How difficult is it to live in loveless marriage?
By agrim94
@agrim94 (3805)
India
June 18, 2009 8:46am CST
I m not yet married but one day i would be. I have seen people who been living together for the sake of children or other pressures. So i was wondering how difficult it is for them to live in such a marriage? Because you are still married so neither you can cheat nor can have another meaningful relationship.
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27 responses
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
19 Jun 09
well I can relate to this not as a married person but as a son who have parent who dont love each other and just stayed for the sake of us children... Well for me it's never really good and it's not enough reason to stay together and blaming it all on the children coz when their children will grow up and see them argue every time on just about anything and almost everyday this would not set a good example to them it would be better that they would separate ways then stay together and not harmonious. If they plan to stick together they should at least make an agreement that they wont let their children see their loveless relationship. For this the children seek a love of another and wished that both where not his parents. This is just base on my personal experience and not applicable to all. As parents and as grown up people they must know their responsibility and one of them is to set an example of love... stick with marriage for one reason and that is love if their is no love left then what is their to hold on... Dont make excuses by blaming or making your children as the excuse...and when time comes that there children would ask about that or would make a simple mistakes then they would blame their children that because of us children they have to suffer this ordeal of loveless marriage just bad and not right .
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
23 Jun 09
Hi HelScream,
Yes when someone is in a situation like you, it seems pretty hard and i am sure you must not have liked to grow up like this. Parents have a hugh responsibility to give children a very secure home where if nothing else then love is in abundance. But if they dont have love for each other , how hard they may try it would show up and arguing on everything makes children think this is normal human married behavior. Unfortunately In Countries like India it is not so easy to break up a home. Girl gets branded as some one with low character( thats why her husband left her)and the children are too made fun of by everyone. When they enter a room ppl start talking in hush tones and u know and it is even worse for the children that they are not accepted socially by children of good families.. so take a pic also they might have to hear things about their mom's character ( though can be 100% lies) and it is very humiliating.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
26 Jun 09
Yes helscream i know that people in your country are looked for what they are and not what their relationships with their spouse or friends have been. it is such a pity that people in country like ours can get so cruel if a girl cant have cordial relationship with her husband and the children have to hear the cruel remarks .. it is so shameful.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
23 Jun 09
Well agrim if I am also brought up in your country I think I would have different answer then it would really depend on the situation and the culture you have in your country and since here in our country its not like that then thats why I have this answer now .... Well it's really hard indeed my friend ....
@beejay24 (75)
• Philippines
19 Jun 09
the basic foundation of marriage should be love and not because of obligation.
there are those sometimes that consider marriage as an answer for a problem (early pregnancy, being forced by the parents and arrange marriage) and most of the time this marriage ends up into separation and only few become successful. why successful? sometimes love can be learned and sometimes it can developed because of constant companionship.
but it would be best to have love when entering marriage.
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
23 Jun 09
Hi beejay,
thanks for the response and i would tend to differ with you because in most third world the marriages are arranged and they have few options of opting out once married and when you know you dont have a easy chance to get divorce then you really work hard for your marriage and develop love. This model is quite successful In India atleast. And i am really surprised that most people say love is base of marriage esp ppl from west and divorce rate are maximum there. So i guess it is more important to work hard for marriage then love before marriage.
@beejay24 (75)
• Philippines
24 Jun 09
i still have a strong conviction that it has to have love before getting married. the one that you are referring that is happening in India (arrange wedding) maybe successful because it has something to do with the culture.even in china arrange wedding is traditional done between close families. but i am speaking in general, there are cases that couples cannot developed better companionship and love even during marriage because there is no love from the start and most cases it can resulted to dissolution of marriage. so for, i still submit to the fact that the sanctity of marriage is still based on love and its foundation should love. why risk the fact of learning love during married life when you can have a choice of having love even before getting married?
@iamsolucky (1241)
• Philippines
19 Jun 09
I got married last may 29, but its with love, respect and understanding. I am so happy with my husband. I know there will be adjustment for both of us but i can say we are really helping each other. Im not into arranged marriages, it makes me think not feeling happy because i cant be with the person i really like.
When two people are only living together for the sake of their children or other reasons, they sacrifice their own happiness. I think its not good for the children to have parents living together like that. It will make them suffer more in the long run.
I hope my words can give meaning to real happiness when your with someone you really love.
Happy mylotting and smile always!
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
26 Jun 09
Hi imsolucky,
Thanks for the response and yes you said a big word respect.. if you have it for your spouse then everything else would fall in place and love would blossem but unfortunately respect is first thing that goes out of window as soon as the trouble starts and I m right always replace respect. i wish that you and your husband keep respecting each other whole life and your married life be full of roses and smiles.
