Are YOU (Or Your Wife) a BABY KILLER?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
June 6, 2009 1:38pm CST
According to some people, including Jill Stanek who writes for one of our rambling myLotter's favorite news sources WND, if you take birth control pills you're KILLING BABIES!!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66215
http://www.thepillkills.com/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14230289362
"On Saturday, June 6, pro-lifers across the country will be participating in the largest protest ever against the birth control pill and other birth control products. Last year, participants across the United States shared the facts on exactly how the pill kills babies. This year, we will expose the sordid details surrounding the tragic effects these chemicals have on women. We will emphasize the truth about how the pill kills women.
Join American Life League and protest the pill. Help us unmask the truth and hopefully save lives. You can do this by having a presence outside of doctors’ offices, pharmacies, Planned Parenthood clinics and other family planning facilities, or even out on the sidewalk at a busy intersection. Wherever it is – help get the word out!"
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The American Life League apparently claimed the protest was being held today because it was the anniversary of their first protest against the pill and other forms of birth control but the actually anniversary is tomorrow, June 7. I guess it was too much to resist having this ridiculous protest on the same day as Dr. George Tiller's funeral!
The next time you see Jill Stanek's name in a link in an anti-choice discussion please consider the source. This fanatic has no credibility whatsoever!
Annie
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28 responses
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
6 Jun 09
That's a little over the top I'd say. Scientists say that women have a fertilization take place more often than they know about and that each of us women have been pregnant without knowing it. So to say the pill kills babies doesn't make any sense. If you're going to look at it that way then how many men have committed mass murder with a Victoria's Secret catalog?
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@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
6 Jun 09
So why isn't someone suing Victoria Secrets LOL
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
6 Jun 09
That would be like saying every single sperm that doesn't fertalize an egg is a killed baby. Every egg we allow to bleed from our body each month unfertalized is a killed baby.
What sort of world would we live in if we didn't use birth control?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I guess we only need to look to the third world countries where there is massive starvation and disease to know. Quite a few years ago when Geraldo Riviera still had a show on CNBC he had a guest one who was part of the religious right/anti-abortion movement and and Geraldo kept pressing and pressing him to admit that the ultimate agenda of SOME of the extremist so-called pro-lifers was to outlaw all forms of birth control because they considered them tantamount to abortion aka "baby killing". He finally admitted it. Just last year it was put on Bush's HHS website that birth control was equated with abortion sometimes.
Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Great points. What has amazed or confused me for years now is how the right is so quick to condemn former President Clinton or John Edwards for their affairs but when one of "theirs" does it it's perfectly fine. To me cheating on one's spouse is WRONG, but if you have to choose which is worse between someone admittedly making a mistake and choosing to work at the marriage or being a serial wife dumper for the other woman I'd say the latter is worse in my book. Clinton and Edwards cheated on their wives so they're scumbags through and through for the rest of their lives; guys like Newt Gingrich, Rudy Guiliani and John McCain cheated on their wives but they got divorced and are now married to the one they cheated WITH so that's OK...WTF...???
Annie
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I'm sure it goes both ways, I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to cheating in politics, lol. I choose my political stance based on issues that are most important to me, not on who has been divorced or cheated on their wife or whatever else. Honestly what these politicians do in their free time in their choice, who am I to judge. Unless they're using tax dollars to pay for hookers (Elliot Spitzer) then I don't really care.
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@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Well Annie this is my belief, if it is really meant for a woman to have a child no birth control can stop her from getting pregnant. How do I know this? I was faithful to birth control and got pregnant twice on it. Just call me Fertle Mertle!
Just keep on teaching your children abstanance only and when the hormones begin to rage you are going to sound like WOODSTOCK from Charlie Brown. Then when your daughter begins to have a baby every 13 months and has 5 by the time she is 21 years old and can't take of them and now the burden is put on the grandparents whcih also can not financially handle it, then all the children go to the state are placed in any foster home it can get them in. All the children separated. Tell me where are the family values in this. You complain about welfare now just wait if something like this would happen to creep up.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Great post! Where are the family values, indeed. The thing is, to these people the solution for the increased welfare rolls is to simply do away with it. They choose to simply ignore the children placed in foster homes because they no longer are their problem. Getting them carried nine months and delivered is all they care about. Once they get here, how they or their parents survive doesn't matter.
