Promoting customer service first when your employer only cares about sales?

United States
July 22, 2009 12:30am CST
The title of this discussion was as close as I could get to the point within the character limit, and is quite vague, so let me explain: I no longer work in customer service (as in retail or fast food), but I did for years, and admittedly for a few different companies. The last place I worked for as a customer service rep was a huge department store that specialized in clothing (I'm not sure if I can quote the company name here). I had applied for a department position but was hired on as a cashier. I was asked in the interview if I was okay with asking people if they'd like to apply for a credit card. I was okay with that, but when I actually started the job, I figured out that reps were looked down upon for asking only once and not three times (rarely keeping the customer comfortable after they've already said, "No, I don't want a credit card--THANK YOU"). Most customers already had a store credit card, leaving only a small percentage to work with...and I was called into the manager's office numerous times because I wasn't meeting my "quota." But here's the thing: I was the best customer service rep they had when it came to service and helping the customers out, no questions asked. I literally had a customer tell my manager while in my line that I should have his job because he hadn't even greeted anyone, and here I was chatting, making jokes and conversation. I also had customers leave my supervisor's register line to come to mine because I was friendlier (I know this because they let BOTH my supervisor and myself know). I had people calling the store to compliment me, and even though I only worked there for three months, I had dozens of comment cards given to managers with good things said about me. Has anyone else had this problem? Despite the customer service I was providing--which was beyond the best, if I can risk sounding egotistical--I was called into the manager's office most often because I would ask about credit cards but never make the situation uncomfortable. In one meeting I had the store manager tell me, "When a customer signs up for a credit card, the store makes an average $1000 more the next year." I told him, "Yes, but with the other cashiers out there, I'm surprised the customers come back at all. They don't greet people, they don't smile, they aren't friendly...they are like robots. I will argue to the end that customer service brings people back just as well." He was left speechless...and I left the store for good the next week. With store policies like this, I'm not surprised customer service is less than satisfactory for so many businesses. I'm not surprised that people have more complaints to make than compliments. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
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• United States
23 Jul 09
Lovinglife...OOOOOOHHH! I can so relate! I have been in customer service for years....never in retail, but in the manufacturing business. I've had more compliments on my service with my accounts, than anyone in the offices that I have worked...however, on one job, I had a boss that had no idea what customer service was about. He actually was hired for the job, because he wanted a change of career after being an engineer most of his life. NOW, how can a engineer know anything about customer service. After 5 years in watching this man have no clue on his role as a manager, I finally left.
• United States
23 Jul 09
And, to top it all off...I just got layed from another job, because I was the one with the least seniority. However, the girl, who they opted to keep, was a young girl who complained about her job all the time, who spent more time texting her friends, who was the first person, when the boss left the office, to get up off her desk and yell out how much her job s**cked, and who was just plain nasty. The only thing she had going for her was her knowledge of computers and how to fix them. I was the one who did all the filing in the office when I was bored, would do all the jobs that the manager didn't want to do, because I wanted to keep busy. Employers should start realizing that it's the work habits of people that should be the most important, not how long someone is there...
• United States
28 Jul 09
You speak nothing but the truth. That girl may have had seniority, but they're going to have to spend extra money on wages since she doesn't work as hard as you did. Both seniority and experience are two things that truly have no relevance to how one works. I could have twenty years of experience and just not do the job even though if I did I would have done it right. Good luck with finding an employer who can see your work ethic and how they can benefit from it. :)
• United States
23 Jul 09
He was probably hired on because he had supervisory experience...and you can tell which managers are hired because of their experience rather than actually being good at the job and making customers feel comfortable. It sounds like he should have went back to engineering and they needed to promote someone who had worked there before. So many managers that get hired on because of past leadership roles really suck at their job, because some have never been down low in associate positions, so they don't know what all of the problems are or how to deal with them. No one in my family has a college degree...my father included, of course...but he worked for an elevator company for 13 years, straight out of high school. He was one of the best and said that before he left to do real estate full time, the company hired some guy to be a manager fresh out of college. The poor guy didn't have a clue what he was doing...and most likely making more money than my father did after 13 years (and he actually knew elevators!), it was a ridiculous idea. I don't have confidence in college degrees like most do and I don't have confidence in hiring because of so much experience. To take an engineer and throw him into a customer service position...wow, does it take rocket science to figure out it's not going to be two perfectly fit puzzle pieces?! :) Customer service employes millions upon millions of people. About 1 to 2% of those people do the job right. It angers me to see these people put down or get passed up by others who can only make the company more money.
