Can you disown a family member?
By SomeCowgirl
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
United States
July 15, 2009 10:36am CST
In good conscious, can you ever disown a family member? That is to say, without being mad, ro with getting over your anger, can you or would you disown a family member? What would the family member have to do or say for you to disown this person? Have you ever disowned a family member because of something they did or said? How did it make you feel? Relieved, sad, disappointed, or indifferent?
What if this family member didn't do or say something to you directly but did say it to anothe family member, would you disown the person even then?
How do you disown a family member?
What is considered "Disownment" of a family member?
I know some people would say disowning is when a parent disowns their child. I, myself think it can be more then that.
So what's your views?
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23 responses
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
15 Jul 09
I wanted to disown my MIL - she was the worst MIL that a young girl could ever had. I was young, newly married and in a strange country and culture and she was acted so badly towards me. But I didn't disown her as she was the children's grandmother and I wanted them to know a grandmother as my mother was in the U.K. She did soem terrbile things to me and my husband never forgave her. But I did. Eventually. I have not disowned anyone really - I am a peaceful person and would just probably distance myself from them but not disown them. I would still make conversation with them at family gatherings etc. I forgave her in the end.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
When you first started to explain why it reminded me of a time I read something about someone not having furniture during their pregnancy and having nothing to sit on... I forgot it was you! You are one heck of a woman to forgive your mother in law for that, but they say forgiveness is the best thing, and it's never good to hold a grudge.
God forgives, why can't we? right?
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
I like to think of myself as caring and peaceful as well, but I don't think I want to talk to my uncle anymore as the things he said were just too much. I try to forgive quickly people who I've been hurt by, as some hurts are misunderstandings. I have heard so many horror stories from people saying their mother in law's are bad people, but I'm glad that you did what you did and that you forgave her.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
15 Jul 09
The hting that my husband never forgave her for was this. I had lost 3 babies in late stages of pregnancy and this was my fourth pregnancy. I was in and out of hospital with threatened miscarriages etc. she moved away from our house but we were using her furniture. She wnet to live with a daughter and said that she wanted to sell the furniture. My husband made arrangements with her as to what pieces we ould buy and this was done on a Monday morning when he went to the farm. He told her that he would be back on the Friday and would give her whatever price she asked for.
I was living in the city near the hospital. On the Wednesday she sent a removal truck and removed her furniture about 5 weeks before my baby was born. I did not have a chair to sit on, I had no means of getting in touch with my husband as I did not have a phone and there was no phone on the farm. Friends came to take me but I refused to leave the house. I said that I wanted my husband to see me in this condition when he returned.
A friend went to the police and they radioed the police in the country and these police toild me husband to go to town. When he walked into the house and saw me sitting on the floor without even a glass of cold water to drink - then he cried. It was the first that I had seen him cry. That she could do this to a sick preganant woman who was carrying her grand child is beyond me. The baby had to be induced as I had toxaemia - my blood was poisoning the baby. when I had my son I made a promise to be the best MIL that I could be and I believe that I have kept my word. I love my DIL's so much and we are so close to each other.
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• United States
15 Jul 09
I could never disown a family memeber. I am a Christian and we are supposed to love each other and forgive each other. Even when someone does you wrong a million times you still should forgive them. This doesn't mean that you should trust them again, but you should forgive and still love them. Therefore, to try to disown someone would be unChristian. Besides, your family is your family no matter what you say.
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
15 Jul 09
Gift.....you're missing the bigger picture here. A person can 'disown' a family member, and still love them, care about them, and even forgive them, but choose not to have them in their lives, especially if contact with that person is toxic! Jesus did say "Get behind me Satan" and He didn't just mean the devil, He meant ALL temptation to enter into sin, and if the person being 'disowned' is committing sin or accusing others of the same, or some other evil, I think it is very Christian to follow Jesus example and 'put that person behind you'!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
What if the person you want to disown has made it seem they worship the devil? I can understand your point, people should forgive. However, there are times when people can't or shouldn't forgive, like in the case of if the person is worshipping or talking about the devil.
