can someone help
By trisha27
@trisha27 (3494)
United States
July 27, 2009 12:33pm CST
Ok well some may know that I have a new kitten and well I also have an older cat in the house. Well its been a week and well now the older cat has gotten used to her being there. But is this normal or did I do something wrong. Because now the older cat is trying to be all nice to the kitten and the kitten is trying to attack her. Like the older one will try and go and sniff her and just lay out or whatever. She likes to lay by mine and my hubby's feet and its like the kitten gets jealous or something and prepares for attack. I stop her in before anything happens. But its been going on fore 4 days or whatever. Maybe she's getting the older cat back for hissing at her when she first came in because she was at first all nice and stuff the new kitten and now well I don't know what's going on. So if anyone has any ideas what I can do I appreciate it. Otherwise I'm going to have to take the kitten to the shelter which I don't want to do, but if I have to for the safety of my older cat I will. Because now my older cat is scared of her and rarely goes near her any more.
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13 responses
@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
28 Jul 09
well, I suggest isolating the kitten and slowly introducing them, but you said you really didn't have a way to do so - its still the best way to do it, to keep them apart for a week, even if you have to put the baby in the bathroom, and then slowly reintroduce them - while there might be some seeming fighting, so long as its just batting at one another, its just the way they get acquainted.
@ElicBxn (63595)
• United States
28 Jul 09
A 7 week old kitten shouldn't be able to hurt a grown cat, so since the older cat seems to be doing well, she'll probably just pin the kitten down and give her a bath to keep her from attacking her.
The only exception to that is if she is a really tiny cat - I have a year old cat that is the size of a 5-6 month old kitten.
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
28 Jul 09
That is something I have been doing although I haven't tried the whole bathroom thing. She's been confined to the cage and the older one already seems attached and trying to get to know her and maybe want to play but the younger one, well she's about 7 weeks I want to say hisses at her and I guess this may be her way of playing I truelly don't know. She did so last night and then hopped back so she may be playing I'm not sure. But I've been watching her closely. But still kind of keep them seperated especially at night when its bed time. And we wake in the morning and we find the older cat which is a 1 yr and 3 months laying down watching her on the other side of the cage and 7 week old watching from inside the cage. They did quite well when I left them alone in one room all day but once again the baby in the cage.
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@kaitlyn_r1 (42)
• United States
28 Jul 09
Are you sure the kitten isn't just playing? Sometimes kittens can play rough, which bulds up their talents for when they get older. If your kitten really is attacking the other cat then I think you need to just set some rules. Flick the kitten's nose when it tries to attack, let it know that's not going to work. You need to start teaching the kitten now before things get worse. I wouldn't sugest taking it back to the shelter, not when there's other options. Start teaching the kitten now by flicking the nose, this causes pain and lets them no that it's something they shouldn't be doing, shooing away the kitten by stomping your foot on the ground when you see she's ready to attack, roll up a magaziene and slap it against your hand when she's going to do something bad, and even a squirt bottle works wonders when training. These things might seem a bit mean to do to some poor kitten, but the truth is, these are effective training methods that even I have used to train my cats when they were young, even my dogs. When I brought my kitten into the house, my older cat didn't seem to like him either. She would hiss and stay away from him, if he came up close then she would swat at him and hiss once more as if to say, 'This is my house, get out". This is normal. Think of it as someone strange coming into your house uninvited by you. How would you react? I don't know about you but I would act the same way. Telling them to get out. As time went by, she got used to the kitten and the kitten got used to her not trying to fight him. She started to raise him as if he was her own. Now, that he's older he fights with her from time to time, and she sets him in line. She will smack him if he does something that she doesn't like, so now she's training him for me. Normally, you would need to find out the kitten's past.. then go from there. When bringing a new kitten into the house, or any animal, normally you would put that cat into a crate or something and introduce them slowly, let them get the scent of one another. Just use the training methods and I can asure you everything will calm down. This will take time, but you just need to be patient.
@DevaJones (30)
• United States
29 Jul 09
It is true the kitten could just be playing kittens do play quite a bit so that they learn how to "hunt" and "fight" and do what cats do instinctually it is there learning period just like babies explore and do there thing so that when they are older they are aquainted with how the world works or at least they have some type of idea. You did a good think bringing the cat in in such hot weather it is hot here as well and cats jus do so well in the heat. Another training method that i've found that works well is...well food. Cats will do just about anything for food. but dont give them too much because they can get over weight. i dont like using other noise making or scare tactics because they are smart they learn what these things are and they either become terrified of you with the items, they find the items or ones like it and destroy them, or they can feel threatened and try to attack the item with you holding it, or just become scared of you. i dont like my pets to be scared of me just respectful. i have taught my cats how to do a number of things using foot and most importantly to NOT do many things i didnt want them to do using food.
@kareng (59287)
• United States
27 Jul 09
It sounds like the kitten is just acting like a normal kitten should. They are very playful and love to attack! You may want to give them more time to settle in, but I think you should expect this kind of behavior until the kitten reaches the teen years :) Good luck!
@jwfarrimond (4473)
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27 Jul 09
My sister is in the same position as she recently got a kitten and she already has an older cat. The kitten is driving her old cat crazy because it keeps jumping out on him and chasing his tail. He hisses at the kitten but it takes no notice. As the prevous poster says, it's just being a kitten. Kittens like to play rough and tumble games and your older cat is not interested. If possible, try to keep them separate, but in any event, things will settle down eventually, though it might take up to a year.
But again, as the previous poster says, please don't take the kitten to the shelter just for being a kitten.
