Man arrested for kissing daughter !

@krupesh (2608)
India
September 7, 2009 9:35pm CST
An Italian tourist was arrested for kissing his daughter in Brazil.A couple who were by the side of a pool saw this man touching a young girl inappropriately & reported with the police.They did not know that the young girl was the man's daughter. Under a strict law to combat child abuse , the man faces upto 8 to 15 years in jail.Have the police done the correct thing in arresting him without getting to know the facts?
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
This is when the rules are no longer made for men, but men made for the rules. There are always two sides of the coin in every decision, and just listening to what a stranger has to say or comment about an act not seen by the police themselves makes everyone too vulnerable of just being picked up and questioned. Where's democracy there? How was he touching her? Was there a struggle? How did the daughter react?? Perhaps for the father and daughter it was just nothing, I kiss my dad on the cheek in public or hug him when I'm delighted about some news or so, perhaps the onlooker was just too malicious. Well, we would never know. But I think the police or any individual must first know the facts before doing some traumatic thing just because someone had reported it in such a way. It's okay for teenagers to be passionate inappropriately in public places than for a father-daughter to share a moment? I'd be worried then because my brother and his family are practicing smacking on the lips with their kids. hehehe.. I'd wonder if they'd be booked for that in public soon?
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@krupesh (2608)
• India
8 Sep 09
The daughter is 8 yeras old & the pic I saw was that the man was kissing on her lips.The strangers who saw that also say that the man was touching inappropriately.It happens to everyone that while playing by the poolside we seem to touch everywhere.Whats wrong with that?
• United States
8 Sep 09
I think I would also have to see what happened, but if it was just a normal father daughter thing (and I wonder, in a public place, really, how inappropriately would someone be touching their daughter? If it was an abuse case would they be doing it at a public pool?) then its ridiculous. It sounds like someone seeing something that was inappropriate for their culture, which could have been normal for them. I do agree the people should respect the culture they are in, but, assuming it WAS normal contact, I don't think you would think 'that means I can't kiss my daughter'! And it works both ways - if someone says, sorry, we are not of this culture and we didn't realize it was so offensive' then that can be understood, he should be jailed, that's beyond ridiculous. HOWEVER if he was truly touching his kid inappropriately, and there are witnesses and proof that it truly was, not just a misinterpretation by the people watching, by all means lock him up and chuck away the key!!
@krupesh (2608)
• India
8 Sep 09
Hello englishteaduck, First of all a nice name but what does that mean? coming to the point , yes if he is found guilty with some proof he should be left alone in the jail.His wife was also besides them when this happened.She is also supporting her hubby to free him from jail.
@Jemina (5770)
8 Sep 09
Italians are passionate people, aren't they? And if the father is pervert, he would not have done that in a public swimming pool with wife beside him. It's really unfair that the police didn't investigate the matter further and just listened to one side of the story. And to think that the wife is there, I am getting furious over those couple who reported it without observing first. They are narrow-minded or worse their mind is closed.
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@Jemina (5770)
8 Sep 09
Oh, that's too bad for the father. Poor fela, he fell victim of the biased and corrupt police system. I do hope everything will go well and he will be freed real soon. I also hope that the Italian embassy in Brazil would rush to his aid.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Sep 09
My thoughts entirely Jemina! It took me a while to get used to seeing how affectionate Italians can be but that is there way. I feel this incident has been blown out of proportion. To make matters worse this incident has had a bad effect on the health of the father. He has been taken ill in the prison where he was being held after his srrest and has now been admitted to hospital I absolutely agree that we should protect our children but we should not interfere in situations that are pefectly normal. The facts should be known BEFORE any accusations are made and the media are allowed to disgrace people for something they are not guilty of
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@Jemina (5770)
8 Sep 09
I don't know Alice. I searched for the news but didn't find any follow-up.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Sep 09
hi krupesh well it must depend on how he was kissing her and how'young the child was. was she a teen or a little girl, did he kiss her in the french sexy way. I mean just because it turns out the girl is his daughter might still mean he was abusing her sexually. Perhaps the police did see something that was wrong and even if the girl was his daughter would not have been proper or decent.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Sep 09
It was blown out of proportion and he has now been cleared of all charges.
@danilliam (278)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
o that is too bad but they also need to consider the culture in different places when they are travelling.it can be because they are like that at home but in different places, fathers and daughters and mothers and sons do not kiss each other even if it is because of parental love.the policeman cannot be blame because he is only doing his duty and follow the training that he has done.but they also have to forgive the father and daughter if they did that and maybe give them a warning not to do it again in their country.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Sep 09
In Brazil they have tightened up on the laws but they had not indeed taken into consideration the fact that this family was from Italy where affectionate embraces are very common among menbers of the family. All charges have now been dropped and he is on his way home.
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• Philippines
6 Oct 09
people have different culture.even if they were a couple traditional people might not like public display of affection. o it is good that they able to come home.=)
@aprces (1082)
• China
8 Sep 09
Even if the man wasn't the girl's father,why can't he kiss a girl,they also can be a couple or two lovers,won't this be tenable on logic? I can't understand it,moreover,latin-american must be very open and warm in our traditional impression.What is the law Brazilian are using now?
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
8 Sep 09
This is just one more example of how the laws that are supposed to protect us and being used against us.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Sep 09
It's is happening much, much too often too
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Sep 09
All is well that ends well, even though his health suffered from this episode. : http://www.ansa.it/site/notizie/awnplus/english/news/2009-09-11_111418855.html
@zoey7879 (3092)
• Quincy, Illinois
8 Sep 09
I honestly would have had to seen this kiss before I drew a judgement call... A quick peck on the cheek or a quick peck on the lips is a far cry different than a lasting lip lock and slipping some tongue... I think that they should do some EXTREME investigating before they sentence this man to something that may have just been a poorly misinterpreted show of affection or even someone simply trying to show hate due to race/origin.. or worse yet, be those stupid irritating takes everything to the extreme quacks that have to stir the pot due to jealousy.. from the lack there of or for not making the cut themselves... I hate those types!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 Sep 09
Indeed all charges have now been dropped.
