Is this considered cutting in line?

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
August 24, 2009 10:50am CST
Yesterday I was at the grocery store to get something for my husband and a newspaper for my son. I had brought him with me because it was something he needed for school, so I figured he could face the hassle of going with me. He didn't want to stand in line to hold a spot while I went to grab ONE thing, instead he wanted to go find an energy drink. I was frustrated because I was in a hurry which is why I had asked him to just stand in line. Of course I got my stuff much faster and was already IN the line before he came back. He came right over to me, bypassing other people in the line. I told him that he could pay for it himself and then he started complaining about how he'd have to wait in a line again. I told him no, just stay with me and pay for his drink after me. OK - two questions. Since he was WITH me, wasn't it okay for him to stay with me and pay for his drink? If someone's kid got in front of you to be with their parent even if the parent asked them to pay for their own purchase, do you consider this cutting? Yes my son is 18, which is partially why I told him if he was going to be buying junk, he'd buy it himself. However, he is still totally dependent, and I drove him there. What do you think? For the record, he threw a gigantic fit HIMSELF and stormed out of the line when I asked him to pay for it himself and got into ANOTHER line, causing ME to have to wait for HIM instead of simply staying in the line with me and paying right behind me. I don't get it. Is this obnoxious behavior? Would you have told him to stay in the line with you or allowed him to have a fit and storm off?
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@UK_Shree (3603)
24 Aug 09
No I don't think there is anything wrong with what you did. Lots of people (including myself) do that all the time. At the end of the day, if there are two of you, you're still doing the polite thing if one of you waits in the queue. I do think that maybe your son was just in a funny mood, but I suppose at 18 years old it doesn't take much to get into a mood!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I never would have treated my mom like that when I was 18! EVER. The whole reason I took him with me to begin with was because HE needed a newspaper and dividers for his notebook at school. Since I had to go out to the stores because HE needed something, I figured why not interrupt his everlasting xbox 360 and make him come along? I think it did more harm than good, I just don't know what is even UP with the attitude - there I was taking him to get something HE needed and he acted like I was asking him to juggle burning knives in the desert.... He ASKED me too... he goes - hey, are you gonna get me the dividers and newspaper I need? Because I HAVE to have these things for school tomorrow... Hmm okay. Isn't part of that saying 'sure mom, I'll stand in line' and 'hey, thanks for doing that'?
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
29 Aug 09
I have been doing this, I hope that it is making a difference and teaching him how to become self sufficient. Apparently he told my best friend that he thinks I hate him because I just 'yell all the time'. Well, I would NEVER yell except for the fact that he NEVER does what he's supposed to ALL THE TIME lol. The problem is that sometimes he just goes without whatever instead of putting in the effort if I refuse to help. It's CRAZY. It's totally the opposite of me. It's like he has no drive.
@UK_Shree (3603)
25 Aug 09
I can completely understand why you are upset. Maybe the next time he needs you, just make him do it himself so that he understands and appreciates your presence.
• United States
25 Aug 09
no i would not say he cut in line he was with you so there for it was fine as far as what he did that sounds like my 11 and 7 year old but i guess kids will be kids and they always want to push there mothers buttons i would of just let him go because if not it may have caused more issues when it was time for him to pay for it.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I've already decided that next time he needs something, he can ask his dad, as I am not willing to do anything for a whiny kid with an attitude who insists on not acting his age while rubbing it in my face that he thinks he knows everything lol. Of course that means he'll have to wait for whatever it is because my husband doesn't get home till almost 5 in the evening, and on top of that, he doesn't usually want to go anywhere once he gets home. I think he (my son) deserves a taste of that independence he wants so bad - adults do everything on their own. Including trying to figure out how to buy whatever they need when they don't have any money - or not enough.... getting to the store without a car, and making sure they complete things for college or a job before the deadlines so they don't fail or get fired. Just a few things I am mentioning right here which he would totally flip out about if I told him he'd have to figure them out himself.