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@persona_touch (1701)
• United States
15 Jul 09
yeah i disown family b4 they are all ways talking sh^t it makes me sick and they come to me all nice when they hear i have money, a lot of people think i'm crazy for doing that but we are all human and just becuse they have the family name on them do mean they can get away with anything that is how i feel and no one will change that. They did other stuff to thats realy realy bad but i'm not geting in to it here.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
I do not blame you for disowning a person who talks badly but then turns around and wants money. Especially if there is more to the story then you want to divulge, trust me, this discussion was brought up because of something that happened. Things that are more to my own story, that I won't divulge!
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@persona_touch (1701)
• United States
15 Jul 09
that is one of they did i didn't say thats why i disown them thats why at the end i put there is something else they did and i wasn't going to talk about it.
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@la_chique (1498)
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15 Jul 09
My case is really extreme. I wont go into details, but suffice to say that I have COMPLETELY disowned my family. I wont go into details, but I'm hacked off with all of them, initially my parents, but by association also my siblings and very unfortunately my grandparents who would rather take their side than listen to me. I feel no regret for my decision, and feel that I am a far better person since making my decision to live my own life in my own way. My family still think of me as some sort of horrible daughter of satan, but I never have been, and no one who knows me could disagree with them more. We can choose our friends but we cant choose our family. How true that is! I'm just proud of the person I am in spite of them.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
Sometimes people just don't clique. I respect your decision to not tell me anything of it, but I am sure that despite how you now feel better, it must have at first been hard for you. Family is family, and well I guess that's something they need to learn huh? Sorry this has happened to you, but as long as you have friends...
@AithneFireStorm (212)
• United States
15 Jul 09
My husband has only very recently gotten back with his family. He disowned them once before because of the things they were saying to his ex-wife (things like I hope you and your baby die, she was pregnant at the time it was said) and constantly running their mouths saying bad things about him when he is in fact one of the most successful people in his family! He is one of the only ones who has not served prison time and or lived off of government handouts.
Well he is already considering moving us away from his family and disowning them again because they have started on us. Saying we are bad parents, that all we do is "party" many very derrogatory and just plain mean things! I was told yesterday that they were not going to let me have my kids back unless we gave them 200 up front for them to watch our kids while I go to work! Essentially they were kidnapping my children and when I tried to retrieve my kids and take them elsewhere I was shoved.
He called them yesterday and told them off for 2 hours and said if it ALL doesn't end he will cut them off again and that he remembered why he cut off contact with them 8 years ago! In short yes I would happily disown a family member especially these people and I would feel a great deal of relief in doing so!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
When children are involved, no matter the person, disowning is the first thing you want to do and should do if it protects yourself, your feelings and also your children and their feelings. To me it sounds like these people are not people I'd want any kids to be around, so I don't blame you for not taking a second thought about disowning them.
It's better for both you and your husband. Judgement happens, and sometimes judgement isn't bad,especially in families, but the fact that your inlaws are judging you and your husband and you feel it's uncalled for an incorrect, well they just aren't judging they're assuming too!
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@AithneFireStorm (212)
• United States
15 Jul 09
No they are gossiping and we know who is starting it now... Mys husband has a very good memory and he caught the one doing it based off what she said to him yesterday... She has no life and in place of having a life she is trying to ruin our's!For some reason she thinks he is going to leave me and keep the kids and stay and turn to them! He's not I have been more loyal to him than his family and have encouraged him to go after what makes him happy in life where they have always told him he could not do something or was to small (granted at the time they were saying this is 5'8" and maybe 125 lbs soaking wet with a cheesburger in each hand) but my family has never told me or him that there was something we could not do! I find the way his family treats one another to be an abomination! He is giving them one more chance (which I understand they are his family and he really wanted to try an reconcile things with them) but he has already made it very clear if it continues he WILL cut off all ties and move us away! He said my family at their worst treated him more like family than his own does! That says something to me
I just worry over what she is telling our kids when we are not there. Not long after they started going to her house regularly so his uncle could see them (she is kinda tolerated by most of his family because of his uncle the same with his mom, his mom is only tolerated because of his stepfather) my kids started saying things like I don't have to listen to you your not my mommy. and the I hate you's!
I don't think it will be an issue much longer though because if the past is a good indicator of the future they will be disowned within the next month!