@asweetie (1187)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi agrim, A marriage without love is no marriage at all but it still is legal and as a indian girl i wouldnt go for divorce no matter what. No marriage can be loveless if you give it full time and try hard to keep it. All you need to do is make ur house home and take care of your husband and children and your inlaws best you can and it would show in the eyes of husband. A marriage is not a joke and no one likes to destroy his or her home, just if we all work hard it would be a marriage full of love and understanding. And if it is not then also for sake of children and family name i would never ever get out of it nor would i ever cheat.
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
23 Jun 09
Hi asweetie,
I can understand your point of view and if you have to live in a typical Indian middle class family. Divorce is the biggest taboo here and you are right. A lady is the master of house and she can make or break a home. If you have guts to stick and show enough love then everything is possible and it is known that the females have brought even the worst person on the right track.
@sjvenden27 (1840)
• United States
19 Jun 09
Most people marry for love. Through the years each person may fall out of love, but the other keeps them going. I was married just about 9 years.. Over time we both grew up, he was 19 and I was 17 1/2 when we married.. Way to young to be getting married.. Anyways.. It was not hard for me to stay in a loveless marriage because of the simple fact that was all I knew and the outside world alone seemed to be freaky.. I felt that at least I knew what to expect. I was not worried about cheating my eyes were pointed towards my husband, regardless of how rocky the relationship was.. I felt for a long time, he was my rock, and without him I would fail. We have a child together, he was born five years after we got married.. Which he well lets just say if we would have followed our hearts and left our comfort zone our son would have never been born.. But I am thankful each and every day that our son is with me...
Now with your last statement, "Because you are still married so neither of you can cheat nor can have another meaningful relationship". With the way that I view marriage, its a special vow that never should be broken, while you are married.. I never once said to myself, if only I was divorced I could go out with this person.. My mind just I guess you can say turned that part of my brain off.. A meaningful relationship? The way I would define that is a close relationship with someone.. Even through you are married you can have relationships of that sort.. Just do not cross the line, especially if its with the opposite gender. Marriage is something special, and I really do not like the way these pop stars are making it out to be some kind of game or joke.. In my opinion it really degrades the meaning of marriage. All I can say to you about marriage is; when you find the right one, and take that leap of faith.. Make sure you are doing it for all of the right reasons.. And look at it long term, divorce may be legal, but it does not make it right.
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
20 Jun 09
hi sjvenden,
thx for the response, yes most people marry for love and it is very difficult to keep it going after marriage because when the life doesnt go on love alone and grinding of the daily responsibilities and added pressure and responsibility of home and work start taking toll and it effects everything. And in your case i think if you did separate later because if you had divorced before birth of child it would be lot different. But if you are happy now then it is worth it.
@Jakywoo (102)
• China
19 Jun 09
You tell the truth.Now we regard marriage as a so important choice that we must pay full heart in it.I don't think I can stand a loveless marriage.But life is a play.Sometimes you don't know what the ending will be.So everyone may have mistakes in life.In my opinion, if you decide to do something,make sure that you will not regret with it.And no matter what happened,make the best choice for you.
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@agrim94 (3805)
• India
26 Jun 09
hi jakywoo,
Thanks for the response and yes marriage is very very important esp to me who would like to marry only once in life and i have to make my marriage work when ever i get married. I dont want a way out of it because so long we know we can always opt out we may not work so hard to keep out marriage and there is no guarantee that the second girl i would marry would be better than first .
@moondancer (7433)
• United States
18 Jun 09
I made that mistake myself, staying with my husband just for the children. So did so many others as well. We all found out that it would have been better for all concerned if the marriage had just ended. It's not good for the children to live in and be around the tension that looms in the air. It's not fair to them when you could be happy therefore they would be happy if the marriage had just ended.
I know that many times the lady does not have the money to make ends meet if they leave their husband. But that is no reason to stay in a relationship that is doing harm. If only the men would realize that they need to pay the child support. The money is not for their ex-wife, it is for the children and their lives are a little bit easier when their child support is paid.
Men think they are giving the woman money to do with as she pleases. No it's money to buy cloths for the kids, money for food if needed and all of the extra things that the kids need. Health care, the co-pay for the doctors office and hospital. If the ex-wife can not pay these things and the dad is not paying the child support, then who suffers? The children do.
@moondancer (7433)
• United States
19 Jun 09
Ninja is a German Rottweiler. He is huge and he is my baby.
