Dress codes and uniforms in schools

United States
August 27, 2009 8:23am CST
Hello :) When I was in school years ago, we had a "dress code" but did not wear uniforms. There are some debates today about dress codes and uniforms...some believe it robs a student of their individuality, while others feel that it puts students on equal ground and helps prevent "labeling" of some as odd, poor, etc. Do the students in your area have a special dress code or do they wear uniforms? Or are they allowed to dress however they wish? What do you think is best, and why? Karen
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Hello my friend smoochess to you I think school uniforms are the best thing since banana pudding, not only do they look nice when you see all the kids dressed in their uniform it saves a lot of money for the parents, and like you said it cuts down on the teasing for kids that might not be able to afford the expensive jeans or whatever it is others kids may wear, I love the idea
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• United States
27 Aug 09
Smooches back to you, Miss Kitty! I am also all for a dress code, and better yet, uniforms! It saves problems in many areas...what to wear each day, how much money must be spent on the clothes, and yes, no one need feel set aside or inferior or superior when all dress alike! Have a great evening. Karen
• United States
28 Aug 09
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello my friend Best thing that ever happened to these schools if you ask me
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• Pamplona, Spain
28 Aug 09
Hi PeacefulWmn9, Where we live now there are no school uniforms they dress as they wish this only applies to the public schools though. One or two private Colleges make the children wear School Uniform although there is no strict dress code either. Not the same when we were at School and you had to wear the School Uniform just so. Not one thing out of place. If you broke the dress code you were sent home from School and you had to go back wearing the correct uniform. Dress code was School Uniform only, no earrings, no rings no incorrect hairstyles, no other shoes except school shoes and no stockings except the School Ones. Dress code was included for the Blazer which had to have a School Badge on it and the Beret you had to fasten it on your hair with hairclips. The beret also had to wear the School Emblem as well. Dress code again you were sent home if you came to School unduly dirty or untidy. Our School Uniform made us all equal as there was a lot of poverty then so I would say it was pretty fair rules about the dress code and all that. You always had a lot of girls trying to get into School wearing earrings and things and makeup and they were punished sent home to wash it all off and then they had to come back and make up for lost time. This kind of dress code using School Uniforms is great but not taken to extremes like ours often was. This also applied to the boys as well.
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Lovin. I am all for school uniforms, but yes, yours was way too rigid! No one can be so perfect all the time without feeling the stress of it. Other than that, uniforms seem to put the students on an equal footing as far as finances go, and it also seems more conducive to learning as opposed to a fashion contest or social event. The socializing and individual fashion choices can surely wait for after school hours and homework. Thank you for your insights...very good ones! Karen
• United States
29 Aug 09
Oh yes, I loved reading Jane Eyre! I do know that almost all of us, as teens especially, express our ways or rebel in some form when we are not in school. It is part of discovery our individuality! We didn't have uniforms, but we did have a dress code where all the girls must wear skirts or dresses, so once home, we quickly changed into our jeans and favorite tops, etc...whatever happened to be "in."