Annie
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Unmask the truth? You mean doctors haven't been telling women about the potential risks from taking the Pill for years and years now? Those sneaky b@stards! Personally, I preferred the convenience of the Depo shot for long term killing without the hassle of killing every day. My daughter had her tubes tied...I wonder if that qualifies her as a serial killer? 
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@heathcliff (1415)
• United States
7 Jun 09
I've heard that. Maybe we should turn to the law here. Demand a writ of Habeas Corpus!
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Yeah I mean, the doctor's never tell you about the risks or that it won't work if you don't use it regularly, and that information DEFINITELY isn't included in every single package of birth control you buy.
Only extremely stupid people can honestly buy into this crap.
@meandmy3 (2227)
• United States
6 Jun 09
the only people who would think or believe this are those that have no idea how the body works. Birth Control prevents pregnancy, it makes your eggs infertile, as a result no baby is made..some people and their ignorance really gets on my nerves at times. THey really expect us to believe this crap.
People educate yourselfs do not depend on any media outlet to do it for you
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@TheRepublicMenu (290)
• United States
18 Jun 09
I wonder what Jesus must think of women who take birth control pills.
We are really living on borrowed times here. What was once a great moral nation is now a morally challenged nation.
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I hate WND. World Nut Daily is more like it. They are whack jobs. I cannot agree with a single piece of crap that they spew. It seems that they'd rather there be starving children born to poor families that can barely support the three or four kids they've already got. And the pill doesn't kill anything. It PREVENTS pregnancy. It just blocks the sperm from attaching to an egg. A baby is NEVER created. How is that being a 'baby killer'? I say kill the lot of them. I'm tired of the blah blah blah crap they enjoy hearing themselves say on a daily basis. I think we'd be better off.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
6 Jun 09
It doesn't block the sperm, it just fools the body into thinking it's already pregnant so the egg could be fertilized but doesn't attach itself. Even without the pill a good number of fertilized eggs never attach.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Pills don't kill babies. They don't even kill fetuses. Both the preventive bc pills and "emergency" contraceptives prevent fertilization. Most of the time thing doesn't even manage to make it to a zygote. These people need to do the world a favor and STFU.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 Jun 09
Wow......lol. So, I am, as you put it, "anti-choice", because I am pro life, (except when the life of the mother is in danger or there is no chance of a viable full term pregnancy) but I am far from anti birth control. Birth control prevents the need for abortion. Annie, this woman represents the pro-life movement like Shirly roper represents baptists or like Osama bin Laden represents Islam. She is a bit of a nut, ok, so she is a lot of a nut, but she hardly represents the main stream pro-life movement.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Jun 09
X, but just like Osama Bin Laden, when no one from the sane part of your movement comes out and calles them out they are considered to be main stream. Remember all of the outrage when muslim leaders didn't come out and attack people like Bin Laden when they would make these threats on the US. Your movement either needs less nuts (good luck with that one), or more people to stand up with a rational explanation of their movement, and denounce nuts like this idiot, and people like Randall Terry.
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
6 Jun 09
This is a tough topic. But I might as well give my two cents
worth of thoughts about this matter. I'm not againts birth control
the reason is if women don't use it, we will be over populated in this
world. Just imagined how many babies will born in to this world if there's
no contraception. I agree there is a need for control. If a medicine could
be found to stop unwanted pregnancy and this particular medicine wont kill
sperm cell them I'm one hundred percent supporting it. But how? Or is it possible?
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Annie, I wonder what "rambling myLotter's" you could be taking about? I have read these post, and I agree that neither our "rambling myLotter's ", nor this idiot Stanek has a clue what they are talking about. These people make me laugh, how is it that you can't justify save the life of a mother, but you can justify taking the life of a doctor?
I was listening to the great Randall Terry on Monday, and someone called up and asked him if he considered every women in the world a murder. He asked her why she said this, and the caller said that every month an egg is released in a womens body, and if it isn't fertilized then it is destroyed. Isn't that a potential life that is being destroyed? Aren't their millions of eggs dying every day? The great Mr. Terry had no answer to these questions, he just avoided them, and moved on.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Jun 09
I've seen that idiot (Terry) in action up close and in person! Back in 1992 before Clinton was elected I attended a rally and Terry and his minions were there holding up pictures of what looked like about six month old babies with their heads cut off, to describe just one of the atrocious pictures they had. They were harassing elderly people and young kids, including members of the high school band who were playing there. Did you hear his "semi-condemnation" of Tiller's killer? I guess we know where our rambling one gets her talking points.