• United States
25 Aug 09
he is 18 so he needs to start to figure things out on his own, he has to understand that you can't carry him all his life its time he grows up and does things on his own there are a lot of people out there that do things on there own without a car,
@lesnan (537)
• United States
24 Aug 09
I would consider that cutting in line. If he just handed you the drink and his money, I wouldn't object.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Even though he was with me? Would you consider a wife or hubby who went to stand with his or her other half in line also cutting? Regardless of my son's age, he IS a kid, he was acting like a tantrumming toddler, and although I did find out he actually had the money to pay for the drink, he was acting like he didn't and if I had left him at the store it would have taken him a good hour to walk home lol.
@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
24 Aug 09
Sounds like obnoxious behavior to me. But also sounds like teenage behavior to me. Yes, he was with you, he should have gone to gt the drink, got back right behin d you or in front of you and payed for the drink. Of course another soltion would have been to make him give you the money and the drink and you let him wait for you. But I would let someone ahead of me if I knew he was with someone. It sounds like he wasn't even listening to you when you told him just stay with me. Or he didn't agree with you. Remember, teenagers know EVERYTHING, didn't you know that? The one question I have is, when he bypassed the other people, did they start complaining, accusing him of cutting? It sounds like the whole problem was him, not other people and not you.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Nobody complained. HE was the one who started drawing attention to himself by saying 'now I have to get out of line yadda yadda' and I said no you don't, you're with me, just stand right here and pay for your drink. He was mad at me because I was using a card and wanted me to just pay for it with the promise that he'd give me the money for it. He has a horrible track record of ever paying me back for things, so I am now to the point where I really don't want to let him 'borrow' anything because it's like he doesn't understand the term. Borrow means that he'll pay it back as SOON as he has money. Not never pay it back because he has no intention, or pay it back when he has money he didn't already spend before he got it....
@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
25 Aug 09
Also very familiar. Not that I have any kids but my girlfriend does. Her teenagers and even the older ones did the same thing to her. I think you're doing the right thing. Teach him early your bank is closed because he took advantage of you.
@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
25 Aug 09
i wouldnt have considered a child lining up with his parent as 'cutting in line' - because i would consider this as the 'same purchase' - my husband normally goes 'roaming around' while i stay in line - to pick up things that we might have forgotten to take earlier on.. so i think it is ok, if your son had 'stayed with you'.. but if it was me.. i would pay for it first - make him pay me back for it at home.. with cash or deduct his allowance.. ( that actually happens a lot when we go shopping with our kidz.. i'm done and waiting in line.. and they'll come up me later and just put their purchase in my cart.. and if i am done paying, or too far in front of the line already - there is usually an 'express lane' or something which we have in our local stores - for people have purchase of 8 or less items.. which my children usually runs to 'catch up with me'... ) anyway, i think i would been 'angry' with your son too - i would understand that he was upset that you made him pay for his own 'junk', but i dont think it was 'smart' of him to go to another line.. real waste of time..
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Oh, he glared at me too from that other line while I was waiting for my daughter in the bathroom. More or less he was super snippy about me insisting he paid for his own energy drink. He seems to think for some reason that if I FORCE him to go somewhere with me (the only time he is happy about going somewhere with me OR dad is when one of us is buying him something) that I owe him something - like an energy drink or that I'll stop at a fast food joint if he says he's hungry. Of course, he does that to himself, he tries to claim there is 'nothing to eat' at home when he's frigging lazy and doesn't go make himself a snack or lunch. I always tell him that if he has his own money, I will stop, but he usually grumbles and complains that he doesn't and that it's NOT FAIR. What's not fair about it? Adults buy their own food - or if they don't have the money for it, they don't buy it. Right? If my daughter asks for something, it is usually reasonable, like fruit or a fruit roll, and if she wants 'junk', she will usually remember to bring her own change from one of her piggy banks. Unlike her brother, if she 'borrows' money from me for something, she goes right home and pays me back.... and she says THANK YOU!