• Pamplona, Spain
29 Aug 09
Hi peaceful,School Uniforms are a must in a way. What we had to endure was not the way we wanted to be. Dress Code of our School and I appreciate all that now in many ways was more like that of the Institute Jane Eyre was forced to attend if you have ever read the book she does not want to dress like this any more than any other girl. We were teenage girls secretly rebelling inside when we had to wear that Uniform. Fashion was a big must when we got back home we got straight into our normal clothes and dressed up the way we wanted to. Fashion for me since then has always been a driving thing even if I have not been able to afford all the clothes I would have liked I still have gone window Shopping to view all the latest things. In a way this has been caused by having to stick to that dress code that was imposed on us you always find another outlet to let out the stress as you call it. I used to meet some of my school friends up town out of school and they used to really let their hair down lol. Not only that of a dinner time they would go home and change into their normal clothes so you see we were all rebels at heart. Just trying to say that none of us liked the severity of the rules but we had to live with it for a while lol. Take care.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
27 Aug 09
In my opinion a uniform is far preferable, we had a dress code at our school and had to wear all the right clothes, failure to do this meant we were either sent home or letters to our parents warning us about the rules of wearing the correct clothes, and jewellery too, boys weren't even allowed to wear earings, that's how far I go back! I do believe this is for the greater good, because if you were able to wear your own clothes there would be added bullying for families who were not able to dress their children in the latest fashion or with designer labels and tags would be subject to bullying and called names. Bullying was bad enough at me school, believe me I was the subject of it, I think if we didn't have uniform then I would have got bullied even more, as my family were not rich, far from it. It also distinguishes the school by the uniform so if there is any trouble outside school it reflects badly on the school and the perpetrators can easily be named and shamed by the uniform they are wearing, so it teaches them that their behaviour is not only monitored in school but outside too. I do hope they never decide to do away with uniforms especially in this day and age where designer labels are a must and sadly bullying goes on.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
27 Aug 09
You too! I'm off to bed now Karen, night night, sweet dreams!
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• United States
27 Aug 09
Hi Wolfie. We also had a dress code "back in the day," mostly for purposes of decency (mini skirts were "in") and for neatness. Girls were not allowed to wear jeans or slacks, and boys had to keep there hair short enough not to hang over the collar of their shirts. I was teased a lot for hand-me-downs in grade school, so uniforms would put an end to that, and as you said, it makes it easier for one to identify a childs/teens school affiliation! So, up with uniforms...and have a great evening. Karen
• United States
28 Aug 09
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
27 Aug 09
Hi Karen! Here in our city, almost 95% of schools of uniforms and all students are required to wear uniform. I suppose it makes sense the when all students wear same uniform, there looks a uniformity and they look similar. If they get to wear different dress, they might feel the difference in their financial status and that may affect their relations with each other.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
28 Aug 09
So, we both are thinking alike.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello Deepak. You have stated what I feel is one of the biggest things in favor of wearing uniforms in school...to end any appearance of financial lack that might cause some students to treat with negativity others of lesser means. Thank you for your insights. Karen
@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
27 Aug 09
hi karen, in our place most of the convents(private education institutions) follow the dress code i think this is for the recognition of the school,bout our govt. institutions will not follow the dress code,have a nice day
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@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
30 Aug 09
hi karen, thanks for the comment to the response,in India only private convents that is English medium schools,have a nice day
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello Yugasini. So like here in the US, some have dress codes and some do not. We have a just a few schools that use uniforms, which I have come to feel are the best way to go. Thank you for sharing how things are where you live and have a great day! Karen
• United States
1 Sep 09
@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
28 Aug 09
there are some schools in the philippines that don't prescribe uniforms to their college students but i've been a personnel of a college and during days when students are allowed to wear civilian clothing they are given a penalty or a warning from the guidance office to which i run. the reason is we're grooming professionals so students are limited by the dress code. individuality and even creativity can still be expressed through colors and plain creativity itself in trying to bring this out even with dress codes . peace .
@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
29 Aug 09
you're very much right in the existence of numerous styles of ordinary clothes that really make it distracting to concentrate on studying . i wonder where it would lead. i mean way back in college, my time, the bigger and looser the outfit the better. now, the smaller, tighter and shorter the better.
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• United States
29 Aug 09
Yes, Ritchelle, it seems pants keep riding lower, and tops keep getting shorter! Everything in between is just right out there...and that has to be an attention-grabber. Karen
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello Ritchelle. I feel there are many ways to decently express creativity and individuality, such as with color like you pointed out. I do believe fewer colleges have uniforms than they do in the lower grades. But I've yet to hear of any school that did not have some sort of dress code, even if it is rather relaxed. Some of today's trends in style are really too revealing and distracting to promote study lol, especially in an age group when hormones are already in high gear! Karen
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
27 Aug 09
Hi Karen! How are you doing? Miss you. Coming to the discussion, I am in favour ofa dresscode till school level. I feel itsessential in the growing process of a child.The feeling of being one and also not being distracted by prosperity andextravagance is very important. This also instills in us a feeling of oneness,decorum and obeyance.