Annie
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Annie, I listened to him talk about the pro life movement and christianity. He actually said that the Crusades were justified. This guy is completely crazy.
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@britt_200 (1226)
• United States
6 Jun 09
lol this just makes me laugh...this is so ridiculous!!!
i dont even know what to say!
wow...some people are ridiculous.
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@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Well, while I may agree that birth control is bad for our bodies... we live in a day and age where our society is so dependent on money to keep things running smoothly. And with this is now a lack of money. And so it is impossible to have larger families as it was before. I personally would not mind dying at a younger age from having many children because my children can live on as my gift to the world. But, until our society can become less dependent on currency to raise our families it is not in our children's best interest to have a large family. I don't agree with abortion... I don't deny someone their right to an abortion, but I do feel that it is wrong. Being on birth control is a precaution on my part to keep me from being put in the situation where I would have to decide, be poorer than I am... or have an abortion. I choose life... and the 3 children that I now have are enough... for now!
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
I must confess to being a bit surprised by your statement, "I personally would not mind dying at a younger age from having many children because my children can live on as my gift to the world." Don't you want your children to have the advantage of having you around when they're grown and have their own children? I know I'm hoping to have lots more time to spend with my grandchildren now and to see them graduate and get married. I like your attitude about a woman's right to an abortion. You have every right to think it's wrong but I don't think any of us have the right to tell others what to do.
Annie
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
8 Jun 09
I would love to be there for my grandchildren. But, having children is a natural function of our bodies. My own mother had 7 children and she is one of the healthiest people I know. So, by saying that I wouldn't mind giving my life for the joy of giving children to the future, I'm also asserting that I feel that this is a far shot. Something that is a natural function of our bodies to do is more likely to only be bad for us if we don't do it properly. Call me a fanatic if you will. Haha, but I respect everyone's beliefs on this subject and I have actually optioned to used birth control myself for financial/political reasons for the time being.
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@trose7 (243)
• United States
7 Jun 09
She's right! We're all murderers for killing these innocent little babies! It would be so much better if we brought them into the world when the parents obviously don't want kids or another kid! We need families to be huge so that there is no parent to child bonding at all. Besides, we can put them up for adoption, since there are so many loving parents that won't abuse the child once taken in.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
I'm afraid I'm really confused. I thought you were being facetious so I took the same tone, now I'm not so sure what part of your original response was meant to be taken seriously and what part, if any, wasn't. I was being purely sarcastic about the couples looking to adopt not knowing about all the children in foster care. They know it but they're not interested in giving these unfortunate kids a permanent home because they want a newborn infant of the same race that they are in some cases. In many cases these are the very same people who are the most vocal against a woman's right to choose. They call themselves pro-life but they're really only pro-birth or pro-fetus. They're not even really pro-CHILD! The kids in the foster care system are often from extremely dysfunctional families and have often had developmental problems because of their early lives. Sometimes they're born to parent who had had substance abuse problems, sometimes they're of mixed race and just about all the time they're from families in the "lowest" economic and social class. These kids are never given a chance and they're very definitely living human beings, there's no question as to whether their life began at conception, implantation or birth because they've already gone through all those stages. THAT is precisely when the extremist pro-life activists forget about them.
Annie
@trose7 (243)
• United States
7 Jun 09
I'm not sure I understand your response. The parents who want to adopt don't know there are children to adopt, but somehow you do? I've heard horror stories of the adoption system. It sounds like hell to me, and I would never want a child to go through it.
@coffeeshot (3783)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
I think Jill Stanek is a fool who just wants media attention. Her articles shouldn't even be published.