I know what you mean about divorce in India. It use to be that way here in the US a long time ago. And the children don't get much money here either. It all depending on hat the father claims that he makes. Most don't claim all they make and the kids get about $30 a week each or less. I'd like to see them take care of the child on that kind of money, they could not do it. Most men don't even pay their child support. They refuse to.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
26 Jun 09
well India has got huge problem of black money that means the money on which tax have not been paid for and it has not been shown to tax authorities and it was estimated that more than 50% of economy is being run on black money. So you can see how much people here must be showing how much they make. But if court decide that father has to pay this much for child and wife support then the man can do nothing and has to payup or go in jail.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi moondancer,
Thanks for responding to my discussion. hmm u got a nice dog, which breed is it. Now about the topic i dont know if my marriage turns out to be loveless ( not only physically but also emotionally) i would opt out of marriage if i have children. Being in India child get lots and lots of rebukes and sneers if their parents are divorced and they are butt of jokes all around. About child support and alimony well in India unfortunately it is pretty less. I know a case where they are fighting for divorce for years now ( common in India that hubby want divorce wife doesnt ) and she and her two children are getting only rs 800/- as support. Converting to American money it is not even 20 dollars. yes children have to be looked after and they should get same quality of life as they were getting before their parents separated.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
20 Jun 09
Well they may not love each other, but they do not have each other, so in their case, they like each other or they want the companionship. It is therefore very easy. It would be different if they hate each other, but they are not at the stage where they want a divorce and if they do not believe in a divorce, they will wait until it becomes untenable for them to survive.
There is also the cost of a divorce, if the children are going to stay with one parent and the other be the visitor not to mention the house that they shared together. So in that case, living in the same roof, but not having s*xual relations or not as often is a better idea then deciding that the children stay with mom but see dad on the weekends.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
26 Jun 09
hi suspensful,
thanks for the response and yes there are so many factors involved in a divorce and after a certain age i think companionship is more important than physical benefits of marriage. Children you have brought in this world so they are your responsibility to make them a good citizen and a good human being. And they wont grow up same with one parent i am sure.
@flagella08 (5065)
• Philippines
19 Jun 09
that would be the worst scenario of one's like.it seems like one is locked forever.for me, i wouldn't thrive to a relationship that wouldn't make me feel happy and contented. i wouldn't waste my time for the world. i would rather live alone than being indulged in that kind of problem.so far, i love my husband and we intend to live happily EVER AFTER.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
18 Jun 09
I think alot of people are living like that. They get use to it i guess but i never would. They each get in their own comfort zone, each go their way & do what they want to. I personally don't think that is what marriage is all about but to each his own.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi antiquelady,
Thanks for responding to my discussion. Well love should never leave a married home but surprisingly it does because both partners dont work hard for marriage and once u loose the confidence that u can take ur partner for guaranteed then the most problem starts. Because i think this is very important as both partner should have confidence that look ok if i call couple of friends home and give my wife couple of hours, she would make arrangements for nice party or wife should have confidence no matter how tired my husband is and if i tell him honey it is urgent that u got to take me to the place 2 hours away , he would take you there. this is just an example though many other things too. If both have this confidence in each other then i dont think marriage would die or love would be less.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Jun 09
HI, U are very welcome. Marriage is the hardest job u will ever have. It takes two working very hard to make a go of it. One can not do it alone. Happy days to u.
@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
19 Jun 09
Among the factors involved are age, and mental attitude.
Those at an advanced age will most probably find it difficult to find a new partner. Staying with the present partner is a better option. The trick is to keep oneself busy with various activities. Getting into an affair is not advisable, because there would be complications.
Accepting that there are things which we cannot get in a loveless marriage can help to sustain it. Otherwise there will be constant bickering over things which we may be able to live wthout. Be at peace with oneself, rather than seeking solace from the person who is not prepared to give it to us.
all the best,
rosdimy
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
20 Jun 09
Thanks rosdimy,
thx for the response. thats a wonderful response and you are right. Loveless marriage may not mean that you are always fighting and you can be still living together with no love physical or emotional. yes if i ever find myself in this kind of marriage, i now know what to do. I would keep myself busy with lots of things which i like.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
19 Jun 09
I am married now for the second time. My first marriage ended amicably many years ago and I recall the way things were towards the end; not joyful I can tell you.
We began drifting apart and arguing a lot although nether of us had plans to move on at that time.
We stayed together for ages because it felt safe I think and after a while we even stopped fighting so much as well. We lived as room mates instead of lovers. We knew the time came to call it a day when the irritations began. We would just look at one another and feel annoyed and had we gone one like that for too much longer we would have ended up hating each other.