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@submerryn (1304)
• Malaysia
15 Jul 09
I had a fallout with my sister but never to the extend of disowning anyone. I just ignored her existense. Never bothered to wish each other on our birthdays and never call for updates. Sometimes, it just hurts so much that the only way is to block it out. To disown each other will definitely hurt my parents most. So I try not to put my parents in limbo and just live life separately from my sis. That way, I am more at peace. Of course, things would have been better if we were still in good terms. But sometimes, things are just inevitable. THe only way is OUT.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
In my own opinion you've disowned your sister but haven't made it outright obvious or told anyone else, because you didn't want to hurt your parents. It is better sometimes to withdrawal from those who have hurt you, and it is better on a person's mood sometimes too. Yes sometimes it is inevitable not to disassociate yourself from people who have hurt you.
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@Ithink (9980)
• United States
16 Jul 09
Actually yes I can disown a family member when it comes to the good to the rest of the family. I disowned my biological father as I didnt want him around any kids I was going to have and did have.
One of my daughters is no longer allowed at our home, no I havent totally disowned her as if I see her somewhere I will talk to her. However if she keeps trying to steal and steals off family and just causing everyone alot of hardships as hard as it is I will disown her too. The majority of the family counts and when you have younger kids you have to do what is in the best interest of the whole family of a unit. It is a hard situation to be in.
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@Ithink (9980)
• United States
22 Jul 09
It is hard but until she gets the help that she needs and has been offered to her this is the way it has to be. I dont think that she really realizes how hard it is on us either. We have tried everything with her and she still just does not seem to care about others. I still love her but ....
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I can say that my father was also someone I didn't talk to. I can't say I disowned him per say, although I may have actually said that I have once or twice. I am talking to my father again now.
Sometimes, tough love is in order to keep a person straight from narrow ways. Maybe that's all your daughter needs, and she'll come around and give back what she stole, or atleast replace it. I can't begin to understand how tough it must be for you to have severed ties except for the occasional bump into to while your out. I can understand your doing it for the betterment of your family.
My fiance and I are just starting out. I have, avoided my uncle, the person who was and is the inspiration for this topic. He's done something that is bad, talking to me and about me around family, and my fiance... It's horrible, but I won't go into it.
@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
15 Jul 09
I don't think I could ever disown a family member and truely mean it as in never seeing them again. My husband and I did go through a tough time with his parents, though, and we did not have contact for 8 months. That was no talking, no writing, no emails, etc. They kept up with our lives through my husband's sister, I am sure, but we did not want to hear about them. It was empowering at first, but after awhile it became a drag to carry that anger. When we did talk to them for the first time after 8 months, it was uncomfortable, but a releif in a way.
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@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
22 Jul 09
As long as what the other person is doing is not a danger to you or your family, it is worth accepting that person for who they are and not disowning them. We all come to terms with things in our own time, and to say you want nothing to do with a person could turn out to be a huge mistake down the road. I'm not saying I would hang out with a person that needs help, but I would definitely stick around in the background. That is a life lesson I learned the hard way.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I am sure that it was most uncomfortable for you and your husband to have talked to his parents after nearly a year of no communication. Uncomfortable as it was, I am also glad it was a relief. I can understand your not wanting to hear about them during that time, and I think if it were me I'd be upset that they heard about us. Lol. My fiance and I get along great with everyone else, except for my uncle, who really just needs help but won't admit it and won't do anything about it either.
We've tried, the whole family has, but there's no telling him.
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
15 Jul 09
I have a twin brother. We were both adopted into the same family at the same time.
The trouble is, my brother forgets, when it's convenient for him to, where we come from and who we really are. Now I don't say that in any way to denigrate the wonderful people who adopted us. But we were ten years old when we were adopted, so there was quite a life before that, which shaped us into the people we are today. It is only when my brother wants something from me that he has no right to ask for, that he pulls the "you're my only blood relative" card on me. The rest of the time he pretends that his adopted family is the be all end all of his existence. For years, I let his 'blood relative' ploy get to me, and I gave in to his demands. Then I got divorced. I kept my married name though because I had two kids with that name and they deserved to be a part of their father's family.
Years later I learned that my twin brother had been talking me down because I hadn't gone back to my maiden name when I divorced! Like WTH? Who was he to judge?
HE conveniently 'forgot' that name himself when it suited him! Two summers was the last straw. My current hubs and I had sold our house for a lot of money and one day I get a phone call from my brother asking me to build him a house on our property that he can 'retire' to, free of charge, because after all, he was broke and I was his only 'blood relative'and I had money he felt I should share with him. I told him NO! He hasn't spoken to me since. In my head I've disowned him. In my heart...............well he is my brother and I will always love him, but I don't like him and no longer wish him to be a part of my life.