• Philippines
25 Aug 09
I have a thing about lines and queues and people cutting in. I always check to see which is the end of the line I want to get into, so that I wouldn't be cutting in front of people who've been in the line for quite some time already. If I were in your shoes, I would have asked him to give me the item(s) he wanted to buy AND to fork over money to pay for it. He could then go to the car and wait for me there or just beyond the check-out counter so we could go out together. Your son's behavior WAS obnoxious. It's ironic that teenagers want to be treated as adults, but when they are treated as adults and expected to act as adults, they revert to childish antics like tantrums.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I'm still trying to figure out how to get him to understand. My (step) daughter is 20 and she was nowhere NEAR this bad most of the time when she was 18. She had moments but after awhile I think she figured out that ranting that she was 18 while acting like she was FOUR made me and hubby really WANT to just treat her as if she was four. What other choice did we have? LOL! I don't get how he doesn't see he was acting more immature than his sister. I think it would be embarrassing to be caught acting more childish than a five year old in a grocery store if you're actually 18.
• United States
24 Aug 09
well if you have been paying for it on the same receipt then it wouldnt be but since he was paying for it as a totally separate thing i think it would be considered cutting but since its only one thing people shouldnt have a huge fit about it. i cant believe he had a fit about it!!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
He frustrates me so much sometimes. Honestly if he treats other people remotely as bad as he treats me sometimes, one of these days someone is going to clock him in the face lol. I don't want him to be a jerk to other people and I want him to understand that parents (and other adults) have boundaries and/or guidelines that he might NOT LIKE but that doesn't mean he can just disregard them, get an attitude, etc. I think the biggest problem I am experiencing right now is very weird. It's like he EXPECTS me to do things for him, like what I do for his sister. His sister is FIVE. Of course I drive her to school. Of course I get her all the school things her teacher asks for. However, she also brings home ALL THE PAPERS from school with the requests on them so I know BEFORE she is supposed to have things. Of course I make sure she has a sweatshirt and a jacket and a backpack. Of course I send her a snack and make her lunch. When you're five, that is what parents do. When you're EIGHTEEN, you can do some of that stuff YOURSELF! And not COMPLAIN because I didn't do it. And not COMPLAIN because I'm not home and you needed me to do something for you but you didn't ask nor mention it in advance. Gosh. But if I try to tell him there are boundaries or rules or consequences... omg, 'I'm 18, I don't have to listen to you'. Hmph. Which way do you want it? Do you want me to do things for you and will you THANK me because I sure don't HAVE to. Or do you want me to step back and you do everything yourself? Because we know he doesn't even keep track of his assignments for school or tell me AHEAD of time what his teachers asked him to get 2 weeks ago! Then he gets all bent at ME because I won't go out at 10 pm and get it for him!! Like I said... soooooo frustrating. I love him but I sure don't LIKE him right now.
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
24 Aug 09
I would have let him storm off and pay for it in whatever line he wanted to be in. If he is that upset, I don't want to be near him until he's had a moment or so to cool down, otherwise I might get angry and smack the boy Yes, I would consider it cutting in line, but it happens all the time. It's only bothersome if I am in a big rush to get out of the store and catch the bus since the bus only runs once per hour, while the normal customer's car runs all the time. And I do not blame him for not wanting to stand in line, holding the place. Too many times I've stood in line while a female went to get "one thing" and had to let others go in front of me because it's my turn and, shocker, there's no woman back yet
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Ha. Well, it literally only took me one minute to grab what I needed. The prime reason I went to the grocery store was to get the newspaper, since the paper box was empty. He did have his little fit and yell at me and act like there was something wrong with me telling him to KNOCK IT OFF. He then proceeded to complain that I didn't talk to his dad like that and I said well - your dad doesn't have a gigantic toddler type melt down in the grocery store because I asked him to stand in a line while I grabbed something that took one minute. There were 3 people in the line, it hadn't even moved when I got back. I also told him that his dad would never get pissy at me if I said 'buy your own energy drink' and then storm off into another line instead of just staying with me to buy it lol. Of course at that point he was SO MAD at me he was looking everywhere except at me, so who knows how much of that he actually got through his head. Of course, his dad (my husband) also ACTS like he's a reasonable adult and not an 18 year old who acts like he's 12. I happen to believe that if you're chronologically 18 but you ACT younger, then you should be treated younger, by EVERYBODY until you grow up. If you never grow up... well then it's your fault and it will continue until you do.
