at home' is a load of crap. Of course I work. I don't get a paycheck signed by a company every week though.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
17 May 09
LoL I don't really care much about that word either, but it doesn't bother that much either.
Regardless of what name it is given, our job is always the same, and no change in name would change what we have to do anyways :) I really like your calculation/conversion idea. It sounds much more fair :):)
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
3 May 09
i dont like it either.. probably because its not my choice but im stuck at home because of health reasons and cant work.. but to me housewife is like the 50s domestic stepford wife and i hate that crap!
another thing i hate is surveys that ask if you are a house wife or stay at home mom in the same question.. i choose yes then it automatically thinks i have kids which i dont.. makes me feel like they are thinking "why the heck are you at home with no kids?!?"
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
2 May 09
Hey mommyboo! I definitely would have to agree with you!
Whoever came up with that ridiculous term should be killed!
What does that term mean exactly? You are not, as you said
married to your house! I definitely think that there are
other terms that are way more suitable! I like the ones
that you suggested too! I think that a woman that does
take care of her family should be given a salary too! It is
a full time job! It is actually a 24/7 job! Now what man
works those hours? None! Would they want to switch places?
I doubt it! So, then the job of a "domestic goddess",
"domestic engineer" or whatever you would like to be called
is definitely worth alot more salary wise then any other job
that any man can do since the hours are way longer! And you
don't get any time off at all ever! No vacations, no sick
days, no weekends! No nothing! So ladies, why not form a union
so that we can strike! What do you say to that?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
Totally! I'm sure that along with stilettos and bras, corsets and other torture devices, men were responsible for the term 'housewife'. Or perhaps it was one of those bra burning 'i'll never be barefoot and pregnant' women from the freedom movement that swore she'd climb to the top of the corporate ladder before the men! Stupid woman lol.
I read this hilarious email once... about a man who arrived home late from work one evening. He pulled into his driveway to see his lawn littered with toys and his children running around half dressed outside. Horrified, he rushed inside. The front room was a mess, unvacuumed, clutter everywhere. He began to be worried about his wife. Rushing through the kitchen, he encountered dishes and mess everywhere, the trash overflowing, the pantry ransacked, and no dinner cooking. There was dog food all over and dog hair as well. Heading past the bathroom he noticed magazines on the floor, towels strewn all over, toilet paper wadded up and trailing down the hall, toothpaste in the sink, and fingerprints on the mirror. Upstairs there were dirty clothes on the floor, cups and napkins, a stack of bills unopened by the computer, etc. Going inside the bedroom, the bed was unmade, blinds unopened, laundry overflowing the hamper, and he could hear water running in the bathroom. He ran inside and there sat his wife, soaking blissfully in the bathtub reading a novel. WHAT HAPPENED?? he asked her. You always ask me what I do all day - she said. Well, today I didn't do it.
That sums up what 'just a housewife' frigging DOES ALL DAY quite nicely. lol.
@Rainegurl (2156)
• Philippines
5 May 09
Hi, mommyboo I have no problem with the term "housewife". My problem is when there is a "just" before "housewife". I have great respect for homemakers. And I do not like it when some people look down on them. I think these people do not understand the responsibilities a housewife has. I myself do not want to become a housewife because I do not think I can handle a 24-hour job like that. It takes a lot of talent, patience and hardwork to be able to become a "housewife". I hope someday people would see the word "housewife" and feel in awe with that occupation.
Take care!
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
2 May 09
Good thoughts there.
@Somecowgirl give a "serious" explanation about the term and I do agree with her.