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• United States
27 Aug 09
Hi Mimpi...it is so nice to see you :)) Like you, I also believe that a dress code or uniform is a good thing to keep the children more equal as to what is worn. It doesn't make one stand apart from another and discourages kids from picking on one another about who can or cannot afford which clothes. Thank you for you input, and again, nice to see you :)) Karen
• Indonesia
28 Aug 09
if i am a headmaster (your school) i'll make it up to you
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• United States
28 Aug 09
LOL, thank you Zan...have a great evening!
@AKMEDIA2 (328)
• United States
8 Sep 09
I believe uniforms are better than a special dress code. That way parents and kids don't have to stress about buying particular clothing. They can just buy what is provided by the school bookstore. It saves a lot of time and money.
• United States
12 Sep 09
Hello Akmedia. You're right...it takes a lot of guesswork out of the whole concept of shopping for back to school clothes and for your child trying to keep up with the latest and most expensive trends! Thank you for your input Karen
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Peaceful...I can understand the case against dress codes but I believe that there is more of a case for them especially in the situations of recent years. I think that with more cases of bullying and labeling there is cause for concern as the dress of a student can single them out as being poor or "not in". Although my son is not even of elementary school age I wonder what will happen when he has to go to school and is not wearing the "right" sneakers or other item of clothing. I remember a story a colleague once told me about her daughter - I believe she was in high school at the time. The daughter pleaded with the mother to purchase this particular bag for her - and it was expensive. The mother finally purchases the bag and the daughter gets teased anyway because that particular bag was "last week." It's sad that so much is placed on what you have instead of who you are but in this day and age that's my best argument for a dress code.
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Deejean. I can identify with your concerns. When I was in school, we hadn't a lot of money...not destitute or anything, but still, not able to keep up with all the latest "fads." And the same was true when my own kiddoes were in school. I allowed them ONE brand name something, and the rest was decent but inexpensive. And it is sad when the teasing and bullying go on. Education is the purpose, not fashion or social hour. That is why the more I research the matter, the more convinced that uniforms are the best way to go for parents and students! Thank you so much for your insightful response. Karen
• Kenya
28 Aug 09
Most schools in my area wear uniforms. It is neat and gives the student an identity. It is also a marketing tool for schools especially those schools that perform well. Most schools have their logos on their jumpers or blaizers. I think schools should wear uniform. It helps to identify students in large. crowds.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello there :) I think the way it is done in your area is good, and I hope that soon becomes so in my own area. Uniforms allow a child to identify with their particular school, and they dress alike, so no stigmas or bullying about income of the family! I think that is a plus. I certainly appreciate your input. Have a beautiful weekend. Karen
@olepmis (840)
• Philippines
28 Aug 09
It is better to have uniforms either in school or offices because there is equality in dress and save you more money in buying more clothes. And you are right, using uniform you cannot identify who are rich and poor.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi there, Olepmis :) I hope your day has gone well. I think you are right in that uniforms do not allow for attaching social stigmas based on finances to students, and I can see that they would indeed save money in the long run for parents. It just seems they put the students on a more equal footing and are more conducive to keeping the focus on learning. Thank you for sharing your voice here. Karen
@jimntam (93)
• United States
28 Aug 09
If you would have asked me this question when I was a teenager years and years ago I would have been against the uniform issue. We had a dress code that wasn't really strict on what to wear it just covered the basic common sense issues like skirts not too short, no tank tops or tube tops, appropriate shoes, no shorts and things like that. My kids schools have pretty much the same thing although I've noticed some kids can break those rules while others can not. It was that way when I was a kid as well. Anyway, after being out in the work force I've become more accustomed to the idea of uniforms or even a very strict dress code. Just about every job I've had has had some kind of dress standards. From only certain color and type of slacks and tops to professional looking attire. One Job I wasn't allowed to wear tennis shoes or socks. It had to be casual or dress shoes and nylons. So I guess what I'm saying is that the kids might as well get to use to it because we're told how to dress for more than just school. I think the nice thing about wearing a uniform is that if it's still clean you can wear it more than one day and nobody would know. Unlike regular clothes.
