If only loosing weight could reduce my diabetes
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
June 3, 2009 2:42pm CST
I went to the doctor the other day, and he said my sugar was still up. Yet I have also lost 6 lb. Now my father had diabetes, type 2 *(the bad bad horrible kind that you get as a punishment for being fat according to what I heard from the diabetic books.) and yet my face looks withdrawn, I have wrinkles under my neck unless I smile. But I cannot lose anything around my stomach.
So I was wondering whether it is harder to get rid of diabetes if it runs in the family, even if you eat properly.
I sort of envy those people who were grossly overweight, and then went on a diet and suddenly their diabetes disappears, but with me it is not happening.
Trouble is I never had much of a sweet tooth, so how come I got stuck with it? Was my body designed to get it because it runs in the family?
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@hairypits (294)
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4 Jun 09
Right, I am a qualified nutritionist (UK) and I would advise you to read up on your condition and diets that can combat it. Many health systems in many countries don't support the eating plans that actually work but I would read the book Protein Power by Micheal R Eades and an easy plan with online support is Neris and India's Idiot Proof Diet book - the website is pig2twig.co.uk/forums
Please take this information seriously because I have many acquaintances whose diabetes has significantly improved and in some cases eliminated the need for the more drastic medication.
Your bloating around your middle could be an aversion to carbs in which case again - read the books I have suggested. If I can be of any more help please IM me
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
10 Jun 09
Although one factor that you can acquire diabetes is when you are obese. But losing weight is not the only way you can get rid of diabetes. When your pancreas is already not functioning anymore then you are forever be watching your sugar levels. It is our pancreas that produces insulin that allows sugar to be use by our cells as food. Without it our sugar level in our blood would become higher since there is no insulin in your body. The only solution to that is through insulin injections that could stabilize your blood sugar. Although there are medications that could also suppress sugar from going high but when your pancreas is not producing enough insulin for your body that you are required to take insulin injections.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Jun 09
My pancreas produces enough insulin, it is just that something is preventing the insulin from going where it should. So I have plenty of insulin, it is not going where it should. That is the problem.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
5 Jun 09
www.diabetes.ca/about-diabetes/nutrition/
If you go to the website of the Canadian Diabetis Association you will find lots of information. Note also you cannot get rid of diabetis, only control it. It does not suddenly disappear. It will also tell you that age, family history and overweight play a role in it. Fat around the middle is the worst. Try and join a program that concentrates on core strenghening. Walking is good but in most cases is not enough unless you walk long distances at a very fast clip every day. Good luck.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
6 Jun 09
P.S.
Flak who posted above me has given you excellent information. Also when was your last A1C test? It is a blood test that measures the average blood sugar control over the last 3 or 4 months. If you are diabetic your target range is under 7.0% Normal ranges in under 6.0%.
Also in the latest issue of Solutions, Canada's Family Guide to Home Health Care and Wellness you will find an excellent article on Diabetis. It is called Staying healthy with Diabetis, Ask Questions be informed.
It touches on the following topics that affect diabetis:
Blood Sugar (Blood Glucose)
Blood Pressure
Healthy Eating
Physical Activity
Weight
Good carbs, bad carbs
Low Glycemic Index Foods
Medium Glycemic Index Foods
High Glycemic Index Foods
And More topics
This magazine is usually on display in hospitals and other clinics and doctors offices
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
16 Jun 09
I really don't know what kind of recipes you checked. With all due respect I think you are mistaken about a lot of things concerning diabetes. You don't get it from eating meat and potatoes. All literature from reputable organizations such as the Canadian and American Diabetes Organizations will tell you that many factors contribute to a person getting the desease such as age, family history, diet and physical activity. Also "meat" that is, protein has no carbs in it and will never convert into sugar in your blood. It may raise your cholestorol and put on weight but never your sugar. I also urge you to consult with a registered dietician in your local diabetes clinic. In another post I mentioned the poster that you can get free of charge from the Canadian Diabetes Association, giving you guidelines on suggested portions of any foods. There is also a brochure called "Just the Basics" with helpful tips until you see a registered dietician. In there is nothing of the kind that you talk about.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Jun 09
I checked the recipes and they are the same old thing, high protein, and very little vegetables. I thought that diabetes was also a deprivation disease, you got it because you did not eat enough fiber and ate mostly meat and potatoes and meat and carbs and now they go and write recipes with the same oh same oh.
It is like when we were at the hospital for my husband's panic attack, I said I was diabetic and I got the rice pudding and the creamy white stuff, he got the green salad.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Jun 09
I was sort of a moderate salt user and for sugar, it was mostly around after Halloween and Christmas that I had the most sweet stuff. Most of the time I was into eating cashews and nuts. But when we were at the motel and I looked at my neck it was all full of wrinkles, but my tummy was still as bulgy as ever.
@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
4 Jun 09
they say that stomach fat (yeah, the kind that is hard to lose because its right around the middle) and the kind that make you look pregnant, does seem to be part of the fuction of causing type 2 diabeties.
if you work on also cutting back on the simple carbs - and really, try to give up corn - you might find that the diabeties isn't quite as bad
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Jun 09
It sounds like a good idea, but I doubt that my medical insurance would pay for it.