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
27 Jul 09
I do plan on keeping them seperate for awhile due to the fact the kitten is only 7 weeks old and my older one is already a year. I want to wait till she's a bit bigger and older. Does your sisters kitten get jealous too. Well like she gets jealous when the older cat gets a treat and she gets none. Prob best to give her a treat when she's not looking. But thanks for the response.
@Elaine77 (315)
• China
28 Jul 09
haha, my cats Todd and Fish always try to attack the other one, Luna, while she is looking outside or taking a short nap, Luna hisses and try to scare them, but later they get good again, they seems to take it as a game, and they are getting along well.
Just be paitent, I think your cats will get along well eventually.
@cobra1368 (702)
• United States
28 Jul 09
I would give it longer to see how they do. If they don't like each other, chances are, the older one will just steer clear of the younger one. Kittens are little weirdos until they settle into their surroundings.
The older cat may decide one day to stand her ground and stop letting the kitten bully her. Unless you are seeing knock-out, drag-down fights, complete with blood and tufts of hair missing, I wouldn't worry about it. Let them work it out on their own. Cats are good at that.
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
28 Jul 09
I'm just thinking I suppose that she needs to settle more in her surrounding and being used to around another cat. She's been outside for part of her life and maybe faced a lot of mean cats. She's probably been out there for about 6 weeks of her life. I hope things get better.
@doglady112 (604)
• Canada
28 Jul 09
I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma,umm I was wondering is your older cat declawed and can you get the kitten declawed. Also your older cat doesn't have the energy as a kitten. So that may be part of the problem,maybe you should have thought about getting a younger cat but not so young. Sometimes older cats can be a little possessive over certain domains in the house too. Just a few thoughts for you, sorry you're having such a bad experience. Hope things turn around for you.
@jwfarrimond (4473)
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28 Jul 09
You should not advocating declawing. This is a procedure that involves amputating the ends of the cats toes. It's both painful and distressing for the cat, and it leaves it defenceless and unable to climb to get away from an attacker. Most vets will not do it anyway, but the procedure should be banned outright.
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
28 Jul 09
Id have to agree with everyone on this one. I adopted my older cat from the shelter and they most definitely stated that it would not be good to declaw them. They never suggest it and if you were to do so that the back ones at least. My husband had suggested because we have done this to our older cat. He suggested that we buy the soft claws and just file down her nails. We did that to the older cat and she was perfectly happy and she looked so happy with her soft claws and during that time she was not hurting us at all. That is something that I am considering but possibly when she is older if we keep her. Put some soft claws on him
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
28 Jul 09
I think that the kitten will most likely eventually stop doing this. Animals always try to show who's more dominant. It certainly is strange to hear that the younger one who is the newest to the house as well would be the one trying to establish dominance, but I doubt that it is something to worry about.
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
28 Jul 09
That is something that my husband and I were wondering cause she is so new and trying to be the dominant one over the cat whose older and has been here longer. I believe as she gets older and we keep her then she probably will turn out to be the dominant cat because she frightens off the older cat although the kitten is younger and smaller. Although I wonder if she is just playing I'm not sure. But I do hope that things get better.
• Canada
2 Aug 09
I can relate to this. It was like this a few years ago when I got a kitten (second cat). for a while it seemed the older cat was afraid of the kitten but when it started getting older they got really close and would wash each other, lay together, etc...
You need to keep an eye on things though. After all it's not your older cat you need to worry about, it's the kitten. Your older cat is probably confused with the new situation and is worried about being replace or what you'll do if it defends itself. so instead of defending itself it hides. But if cornered and angry that cat could possible hurt or kill the kitten. It's quite likely that the kitten is just trying to play (instinctively) and your older cat doesn't want to upset you.
After a few months my cats were not only affectionate they played with each other. If need be, separate them in rooms if it gets bad but it's a gradual process, one week isn't long enough.
@bingchen (1119)
• China
28 Jul 09
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@DevaJones (30)
• United States
28 Jul 09
Well being as I just got a new kitten as well and already had an older cat (2 years) i know what you are dealing with. But fortunately for me i've had them together for a few months now and everything is going well. My best answer for you is to try and find something called feliway. it is a scent that only the cats can smell it will help them to be a little more calm. It is natural and will not hurt them in anyway you just plug it into a wall outlet like a glade plugin. i never even noticed it after i plugged it in. and the cats went from clawing and hissing to liking eachother somewhat. It was not perfect right away but it did help. I will however agree with some of the other respondants kittens have a great memory. because it started out with my older cat hissing at the kitten. then the kitten was unsure of the older cat because of her previous behavior and she began hissing and puffing up her hair. then i got the feliway and the chilled out a bit. Then slowly they began playing (sometimes the playing does look like fighting but as long as there is no blood or screaming or anything its ok) and its been uphill from there. they sleep next to eachother, they eat next to eachother. By the way that is a good way to get them socialized a little better is to have them eat together. If they can ease into that it helps because animals gain trust over food. Now my cats are eating out of eachothers bowl and drinking from the same fountain. It does take time stick with it and give them what they need food love and patience it will all fall into place. It takes different amounts of time for them to adjust depending on their personalities (i guess i just got lucky). Also play with them together sometimes that little bit of distraction helps them forget they are uncomfortable because cats tend to focus on play (which to them is more like honing their hunting skills). I hope this helps sorry it was so long just thought i'd share my story since ours were so alike.
@Sweeten (159)
• United States
28 Jul 09
When I got a new kitten and had an older cat, the older cat HATED the newer kitten for about a week or so and got used to the kitten, but they have their days where they will hiss at each other still and the new kitten who is more entergetic will sometimes attack the older cat wanting someone to play with. Other than the new kitten being frisky I have no ideas as to what it could be.
@madamenihao (117)
• China
28 Jul 09
It is hard to deal with.....Divide them at the two different place.