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello there to you :) It is interesting how we change our opinions as we mature, yes? Your dress code when you were in school sounds very much like the one I had to follow, and though a code still exists, it does seem to become more and more relaxed with time. And you make a great point. Nearly every single place of work DOES have some kind of dress code that each employee must follow. Our children should get a bit used to that, since that is just how it is in the "grown-up" world. Even as adults, we have rules to follow! Thank you so much for participating in this discussion, and have a nice night. Karen
@AJAntony (33)
• India
28 Aug 09
It is always better to have school uniforms during school days as it will be crucial growing day for any of the indiviuals in the world.During college days there is no need to have uniform.As college days are the most beautiful days in th world
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi AJ. I very much agree with you. I hope the US begins to follow this habit of uniforms. But as you said, college days are some of the most memorable in life, and by then, the hope is that one has matured past all the competive ways that go with "no dress code" in the younger school years. Have a beautiful weekend, and thank you for expressing your opinion here. Karen
@elenyae (388)
• Australia
2 Sep 09
I wouldn't have such a big problem with uniforms (especially at private schools) if they didn't cost so bleedin' much!! Some students on scholarship (like myself) are only at these schools by the grace of someone else's generosity and seriously should not be expected to fork over $100 for a blazer, $50 for a regulation boater not to mention skirts, shirts, ties, shoes and stockings.
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• United States
2 Sep 09
Hello Elenyae. Whoa! That is a lot of money. I think all school clothes cost a lot, but at least if a uniform is not required, one can shop thrift stores, etc. Ack! Best wishes and a happy day to you. Karen
• United States
28 Aug 09
From 5 years old until I was 17 yrs old I wore a school uniform and I am definitely 100% all for it. After seeing all that went on with my own daughter attending a school that had no uniform code there is so much distraction and competition where the kids all take notice of what is being worn instead of learning.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Heather. They say experience is the best teacher, and I am with you 100%. I wish uniforms had been a requirement when my own daughters were growing up. It always seemed that clothes were far too much a focus, and yes, a distraction when the actual focus should have been on education! Thank you for sharing your experiences. Karen
@horsesrule (1957)
• United States
28 Aug 09
We have a uniform policy at the elementary school my grandsons go to and we like it. It's convenient to be able to send them to school in a uniform because it looks tidy and no one can really tell that we don't have much money and buy a lot of our school uniforms at thrift stores. If we really needed the help, the school helps out those kids that can't afford the uniforms by holding uniform drives to collect uniforms. Overall, we've been really happy with the uniform policy and neither one of the boys seems to have suffered from a lack of individuality.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hello to you :) I think it's wonderful that their is help available when it is needed to buy uniforms. We have similar drives for school backpacks, shoes, coats, etc. in my area. And yes, individulity comes mostly from within rather than from whatever one wears on the outside. Thank you for sharing your experiences and ideas Karen
@agv0419 (3022)
• Philippines
28 Aug 09
When I was still studying we have school uniforms and many prefer to wear it so we would not thinking what to wear in school everyday. If you have a uniform you would not buy clothes very often for school so it is much cheaper. Not all students can afford to buy new clothes even if the public schools don't requiring the students to wear uniform as long as the clothes they are wearing in school is clean and decent.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Agv. After having seen (and heard) my daughters agonizing each morning about what to wear to "look cool or fit in" all through their middle school and high school years, I am thinking uniforms would have been a blessing! And yes, all clothes cost money, but with uniforms, a few would do, since they can be washed often. I appreciate your opinions and thank you for responding. Karen
@webearn99 (1742)
• India
28 Aug 09
Yes we have dress code for college students and uniforms for school children in India. And for the very same reasons of uniformity and decency. I am a die hard conservative and support both despite the protests the young people put up. At school or college a student is participating in a mass activity of learning. It is simply not possible to be individualistic in that atmosphere. All the teaching and the rules have been designed on regional averages in learning parameters and are very relevant. The only way individuality can be projected is to standout in the very purpose of schooling, learning. If clothing were to determine individuality, then individual tutoring is the only way. As far as dress code is concerned, the whole purpose of going to school or college is to learn. It is not as if schools or colleges are fashion shows where young individuals can flaunt the latest trend in fashion industry. Yes "Feel good" factor is necessary, but diverting attention from learning to fancies is simply not desirable. If fashion is a consideration, after school hours are always there for it. Chill out then.
