does the end can justify the mean?

i think so...and sooner or later ,this mean that you do just to achieve the "good" end will soon haunt you and will ruin that good end that you get... thanks for sharing...

yes i think you also have a point...sacrificing innocent poor people for the welfare of the county's economy is really something that's unacceptable...even how good the intention is, if we will hur somebody along the way...its still not good. thanks for sharing...

lol =D Yeah, i was busy last couple of days and thus i was not able to be in mylot.. hehe ^_^ Did u missed me huh?? lol =D Yup, u are right in saying that too, because everything happens for a reason.. For example, i have robbed u of your money, but my intention is for my grandma hospitalisation fees, and so judge might reduce my sentence based on compassionate.. BUt if i were to rob u for my own gain, then my sentence will definitely be heavier ^_^

yes, i miss you on my discussions coz you are one of those who really are into a discussion... well again, depends upon the situation and the judgment of the one who's looking at it! i think , its really hard to justify the end by its mean specially if the mean is mean! hehehe

yes you are...after a while of being lost in the discussions, now you are back confusing me! hehehe but anyway, so you mean that being bad or good, justifiable or not depends on who are looking at it? well maybe you are right coz even in courts, the decisions of the judges differs...there are some cases that the charged is being acquitted in a crime even though he actually do that crime...because the judge consider the reason why he do such things...am i saying it right?

ok thanks!

hi ckyera, do not worry, be happy, thanks for the comment

hi there! thanks for sharing... but i think there are some cases that the end can justify the means...like for example in case of you have to defend yourself...for sure we can do something that is against the law in order to defend ourselves...but we do it unintentionally therefore in this case it might be considerable...but if your mean is something that you have planned and very intentional well it can't justified anything even how good your intention was...you will still be charge guilty... but i agree, in most cases, as much as possible we should always choose the right thing to do for it will give a sweeter victory! have a nice day! :-)

Hi, JamieRose. You are certainly right in saying that the end can not justify the means. To your good thoughts, I would like add some of the views of mine. If you believe in good, then you should know that good never depends on bad, i.e. there are always another way of achieving the good goal rather than using the bad path. Also, all great personalities mention the goodnees of deeds is important, not the effect they produce, as from god, the effect of good deeds will automatically be good and bad ones culminate in evil (one such example comes from Jesus in The New Testament).

oh yes, yes i understand... so we really have no excuse in doing any crime, no matter what we do we should accept it and be responsible for it...and if there's law that is broken...let jury decide...but their decision can be against you or not even how good is your intention in doing so...everything depends on how the jury will perceive things... very nice point my friend... a crime is a crime no matter what your purpose or intention is... you can be charged guilty or get acquitted depends on the views and feelings of the juries... just accept and be responsible for your action and just wait for your verdict... but sometimes verdict went wrong due to person's different views and perceptions...but God always gives the fair judgement....

hello maharajb...very well said. thank you. i think you are right, no matter what our intention in doing such a thing...at the end we will still be charge as what we do...if we steal to feed our family then we are still a thief, if we kill just to depend ourselves or our loved ones...we are still a murderer?...that's life, we might be guilty for some cases but do you believe that in every rule there is an exemption? that's why there are some who gets acquitted in some crimes... thanks for sharing...its highly appreciated!

No there is really and truly no exemption. You going into law now, and you are judged by a panel of your peers, and their verdict is based on their INTERPRETATION of the law. Their individual feelings and views also affect their decision. For example what is a threat to your family maybe not be viewed by me as a threat to mine.If someone looks at them crossed eye, is that a threat? point at them, is that a threat?Speaks to them loudly, is that a threat? And I could go on, based on interpretations of threat.I could go into now what is your interpretation of self defense, disarming a bandit and calling the police, disarming a bandit and then shooting him to prove a point?You understand.If I was on a jury now and your idea of a threat don't fit into mines, and I think you over reacted, what you think my verdict vote going to be?Not a good one!It not even about you getting found innocent or guilty, it about you committed an act and getting labelled as something, don't deny it, own it, be proud of it. You kill for your family be proud of it, "I killed for my family's safety". But remember you committed and act of killing someone, the name that goes with that act is a killer/murderer. Don't say "yes I shot the guy and killed him BUT you know I am not really a murderer "....oh yes you are one.You shot down another human being to defend your family, nothing wrong in that, I wouldn't think twice about doing it if my family was in danger.But I ain't going to make excuses,I would own it and be proud. "Sir I shot down that guy, I murdered him, took his life for my family to live in safety"It about you committing an act and afterwards owning up to it. Being proud of what you did, if someone has to lie to themselves about something they did to cope and feel less guilty, well then more times than not, they should have never done that act.

hi skysuccess... thanks for your very nice thought... so what you mean is the end does justify the mean as long as nobody is hurt? and as long as it don't suppress anyone's rights? but what if a situation calls that you have to do a mean, mean just to get the good end? or will it be really possible to have a good end with a bad mean? thanks again....

i think so, you have a point there...yes as long as you don't hurt anyone in doing so, then it will be fine...but most of the time in this cases we tend to hurt somebody even if its not our intention to hurt them, sometimes a small lie we do can lead to a bigger trouble...so we can really never tell coz not everybody can understand our acts... thanks for sharing sauman!

really depends on the situation...huh! thanks!