But are you serious about being called "domestic goddess"? What if one is a plain housewife? (Ooops, that term again. )
As for the "salary", I do think there's no money, even with so much 0s, enough to compensate what mothers/wives do for their kids and husbands.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
Well, if someone thinks so little of their profession or occupation that they WANT to be called 'just a plain (insert word here)', that's fine with me, but I will not sink down to that level myself. I take pride in what I do and I do love it most of the time. There are little irritations of course but none of them are as bad as having to deal with employer-related things. Even having a super cool boss did not make me LOVE my job, it was still a job, which to me meant a simple means to an end. It was something I had to do in exchange for money which gave me a nice life. It was nothing more, nothing less, I was good at what I did but in terms of fulfillment, there was ALWAYS something missing. Now that I get to spend time with my daughter, whatever was missing is not. I'm not super young any more and I really don't think I will ever find any sort of 'job' that rivals what I do now. It's too bad I don't get paid, I mean that would make it just about perfect. I guess since there's no monetary compensation, the least we could EXPECT from people is some respect and gratitude for the 24/7 hours, having to still perform when we are sick, and all the honors we should get for major multitasking! I daresay most executives would probably run for the hills after ONE day being the 'ceo' for a family of 5! Bye bye hour long corporate lunch break, leather chair, and quiet office. Bye bye associates and underlings who hang on your every word and try to impress you. Yeah right. Life isn't like that in the real world.
@chookie1971 (2271)
• Australia
2 May 09
Here is something to think about. There is the term housewife, why don't we hear househusband for the men?
I really suppose it depends on how you were brought up and where to determine what term that you use.
I use housewife a lot. I don't really use stay at home mom much. I don't even use homemaker at all.
Here are some other things I find interesting about different terms for the same thing. If an Australian tells an American, that they like to wear thongs on their feet in summer. The American would think that Australians would be crazy for wearing underwear on their feet.
The American term for the same foot wear is flip flops.
I just have to remember that if I do go over to america, to refer the australian thongs as flip flops so that the americans know what I am talking about. I don't want an american to think I wear underwear on my feet.
Why can't we have the one term for the whole world to make things easier.
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
2 May 09
Well actually we do often hear the term house husband, at least in the West, to describe those men who have ignored the cultural gender roles and stay at home doing the domestic duties. Of course the macho crowd call them SNAGS (Sensitive NewAge Guys), although I always referred to myself in that role as a WIMP (Well Integrated Male Partner).
Lash
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@net101 (157)
• India
2 May 09
I have a Radom House Dictionary which I inherited from my father 50 years back. According to this dictionary - 'house-wife' means:
the woman in charge of a household esp. a wife who does all or most of the work in her own household and who holds no other job. The term 'housewife' appears reasonable.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 May 09
The person who defined the term is clearly not familiar with the language. Regardless of how they wrote the definition, the word still smacks of... well something wrong. I have another discussion that talks about the whole 'stay at home' concept, another misconception. Not only do people who choose to take care of their families NOT marry their house, they don't STAY IN IT ALL THE TIME.
I really am not sure what to think about all the responses from people who believe there is nothing wrong with the term. Of course, those are probably the same people who actually DO stay home all the time and get bored, OR they are the people who would never stay home and they work 85 hours a week instead.
One more thing - no other job - as if a wife ought to have TWO jobs to be equal or 'compete' in society? Is that where people are truly going with this? Sometimes I almost feel like that's what people think, that in order to be on equal footing, women, especially MOTHERS - are expected to not only be a good mother and wife but also to work for an outside employer full time? Give me a break. How many MEN are expected, even underhandedly, to work TWO fulltime jobs in order to be considered a good man, husband, father? Heh. But people routinely almost expect a woman to have a career on top of taking care of her family. You can't imagine how much this attitude disappoints me, it's 2009.... everything ought to be acceptable, from a woman on the moon, fighting on the front line, to a Mr. Mom with 10 kids and no wife or a man who works and a woman who takes care of her family. Seriously.
@Carpathian (582)
• United States
3 May 09
Well, If you really want to know what I think! Here it goes! I was asked to fill out a paper to let the job hunters (unemployment office) find me a job. That is another story!!! I was married just over three years and was looking for a part time job. The lady asked what do you do. I said, " I am a doctor, chef, house keeper, daycare worker, therapist, referee, transporter and account." She asked, "So why do you need a part-time job?" I said, "Yea, my husband says I don't do enough!" ha ha
She just said, "Your a wife and mother right!" You do more then enough!
She found me a nice simple relaxing job that I enjoyed!
What you should put down when they ask you what you do. You are the "Joint Mayor of (Your Family Name) resident." Or, Vice President of (Your Family Name). I like to say, "I am Queen of Carpathian Family!"
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