We can't choose our relatives, and the ties that bind families are complicated. But to my mind, if a family member behaves in a way we wouldn't accept from a friend or acquaintance, then yes, disown them. Refuse to have anything more to do with them. It's their loss after all for being such idiots! If enough family memebers practiced 'tough love', there would be a lot less grief spread around!
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
15 Jul 09
As I said, the ties that bind a family are complicated, and your uncle is the son of the grandmother you obviously love and is innocent of her son's behavior. So you can disown 'him' in your head, but not so easily in your heart as that would be a total rejection that would impact on other family members. My parents for example understand why I don't want anything more to do with my brother, but they love him and interact with him in spite of his faults, and are grateful that though he and and I don't talk, I still care enough to 'get the news' from my mother about him and don't allow her to feel bad about him just because he's not one of MY favorite people..........you know what I mean, I'm sure.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
You've disowned him in your mind, but not in your heart. I like that. I know that disowning, or feeling I should to my uncle won't mean that I still won't hold concern for him. He's done a lot of things that people don't really like, one of them is the worst of all, but we still consider him family.
We just wish he'd get help. Disowning him though, with keeping away from him but keeping concern for those who still keep in touch with him, is most likely what my fiance and I are going to do.
If it shows how bad what happened to make us disown this person is, my own grandmother told me that she would not have minded if my fiance would have punched my uncle. My uncle is her son!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
Yes I know what you mean. Your being careful of your mother's feelings because she still talks to your brother, and you still care enough, if nothing else for her, so that you will listen whenever she talks about your brother, but not say anything disrespectful, right?
I've talked to my grandmother everyday except for one since it happened, and she feels just so bad about it, and I hate it because she feels sick enough as it is.
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@tundeemma (894)
• South Africa
15 Jul 09
i don't have to disown a family member, i will simply avoid him or her, i would not want to create unneccessary scene so i would only run away from troubles hence i will rather not talk to such a relative rather than making people known that i have disown him
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
Avoidance is a better and easier case, however, even so sometimes disownment need not be known, but felt in the heart. That is to say, you don't have to tell your family you've disowned the person but just let it be known in your own heart you have. They may eventually suspect something either way, whether you have disowned the person with your heat as well, or just not talk to them person.
I appreciate the response and am sorry it took so long for me to respond back to you. Have a wonderful day.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I agree that god has put everyone where they are for a reason. Disowning I believe is a bit different, as sometimes a person has not really been a good person. I understand that ti's not our right to judge anyone though as a human, it can be so hard to do.
I am stuck between a rock and a hard place on this as on one hand I want to disown but on the other I know that the person who I want to disown only truly needs help.
However, throwing in the fact that he has also talked about satan, has made me want to disown him like that.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I know that I have felt my family members have treated me badly and I have disassociated with them at some point. However, I talk to them now and have realized that my disassociation was really just silly and a part of growing up and maturing. I can understand how you feel and I respect that as well. Sometimes disownment is inevitable, though I must say.
I guess I'm just stuck between a rock and a hard place really.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Jul 09
I know how hard it is to have a different person in the family. stranger in the looks but actually your brother,sister,mom or dad, but the thing is that disowning would and should be the last resort if in case the family member really sucks through out your entire life. hating can do but dis owning them is like cutting bridges and relationship with them completely, and that's worse..
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
Sometimes, like you say, you need to disown the person. It is a hard thing to do, I can understand that. Sometimes disownment is temporary as well as the person feels sorry for doing such a thing and forgives the person, or atleast learns to tolerate them. I think I can understand from both sides disownment vs avoidance. I started this discussion in a haste, as I felt that the person had done something very wrong. As they have, I haven't very well forgiven him, but I am feeling better about what happened, and have just simply gotten over it.