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Web...I totally agree with all you've said. School is for learning, not for "socializing." Socializing can be done after school days or at other functions. And it certainly shouldn't be a fashion show. As you've said, individuality can be shown in scholastic excellence, or in personality alone, rather than in dress. And friendships and friendly competition are another way to shine and yet still focus on the importance of education. Again, extraordinary information and opinion. Thank you! Karen
@bvijayks (137)
• India
28 Aug 09
i remembered my school days because of ur discussion.ya my school has dress code but i enjoy bunking my dresscode and wearing colour dress. i find two strange ideas which is related to dresscode 1 according to teachers or lecturers dress codes means uniformity as such all are equal in school no rich no poor etc 2 according to students its a regular routine booring stuff which you have to wear even though ur not interested in it but some cool dudes like me enjoy bunking the dress code n be different from others
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Bvijayks. I hope your school memories are good ones! We have dress codes, but they say more what you cannot wear than that everyone must dress in a similar way. If someone breaks those rules here, they are sent home and cannot come back unless they follow the rules, which are not awful or anything. Thank you for expressing your opinions, and have a nice day. Karen
@mdrgsm (61)
• Ukraine
28 Aug 09
When I was in school I went to a private school, so I had a uniform, then going into high school I was lost. There was no uniform and no dress code. I had to figure out my individuality the hard way. However, I am torn on this debate. On one hand I think that people should be able to choose what they wear and where they it, as long as it is within reason. Like the movie with Adam Sandler when he found out he was a dad supposedly. He let his son choose what to wear, I think his son went overboard on his outfit, however he was being unique and expressing his individuality. Now on the other hand, some people do take it too far with what they wear. Now a days kids go to school half clothed or with their pants hanging below their knees. That I feel is inappropriate. Pretty soon we will have to blindfold our kids just to walk down the street. I don't think that if a school enforces a dress code or uniform that it should cost the parent extra money though. That should all be provided for. Maybe then there won't be as many objections, especially in times that it's harad enough to get food on the table, little own buy a uniform. It would also save on cost of a "school year" wardrobe. They wouldn't need as many new clothes at the start of a new year. Great discussion, thanks. Have a Blessed Day!
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• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Md...wow! You've brought up so many great points to consider, and that is great. Like you, I think NO dress code invites too much bawdy junk...half dressed teens, vulgar t-shirts, etc. Not exactly conducive to studying. That's a bit too much self-expression and leeway, yes? And then the cost. In that respect, uniforms "might" be a savings. Parents who try to keep up with the Jone's, so to speak, can go broke on just one pair of name-brand jeans! Some of the discussions here have suggested good alternatives...a dress code vs a uniform, or uniforms, with the option to buy them used or have some monetary help to get them (available in some locations), or uniforms with a few days where one can come in their "normal" clothes. The responses here have been so enlightening! Thank you for yours. Karen