And I am wary, since my niece had it. (she has no judgement and they have to watch her or she will eat anyting in sight. But I will look into it.
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@lagirl1966 (709)
• United States
14 Jun 09
I recently found out that I have type 2 diabetes. Losing 6 pounds is great, but to see a difference in your blood sugar you have to lose alot more. My dad had type 1 insulin dependent. He passed away in 05. They told him his feet would have to be amputated and he had cancer also he was told. He went into hospice and stopped his dialysis. He didn't do what the doctors said. He ate sweets, stopped his medication including the insulin and deteriorated. I had to watch him continuously pass out and fall down almost daily. I am not going to do that. I was devestated when I found this out. I think it is from my weight. I have also lost 6 pounds in the past two weeks and I am going to take it all off. You can reverse diabetes but you have to make sure you exercise, watch what you eat, and take your meds. Eventually my doctor said I will be able to stop the medication. Good luck!
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@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
3 Jun 09
i'm sorry to hear about your illness... i don't really understand whether diabetes is a genetic thing or not... but i think it is in some sort... so if you have a history in your family that has diabetes, you are more than likely to get it as well... may be ask your doctor about it for more information to get rid of your diabetes through your diet... may be your doctor can help you... good luck... take care and have a nice day...
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Jun 09
We have a couple of centers, but they seem to have the idea that you get diabetes because you eat too much.
@FlaKNMB (831)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Hi, suspenseful. I understand your frustration. Dealing with diabetes can be quite difficult, especially if your doctor doesn't know what he's talking about. One good thing is that Type I (juvenile) diabetes is "the bad, bad horrible kind." They don't produce insulin so have to take insulin in order to survive. Diabetes (both I and II) does seem to be genetic; however, the number of people being diagnosed with diabetes is on the rise because we are becoming heavier and less active. I don't think people who inherit a tendency toward diabetes have a harder time beating it.
You say you've never had much of a sweet tooth. Carbs - breads, potatoes, rice, pizza, rolls, etc. - are the things that make my sugar spike. This is true for a lot of people that I know who have Type II diabetes.
Are you taking any medicine to help control your blood sugar? When was the last time you had a Hemoglobin A1c? Do you know what your numbers are/were?
I think the best thing for you to do is search the Internet for good sites with great information. I think the American Diabetes Association, American Association on Health and Disability, and Diabetes.com all have some very good info.
I hope this bit of info helps and GOOD LUCK!
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Jun 09
I take glyburide, but I have read up in a book written by a doctor who specializes in diabetss that it is not good for people as it goes again extensive exercise. Okay if you walk slowly, but I go like a house on fire. I am not ezactly a big bread eater, but the trouble is all those breads, potatoes, rice, etc. (forget pizza rolls, they cost too much) are cheap. I have been trying herbal medicines and that seems to help as it seems my sugar is unusually high. Oh the bad horrible kind does not mean the suffering it is the attitude of others.
If I had type one diabetes, no one would point a finger at me and say that I got it because I ate junk food, would they? It is like a social stigma, the same when you had a heart attack, or a stroke, it is those bad food you eat that got you that way.
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I know that a lot of our body makeup comes from our genetics. I've weighed the same for 15 years, my dad told me I could eat whatever I wanted until I was 40 and after that I'd start to put on some weight. Its true, I started an exercise program and lost about 10 lbs in one month and I wasn't even trying. I know its not fair to you to have to deal with this but you can talk with your doctor about how to loose weight, if it comes off too fast that's unhealthy. Slow but sure is better. Good luck.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Jun 09
I started to put on weight when I was thirty,and then I learned that is what happened to my father. He started to put on weight when he was thirty. That should have told me something. I do a lot of walking and I find I lose weight easier. Oh and I could talk to my doctor who is the tall skinny type who never has any problem losing weight, in fact he should gain some.
Now if he were the short stocky type, it would be different.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
4 Jun 09
Hello suspense my advice to you is not to worry. Some persons when they worried they gain weight. It is not that you eat more put it seems as if the muscles in the body enlarge. Just continue to do what you know is healthy for you and think not about the rate and then you will see the result in a week or two. Take care of yourself
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@mariposaman (2959)
• Canada
4 Jun 09
If you did not want diabetes you should have picked different parents.
You can live a quite normal life on pill and maintaining a good diet. Not to do so can make you life miserable with sickness and amputations and organ damage, but I guess you know all that by now. It is a struggle I know but you have to make the choices. Best of luck.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Jun 09
I always felt that if my grandfather had not married an Austrian woman, I would have been better looking. My brother took after my mother's family who were on the tall side, but me, I took after my father who took after his mother. Seems rather bad luck all around.
@Kanani79 (22)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I think over time you will eventually reduce the high sugar and the diabetes will fade if not go away completely. I'm no doctor but I believe it takes a lot more then just losing 6 lbs to get rid of diabetes completely. I guess it all depends on how much you weigh now and what your ideal weight is meant to be. I'm not sure if diabetes is genetic but I guess you can be predispostioned to it. Good luck suspenseful.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
9 Jun 09
It runs in my family, and we are not heavy eaters, but I did have an operation and part of my part below my waist was cut away (female problems( so that my stomach is weak. I have been trying to get it down, but it is impossible. Only I hate seeing all that weight going from everywhere except my stomach.