I know a couple in their late fifties who have been living like that for years and now they cannot stand each other but neither one will leave because they both want the house. They are miserable and I have to wonder if a house is worth all the resentment and sadness.
As for people who stay together for the children I think it is a sensitive area because if you are not happy together and don’t like each other the children will sense it and I tend to believe that it would more damaging to them than dealing with separated parents.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
20 Jun 09
Hi paula,
thx for the response, and i am so happy for you that you are so happy with second marriage. Though you were lucky that you got love in second marriage but what if second marriage is same as first. Yes i know if you keep fighting then it is very difficult to remain together and children are effected and they have in their mind that this is normal, but if you dont show hard feelings in front of children then may be it is possible to live together.
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
2 Jul 09
Agrim-
It's very difficult to live together without love or a mutual care and respect for one another. When one person stops and becomes apathetic in the relationship it's time to move on. Staying for the sake of the children only does more damage to the children then if the parents were to move on with their lives and still love the children. Divorce is never easy either, but children are very resiliant and if they know both parents love and care for them, they can move forward from it knowing that both parents are healthy and happy.
Namaste-Anora
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
2 Jul 09
Hi anora_eldorath,
Thanks for the response and yes divorce is never a easy option and most of times it is dirty and very hurtful. and i also know that children do miss mom or dad a lot depending upon who they live with and both are essential for proper growth of children.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
19 Jun 09
Unfotantly my marriage as short as it was was a waste of time for me. I am glad we don't have any kids. Our marriage actully lasted less then a year but he left me and 2 years later I decided I was tired of having his last name so I divorced him. The crazy part is his new wife or the woman he left me for still talks about it. I mean she talked to me little 6 year old niece in school. I wish it could be dropped. I think it is sad the people that do stay married because they have kids but as far as cheating goes I know that happens it happed to me.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
20 Jun 09
Hi shaun,
thx for the response. I know it is very bad to be cheated and i would never cheat on my partner no matter what even if i live in loveless marriage whole life. 10 mins of fun can never compensate the hurt or problems it can create and you were lucky that you didnt have children or it would be difficult decision to divorce.
@tiffanymarie (191)
• United States
19 Jun 09
I think that is one of the worst things couples can do. It is not only hard on the two people, but on their children as well. They are all living in such a harmful, unhappy situation. They might be staying for the children but don't they realize the kids know what is going on. And some do stay - but they start cheating, etc.. and that is not good either. I think people should make a grave effort to stay married and work it out. However, sometimes things just don't work out. Yes, It is unfortunate and sad, but marriages do go bad. And in some cases it is better to be happy, divorced, kids happy instead of living upset, arguing, bitter, and dysfunctional.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi tiffanymarie,
Thanks for responding to my discussion. I dont think it is such a bad idea to stay together for children . Children need love and support of both parents and if you are from third world like India, Pakistan or such countries then you would realize how much social stigma is for the girl who gets divorce and especially the choldren from a divorced marriage. They would always be made fun off and would always be discriminated and they would many a times have to listen to people tarnishing image of their mother branding her as u know..
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
19 Jun 09
Nice topic. It's just like asking "Why do some marriages for convenience are not convenient at all?" Some marriages are forced, some are done for convenience and some are because of love. I am still unattached but I can clearly see that a marriage without love will not work out. If the two persons involve in the relationship did it for convenience, it may work out at first, but later on problems may arise, or on a positive note, they may end up loving each other.
Hopefully I will not end up in a marriage like that. I still believe that it is better to start out a family out of love and not because of any other reason.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi Joiemarvic,
Thanks for responding to my discussion. you got many valid points but more than 70% people in this world marry without love, well they dont even know who they are marrying , who so ever their parents say marry they marry and then they work very hard for their marriage and love develop in that marriage and many ( well more than people who first find love and then marry) live very happy all life. Life full of love and a big family . Yes some people marry for money too but then if they marry for money then they should be happy as they got what they wanted and shouldnt have more expectations.
@piya84 (2581)
• India
19 Jun 09
Agrim now a days i have seen these arguments lot of times.Somehow most of the young generation see marriage as a loss of freedom.They are scare to commit for longer term.What i want say is there are many happy couples around too.Just have a look at them.Stop watching just negative side of marriage.
About love less marriage,there are up and downs in marriage.It takes efforts to sustain that love forever.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
19 Jun 09
hi,
Thanks for responding to my discussion. Yes marriage is one best thing a man or a girl can do. It brings stability in life and maturity too and one starts to look things at others perspective too. But the way so many marriages are going to court now and people having loveless and sexless marriages we cant close eyes to that too.