• United States
29 Aug 09
I do not consider this cutting in line. I have gone grocery shopping with a sister or other family member and we will put our stuff in the same buggy and pay seperate. I have even gone and we each fill up buggies and will get in line and one of us will forgetsomething and have to go back. To me if you enter the building together then it is ok to hold a spot as long as you entered the line together. Paying seperatly is fine with me expecially if you are teaching your children (or even friend) responsibility
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi mommyboo, you cannot allow yourself to be shown up by someone who is that age anywhere, you must have been mortified. It sounds as though you need to make clear to him that that kind of behaviour is not to be tolerated and send him to the shop alone next time. I wouldn't put up with that from a two year old never mind an eighteen year old. If he still lives at home with you I'd advise making him do more things around the place to give him more sense of responsibility, plus a clear talking to about how his behaviour reflects on you. And yes as the two of you were paying separately he should have taken in his own place in the queue as he was pushing in; I wouldn't consider it pushing in if he handed over his own cash to you at the till.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Aug 09
I don't think it is cutting in line. I will do that when I go shopping with my mother all the time. We will go to the store together and have two tickets and will inevitably forget something and whichever of us had forgotten something would run and get the forgotten item, then come back and get right back in line where we were. No one has ever complained. The thing that bothers me is that he threw a fit about it. It was really a non-issue to start with and your son made it into an issue and brought attention to the situation.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Sometimes he is highly embarrassing, and for parents of toddlers and preschoolers who think it gets better when they are teenagers, sorry but it doesn't. He's the sort of kid (yes I still call him a kid because he chooses to act like one) who asks for stuff and then whines when I say no, but if I threaten him with consequences because of the whining, he will puff himself up and go 'I'm 18, I can do what I want'. Well, which is it?? Do you get to ask for stuff and EXPECT me to buy it for you because you're being a whiny baby or are you actually 18 and you can pick it out, buy it yourself, and not cause the whole store to look and see who the big grouchy whiner is? LOL!
• Kenya
26 Aug 09
Children don't see things the way adults do. I hope your son saw the sense of you telling him to stand in line. I would have done the same thing. You should have ignored him when he threw the tantrum. Throwing a fit is a way of controllingyou.
@realan (518)
• United States
24 Aug 09
I don't consider this cutting, since you were together. And yes your son's fit is obnoxious. But I guess that it's typical teenage behavior. (Something I definitely am not looking forward to. My daughter is 9 now.) Not sure what I would do, since I don't have a teenager. So much easier to tell a 9 year old that she has to stay with me. I hate scenes, but would have tried to tell him that he needs to stay with me, as we are leaving together and I'm in a rush. But, of course, he would have probably stormed off anyway!!!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Even my daughter thought he was acting like a baby. When he was having his fit she said 'that's because DADDY doesn't talk to her like that' when he was griping at me. lol. Well gee, no kidding! I don't think all teenagers are like this, but he has certainly been a pain lately.
@jimntam (93)
• United States
26 Aug 09
I don't really think it was cutting since he was with you and besides people let other people ahead of them when they only have one item to purchase all the time. I can understand your frustration. I have an 18 year old KID myself. My situation might be a little different since my son has a learning disability. His understanding of the world is more like an 8 year old than an 18 year old. (If that) I'm not sure what I would have done in your situation. Maybe one of a few things. What you did and let him just stand in another line if that made him feel better about the situation. But like you said you were in a hurry and that didn't speed things up any. 2: Tell him to either pay for the drink or put it back. 3: Say, fine, I'll buy your drink and you can buy the newspaper and other stuff you need. Or my favorite idea is to add to his embarrassment and confirm with the person behind him that it's okay for him to get his one item. I agree with someone else on here that next time if he needs something last minute to say, "Well you better hurry up before the store closes and go get it." Anyway, good luck to you. Sounds like he wants it both ways. For you to do everything for him like was five like his sister and to get to do what-ever he wants like he's all grown up now.
@mflower2053 (3223)
• United States
25 Aug 09
My mom and I do that all the time. I don't think that is cutting. I know you didn't have enough stuff to have a buggy but we usually share the same buggy so we have to go together and at times I will finish before she does or the other way around and we go stand in line to hold a spot. Sometimes I have to let others go ahead of me b/c she takes so long.