@jojorv (201)
• Philippines
23 Jul 09
its a sad reality but most companies now a days are so focused on bottom-line figures rather than customer satisfaction. companies don't really care if you have a whole bunch of unsatisfied customers but as long as they are pumping huge profits to the company. sad but its true.
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• United States
23 Jul 09
What concerns me most is when companies focus on sales rather than customer service especially if they have a monopoly. Customers who then need the product cannot go anywhere else. Thank you for the comment. I've noticed a lot of people complaining about low customer service satisfaction...most of them customers rather than former employees, but still. :)
@mrakobesie (1246)
• United States
28 Jul 09
I always thought that the key is to be very helpful to the customer, some of my managers didn't think so. the fact was that when my brother and i were working in this one store there were a few customers that only shoped there because we worked there. some customers actually gave up on that store and when they came a few years later for something very small and got helped by me or my brother they started shoping there again.
• United States
5 Aug 09
Lovinglife...I just received this e-mail the other day, and I thought of you with this Customer Service Discussion. You may have seen it since I think it went around the world a dozen or so time, but I thought it was so hilarious, and wanted to share it with you. CUSTOMER SERVICE This has got to be one of the funniest I’ve heard of in a long time. I think this guy should have been promoted, not fired. This is a true story from the Work Perfect Helpline which was transcribed from a recording monitoring device in the customer care department. Needless to say, the Help Desk employee was fired; however, he/she is currently suing the WordPerfect organization for “Termination with cause.” Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee (now I know why they record these conversations!): “Ridge Hall computer assistance; may I help you?” “Yes, well I’m having trouble with WordPerfect.” “What sort of trouble?” “Well, I was just typing along, and al of a sudden the words went away.” “Hmmm. So what does your screen look like now?” “Nothing.” “Nothing?” “It’s a blank; it won’t accept anything when I type.” “Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?” “How do I tell?” “Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?” “What’s a sea-prompt?” “Never mind, can you move your cursor around the screen?” “There isn’t any cursor. I told you, it won’t accept anything I type.” “Does your monitor have a power indicator?” “What’s a monitor?” “It’s the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it’s on?” “I don’t know.” “Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?” “Yes, I think so.” “Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it’s plugged into the wall.” “Yes, it is” “When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?” “No” “Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable.” “Okay, here it is.” “Follow it for me, and tell me if it’s plugged securely into the back of your computer.” I can’t reach.” “Uh, huh. Well, can you see if it is?” “No” “Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?” “Oh, it’s not because I don’t have the right angle, it’s because it’s dark.” “Dark?” “Yes, the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in thru the window.” “Well, turn on the office light then.” “I can’t” “No? Why not?” “Because there’s a power failure.” A power……a power failure? Aha, Okay, we’ve got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?” “Well, yes, I keep them in the closet.” “Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from. “Really? Is it that bad?” “Yes, I’m afraid it is.” “Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?” “Tell them you’re too damn stupid to own a computer.”
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• Philippines
23 Jul 09
That's the sad part, we are the ones making the company look god while our bosses makes a hell out their customers or subscribers. i had similar incident in a call center, but that was harder because you don't see but only hear them. I did my part, some where good and most were nothing more than part of an angry mob, complaining. am glad am no longer part of hell of acompany.
• United States
23 Jul 09
I agree with you. And the only thing that is worse than the company's policies themselves are working for the company and having to abide by them! Did you have more trouble with your supervisors or the customers there? I've heard some pretty bad stories revolving around call centers...bad customers, quotas, and the like. I'm glad you're out of there! :)