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@spicysweetie21 (2573)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Oh that is so ridiculous, even for worldnetdaily,,,,i guess I'm a baby killer, think of the insanity in the world if no woman took birth control methods, so they just want everyone whose not a nun or otherwise celibate, to be a mother to who knows how many children, and here is my response to these people,,,,they say that taking birth control is killing babies,,,,and they probably think that God has a reason for things and God makes a person physically, so what about the women who can't concieve because of something physically wrong with them, according to their standard, doesn't that make God a baby killer too???? (i'm not saying i think that, im just showing that they don't think their standards through 
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Jun 09
One thing that's not in the thought process of these extremists is common sense or consistency in their standards. Speaking of God, don't they also always say God doesn't give us anything we can't handle? Then WHY are so many children born to parents who obviously can't handle them?
Annie
@spicysweetie21 (2573)
• United States
7 Jun 09
I have no clue what people think anymore, i just got called a loose woman by another person because I personally am Pro-Choice, but made it clear two times that i myself have never, or could never have an abortion myself, but because of my views, i was told if i had children, they would be better off with a pro lifer....because i stated i don't have children yet, this person insinuated that i must have had abortions and thats why i don't have children.....when i called this person out saying "hey don't make assumptions about me when you don't know me" (paraphrased) they continued to insult me more....some people just want to be mean,hurtful, and spiteful,,it upset me needless to say ,oh and they also said that "If the potential sperm donor doesn't want to do it safely, then he and you ought not partake"....I take responsibility of my actions and use birth control pills, but that doesn't matter because either way, im a baby killer in someones eyes, so in their eyes I as a woman, have no choice in anything, im supposed to be baby making machine
@angel_of_charm (4134)
• Philippines
7 Jun 09
Now I think that's overrated....I think this woman is out the fact that we are hundreds of millions of people on earth already and many of these people do not have stable jobs and homeless...how many more should she want these people to produce just to add extra burdens on their lives...now I'm not saying children are burdens but if a parent is not even on the capability to have more what else would happen to them? Nothing but rely on feeding programs....
I guess she doesn't know what the responsibilities are to have many children...hence, taking pills is nothing related to killing babies...we are trying to prevent producing a life now if there's no life then there's nothing to kill....I guess if we won't take contraeptives and get unwanted pregnancy each time and have abortion legal what does she thinks of it? I guess with that she will protest more because that it real killing a life....she can have more babies if she wants but she needs to wake up with reality....in this kind of world right now, we don't need to produce more children that we can't even feed...we will just be unfair to these children if ever since were not capable of giving them what they deserve.
She needs to think just before she opens her mouth with this.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
This is an extension of the anti-choice movement for some extremists like this Jill. They've trying to get legal abortions banned for years and now they're working on birth control as well. The irony is many of the same people in this movement are also opposed to helping these babies and their parents AFTER they're born. We're "killing" them before they even have any brain cells to feel or be aware of anything yet after they've been brought into this world if they suffer from malnutrition and live in poverty, even suffer and DIE from lack of proper health care that's not their problem.
Annie
@savypat (20216)
• United States
7 Jun 09
This statement it totally false. Birth control stops your eggs from dropping so that they can be fertilized. The egg is not killed. And even if it were the egg is only one/half of a baby. It seems to me that stupid statements like this do much more to harm the protest instead of helping.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
The bad thing is that there are some pharmacists who are against dispensing birth control pills and other products and there are those who think they should have the right to refuse to do so as part of a "conscience clause". There are people who don't have the option of going from pharmacy to pharmacy if the one closest to them won't give them what they need.
Annie
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Okay, I had to read that twice. I can't belive that in this day and age that a WOMAN would really think caveman. Seriously, when you think of all the 'back alley' forms of planned parenthood this is taking a serious step BACK into putting women in harms way.
Protest the pill. I'm sorry, but there are enough children abandoned in dumpsters, hospital and other less glamerous places and the very thing that can prevent this WOMAN is protesting?
I'm sorry, at a loss of how she can even think that would be in the best interests of her own sisterhood.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Incredible, isn't it? To these people the "best interests" are only that children be born, I guess not only those who have been conceived but those who MAY be conceived. Once they cross over into this world, they're on their own. That's why I have the problem with the phrase "pro-life". Life doesn't END at birth!
Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Good question! The extremists lump many birth control methods right in with abortions so I don't know where they expect to put all the babies that would be born if they got all that they wanted! I guess they'd like to bring back chastity belts...lol!
Annie