@carrotman92 (446)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I just did a speech on diabetes in health class today. Yes that would make me 17 yrs old. anyway, i know alot about it since my dad has it. and has had it for 40+ years. he is type 1 ( juvinile onset). Now i am 6'6 and 150 lbs, 30 pounds under weight. I try and eat and eat, i could eat a cow and not change my weight. I excersize daily and i do try to watch my diet alittle. I do splurge on the sugar sometimes, but then i go and run it off. I have a fat mall around my belly area, from all the sugar. In the past 5 years it has gotten bigger and bigger, with less restrictions i have on eating sugar. In the last 6-8 months i have been trying to be more and more active. that means, running more, excersizing in general more, pushups and situps to try and make this fat area leave. and it has shrinked to 3/4 the size it was. So Diabetes runs in my family, so i have a very high risk of getting it, plus i am guy so there is a greater risk.but if you continue to excersize and stuff like that, plus watching your diet and not eating to many sugars you should lessen your chance of getting it. There is no cure for Diabetes, if there was, my dad would have gotten rid of it a long time ago! :P but there are instances that it does not show signs of being in your body, but if you go back the the routine of eating fatty foods , lots of sugar and not excersizing, it can show up again.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Jun 09
Well if you get type 1 diabetes, there is not as much blame set to you. In fact, people think of you being courageous, but type 2 diabetes is a different thing all together. There is a blame attached to it and they put you in the same box. you eat too much,you ate too many sweets and you get it.
I feel diabetes is a lack diet. If you are poor and all you had are starchy foods, you will get diabetes, but not many are courageous to say that.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
17 Jun 09
as far as i know diabetes can be acquire through your ancestors ..so if the family history has diabetes and your not(assuming only)then you must be very careful..eat moderately and live a life healthily by keeping your body fit..(by exercising and the likes) then maybe you can control it at least..
@albert2412 (1782)
• United States
4 Jun 09
Vanadel sulphate, chromium, selvester something or other, are all used to lower disabetes. Benphotamine puts thiamine back into the cells to prevent diabetes. I would you natural things to help your diabetes on the web. I personally like to look at Curezone for natural cures, but there are a number of places to look.
@newzealtralian (3930)
• Australia
10 Jul 09
Diabetes is a life long condition with no cure. While diet and exercise will help in controlling the condition, it will never be gone. And, that applies to all forms of the disease.
The problem around your stomach may not be excess weight, but untoned muscles. I have the same problem, especially after having 5 kids. This can seem to take forever to get it to go away (no matter if you have diabetes or not).
One of the easiest ways to exercise your abdominal area is by sitting on a gym ball when using the computer. i have found this is helping with my back muscles too, as i have to rely on my own body weight to keep on my perch.
Weightloss isn't a one fit solution for everyone, nor are the results. Without extensive consultation between a gp, dietician and personal trainers, most people don't succeed, or end up going about it the wrong way. Obviously, not everyone can afford a personal trainer, but the gp and dietician are usually enough to help just lose weight.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
4 Jun 09
Heredity does have a hand in your weight, I know. I have trouble losing, too.
When I was 18 I joined Weight Watchers and lost a whole bunch of weight. It took a long time and was hard, but I did it. You'd think at that age it would come off quickly but not for me. Anyway, they told me that the weight comes off but not always where we want it to, when we want it to--but it will eventually come off! My stomach was the LAST to go! But go it did.
Be patient with yourself. Continue with your healthy eating and although the weight won't come off where you want it to, when you want it to, it will leave eventually.
I've found that 6 small meals a day works the best for me. Others cut out all snacks and that works for them with 3 meals a day. Everyone is different. Find out what your body needs and feed it accordingly. You might need several small meals or a few big ones, who knows?
Since my surgery and learning about the dangers of salt, I've cut out nearly all salt and that has helped a lot. I use salt substitute when I think I need salt and I'm sure that has contributed to the 18 pounds I've lost in the past three weeks.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
4 Jun 09
I think that in your case it is gentic. MY FIL had it and so did my husband. My children try to keep their weight down as they know that they have a one in four chance of getting it. The important thing is to keep the sugar level stble. My husband did better when he was on insulin. This insulin really helped him. Are you back into your house yet after the renovations?
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@gypsywoman344 (214)
• United States
4 Jun 09
With the things I have been discovering lately, I think almost every disease has a genetic disposition . By that I mean that the total makeup of our being add up to what makes one person susptible to diseases and another not. Even within families the individual has a different combination of heredity factors. That's why I believe some people are more susptible to diabeties than others ( the people having diabieties because of eating factore and the same ones to diminish thier diabities with weight loss). Some people are subject to weight gain because of heredity and some strictly because of eating paterns. I believe to be true of such things as MS, aides, hypertension, high cholesteral etc etc etc. It's not to say the some people do it to themselves with lifestyle , but; some people are mote susptable because of heredity.
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