@janzelaine12 (130)
• Philippines
15 Jul 09
When my brother makes me feel really dumb, I would usually say on my mind that I wanna disown my brother. I usually do that since during those times because I am really mad and I wanna fight back, but I can't because he is much stronger. But he has said it to me a million times because he hates me at times during I do some crazy stuff. When I turn the ringer off my cellphone and ignores him. And when his anger has subsided, he just talks to me as if nothing has happened. I never forget those things that he said that were harsh, but I forgive him since he is my brother. I don't think a family member should disown his own flesh and blood because whenever you feel down, they are mostly the ones around when you feel really down and that they would not leave you not matter what happens.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Jul 09
What if the case is that the person has said something that is inappropriate that no family member should say and has also said things about another family member, while indirectly, is disrespectful to the family member and that you feel it should not have been said? What if they claim to worship something you don't believe in and that represents evil instead of good? lol sorry for the barrage of questions. I can understand your views on your own situation as this is between a sibiling and sibilings do tend to fight, sometimes they stop after they reach a certain age, and sometimes they keep on fighting, but without the name calling. I'm glad that you feel you should not disown a family member, but in this world today things happen that are for more unforgivable then you could imagine. Lol.
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@gnarlybrowdude (68)
• United States
15 Jul 09
The only way i would is f they did something horrible to me like molested me or stole from
me. I dont hold grudges and if people wanna talk then they can.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Jul 09
If I had a family member who was an abusive user I could disown them. Which to me just means that I don't have anything to do with them any more. They're out of my will (if they were in) and they're out of my life.
But no, I have never actually done it. Most of my relatives are decent enough and the few who aren't are far enough away that I don't really have to see them.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
20 Jul 09
It's good when family members who aren't what you'd want them to be are far enough way to be be friendly, and when they are close (as on holiday's) they are so far away most of the year that they aren't too much of a bother otherwise. This discussion was started because of something an uncle of mine had said, and well... he's close and really just needs help. He won't get it, so we can't do anything for him.
I was a bit in a fuss when I made the discussion.
@candy2306 (576)
• India
16 Jul 09
In Hindu culture,parents used to disown their daughter if she ran away from home with her boyfriend. They disown the child simply because of rumors from neighbourhood. They face shameful events all their life, therefore they disown thier daughter. Later, when they get the news of them became grandparents, they open the door and welcome with both hands! This culture is still on in India, however this disowning ceremony affects their other children.
It's a painful scene to witness when one getting themself disowned by their loved ones...
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I think that goes on like that in other countries too. Maybe with less of an impact, or maybe more. I can see new grandparents opening the door back up. After all sometimes disownment isn't done out of hate for the person but rather love, and need to let them go so they can find themselves. Maturity happens at different ages for different people, and sometimes that's all people need.
Although disownment happens for many different reasons to, and in many different walks of life. I know that I feel I should not talk to my uncle because of things he's done. I know, and my fiance knows, deep down that my uncle just needs help, but sometimes people dont' help themselves, and won't accept help, whether it be in advice or not, from others.
I appreciate your response and am sorry it took a bit to respond back to you.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
Hi, I appreciate the response and the comment. Yes, please do try to lengthen your replies, it will help you go along way to earning more money here.
@candy2306 (576)
• India
16 Jul 09
Hi Syb963,
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@cbugs02903 (47)
• United States
16 Jul 09
I don't know if you would say that I have disown my sister but I have not talk to her in years. We are 11 years apart and got into a big arguement. My mom calls all the time trying to get me to talk to my sister but I never do. So I guess it depends on you!!!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
I don't know that you could call it disownment, but to each their own. I guess it all depends on feelings really as to whether it's disownment or not, and it's all up to the individual too! Well I appreciate your response.
@kevchua (1004)
• Malaysia
16 Jul 09
Family members are not commodities. They cannot be sold, and they cannot be bought. They certainly cannot be transferred in terms of ownership to another party, and cannot be dumped into a junkyard when you don't need them. So, why do family members disown their own flesh and blood?
I once had a girlfriend whom my parents didn't like. Later my mom told me that if I continued with her, "You'd better not stay with us" - that's an example of a threat that I would be disowned by my family members. Should that happen? No, absolutely not.
When we start a family, we have to go through all the difficulties and talk things out. Disowning someone is merely letting go of your responsibilities. Why then in the first place have a family if you believe you can disown them when things go wrong? Right?
p/s: I define "disown" an act of forced separation of immediate family members.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Jul 09
Immediate as in mother father, brother sister?
My fiance and I have come across a situation where my uncle has made me feel very upset. I've since gotten over the upset, but haven't forgiven my uncle. My uncle has also talked about satan, and this has really upset me.
I do understand what you mean and how you feel, surely disownment should be weighed and really talked through before anything rash.