@Eisenherz (2908)
• Portugal
8 Sep 09
Withouth knowing the facts? Well, and what are the facts? Incest? To me it's fair that this creep was arrested. Displaying affection in this way is beyond acceptable for someone of your family. Actually he mustn't have been very smart to begin with, to do it in a country extremely conservative when it comes to religion and familiar values. Hope he gets the 15.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Sep 09
I feel that it depends on where it happens. It is extremely usual here in Italy for family members to be very affectionate. I am sure there has been a huge mistake and all will be sorted eventually.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
9 Sep 09
Sadly, people have to watch for these sort of things because they are all too common. The police will have done the wrong thing if they don't let him go once they realize that it is his daughter.
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
8 Sep 09
they absolutely did not do their job. if a parent cannot kiss their own child then what the heck is this world coming to? how was the kiss inaapropriate? i guess i need more details here. affection between a parent and child is essential and it is a loving gesture. there is a big difference between affection and abuse.
@vivianchen (2646)
• China
8 Sep 09
I think the policement did the right things. I mean, to be honest, who will know that young girl was his daughter? What about the girl was not? Of course after the investigation, if the police was made the wrong judge, i think the police officer should appologize in public for what they done to this father. Otherwise, the father's reputation will be ruin as he was arrested in the pubilc.
• United States
8 Sep 09
This is a case of "you had to be there". Then you have to add in peoples personal opinions. For all I know that couple could believe its a sin to walk backwards singing Silent night. As for the kiss on the lips well some people find that weird to do with someone you're related to but for some families its a normal act to do a peck on the lips when saying hello or good bye.
@dbabcook (388)
• United States
8 Sep 09
WOW! That is totally unacceptable behavior and yes I do feel that this man needed to be punished as this is a crime. Granted no one knows the entire situation but what more is there to really know. He should have never been inappropriately touching his own child or anyone elses for that matter.
@requital (41)
8 Sep 09
Im all for helping stop child abuse, but sometimes things get taken a little too far. Any man seen alone with a small child is suspicious in modern day society. In a recent study, a child actor wondered around a busy mall crying who obvoiusly lost her parents. Men (and Women) simply walked past the crying child. When the men were taken aside and questioned 9/10 men who noticed the crying child and had reached the conclusion that she had lost her parents simply walked past her. When asked a major reason for not stoping or helping was the fact that they may be considered paedophilic.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
8 Sep 09
It's hard to say because we don't know how he touched his daughter. These laws are in place for a reason and sometimes it actually turns out that the father is really doing something bad to his own daughter. A father kissing his daughter is nothing bad but it all depends on how he does it and where. People are arrested and then investigated thoroughly. They are only charged with the crime when there is evidence against them. I think it is good he was taken in for investigation because for all we know, he could be doing something bad to his own child.
@sasalove (1709)
• China
8 Sep 09
Oh, unbelievable about that, it is exactly offensive for Italian if they heard the news, what is the laws in Brazil? Even I trust different culture may cause different contradict or mistake, but they should research and prove whether the fact is true. How old is the girl? If her father was abused jail in such situation, how the girl react? Didn't any translator to help the father in such a jail sentence? Oh, it is a little ridiculous...
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
8 Sep 09
I agree that this might also have to do with culture. In some cultures it's perfectly normal to kiss family and relatives on the lips. On the other hand, if he has touched her inappropriatly the people who saw it did a good deed reporting it. There are still too many cases of child abuse which aren't reported at all because people are scared that they might be wrong or scared by possible consequences if they personally know the person in question.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
8 Sep 09
In some countries what is normal to do at home is inappropriate. Like in Singapore when I was there chewing gum was illegal. In Eilat I could wear a bikini but over the border in Aquba I had to keep my body covered up. A couple of adults kissing their would be tolerated I am sure. Italians are romantic partners and caring to their children. The Italian man was kissing his daughter so it wasn't child abuse. He wasn't hitting her. I think eight to fifteen years in jail for showing affection to his child is silly. The police should get the facts straight. Imagine a man is 40 years old and he kisses his 14 year old daughter. That would be normal in many countries. But if he kissed a 14 girl old he wasn't related to that would be considered child abuse.
@jules67 (2788)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
My God. This kind of news is really repulsive. I do not understand why people do such things like that. They are supposed to be protectors of their innocent kids and not abuse them. Don't they know how dastardly the effect this could be on the lives of the innocent kids. Just 15 years in jail? He deserves more than that.
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
8 Sep 09
Hi krupesh, when the couple thought it is inappropriate - then u should also have mentioned the age of the girl! Well, was it something which if it was not her father she would have objected? Was it because it was her father in all probability she was confused how to get out of the situation? I think beyond a certain age a normal father would be circumspect - especially when he is outside the house - and in an alien country. Whether Italian, Indian, American, or of any other country. And Brazilians are far more open towards these aspects. If it struck them as odd, then it might be truly something out of the ordinary.
@cherrc (661)
• Philippines
8 Sep 09
hi krupesh! i hope it was like this: it should not be called an arrest but merely an invitation to inquire whether something really happened at the pool. they might as well asked the girl who is quite capable to answer questions at that age. the thing is, if we will base our conclusions on the facts like this, it would be vague. in which case, there would be a total deprivation of due process on the father. i hope they will resolve this matter with good basis. :)
• Romania
8 Sep 09
Depends where he kissed her.:)