Analysis: Chicago's loss is a blow to Obama, too
@whiteheather39 (24403)
United States
October 3, 2009 4:48am CST
Is Obama a better talker than closer, more celebrity than statesman?
Despite Obama's fabled charm and powers of persuasion, his in-person plea for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Games fell flat. It was a hugely embarrassing defeat. His adopted hometown — considered a front-runner heading into Friday's voting — didn't just lose, it took last place, shocking nearly all by getting knocked out in the first round while the remaining three contenders moved on.
The why-Chicago-lost story has many contributors, with Obama's last-minute flight to Copenhagen for an emotional appeal probably among the least of them. Regardless, he is now tied inexorably to Chicago's defeat, and that verdict isn't good.[b]
Remember how Republican John McCain tried to stoke doubts about Obama during last year's presidential campaign by calling him all flash and no pan? A bit of that is in play here, too, where some perceive Obama as arrogantly relying too much on his celebrity status and not enough on the nitty-gritty work of winning votes.[/b] For instance, some IOC members resented the fact that Obama blew into Copenhagen for just five hours, jetting back down the runway toward Washington hours before the result was even announced.Do you think this loss will hurt Obama?
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@dloveli (4366)
• United States
3 Oct 09
From the very beginning of the electoral process I said that I hoped that Obama/Clinton didnt win. It wasnt because of a democrat or republican thing. Its because I thought that if either of them won it wouldnt be because he or she was the right person for the job, it would be because it was a "first". First african american or first woman. When Obama did win I hoped that the celebrity thing would die down. To be quite honest I dont really follow politics because I honestly believe that we dont matter in the grand scheme of things. I do think that Obama was elected just because he was the first african american man to be elected president. He pays attention to the least important things. The things that are "fun or easy" if you will. I think the fact that he cant even achieve these types of things is just a preview of what's yet to come. I honestly feel that its a game to the Obama family. What to wear, a new dog, shopping at a farmers market, planting the first garden in some years, etc. These are all that is being reported on. What about the war? What about the sons and daughters of american families who have lost their lives to save ours? What about the homeless? What about healthcare? Yes I do think this loss hurt Obama. It shows he's not cut out for the job. dl
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
3 Oct 09
Excellent response! Very astute observations and I certainly agree with your points! Thank You!
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@BaziIL (47)
• Israel
3 Oct 09
In my humble opinion, this loss might hurt Obama since it proves those people who might admire his charm that his charm starts to fade away and it's time he behaved as a president and not as a rock star.
On a personal note, I don't find him neither a celebrity nor a statesman, so for me he has no charm at all.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
3 Oct 09
Your humble opinion is exactly the same as mine
I am sorry I forgot to post the link to the article I quoted from:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091003/ap_on_go_pr_wh/oly_obama_olympics_analysis
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
3 Oct 09
As far as you saying "the media is sort of trying to down play it" What else did you expect... that would have been detrimental to his image!!!
To answer your question:
Taxpayers shelled out probably $1 million or more for the president, his wife and others to fly to Copenhagen and back to woo members of the International Olympic Committee.
A 2006 congressional study pegged the cost of flying Air Force One at $56,518 an hour. The Pentagon recently said it cost $100,219 an hour to fly the huge, reconfigured Boeing 747 without Obama aboard. The Pentagon estimate included more costs for support needs, such as maintenance.
At those rates, the president's 14-hour trip to Copenhagen and back cost about $790,000 to $1.4 million.
However, presidential travel requires additional spending, especially for security personnel and equipment. Also, first lady Michelle Obama and some administration officials traveled to Copenhagen at public expense ahead of the president.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/sns-ap-oly-obama-olympics-cost,0,5541015.story
Let us not forget Michelle Obama and her buddy and chief Obama supporter Oprah Winfrey had seperate expenses when they flew earlier than Obama and the poor dears had to fly on what they are calling AIR FORCE TWO. You know that also cost the taxpayers a bundle!
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@stealthy (8181)
• United States
3 Oct 09
I think he did more harm than good. He thinks of himself as a celebrity and there he was with Opra, who is a celebrity, trying to sway the Olympic committee which consists mainly of old world aristrocrat types and they are not only not swayed by the celebrity types but are turned off by them. So the reason Chicago was last is probably because Obama and Opra were there. I'm not saying Chicago would have won but the city probably would have come in second if they hadn't gone instead of a dismal last.
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@Boffle (123)
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3 Oct 09
Obama had been put in a very invidious position. All the other bid cities had high ranking support with them in Copenhagen: Madrid had King Juan Carlos, the King of Spain, and Tokyo and Rio each had their respective countries' Prime Ministers, so there was really no way that he could avoid going. After all, just imagine what would have happened if he hadn't attended and Chicago had lost; in that case his opponents would have been claiming that by not showing up he had damaged the bid.
Having said that, though, I do think this is personally damaging for him. As you say, it's never a good idea for a politician to be associated with failures or humiliations. And, in this case particularly, he didn't show himself in a good light. He arrived at the very last minute, apparently unwilling to do the behind the scenes work that this kind of thing requires, then he made a speech that was much too self centered (talking about *his* election, why *he* and *his* family would like the games to be held in *his* city), and then he disappered before the process had finished. To top it all, his advocacy failed to have any positive effect - feeding the perception that he is liked, but not listened to.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
4 Oct 09
It's a setback but a very minor blip of a setback. The success or failure of his presidency is not going to rest on whether or not he gets the Olympics to come to Chicago and it can be argued in his favor that he personally went over there and talked up his country. We should worry more if we get a president who doesn't go to the PR wall for us.
@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
3 Oct 09
It would not be fair to hold it there just because Obama used to live there. There are many places that have been waiting for their turn. I would think to have it where it would most affect the economy in a positive way would be nice! Lots of factors have to be considered.
@Eisenherz (2908)
• Portugal
5 Oct 09
Of course this loss will hurt Obama, as it hurts any american or Chicago season in particular. Personally I'm glad he made it all the way out to make a fool out of himself and hope it's the first of the many defeats to come under his rule.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
4 Oct 09
Do I think this loss will hurt Obama? Hurt him HOW? Will it cause the Republicans in Congress to decide not to vote for health care reform? Will it make the conservative talk show hosts and other pundits stop speaking so well of him? Will it cause him to receive threats against his life or will it make some go so far as to imply he's not really an American?
That's right, those things have already happened!
I'm sorry for being a smart azz here but I couldn't resist. What I REALLY think is that for all but a very few people in the world this will be all but forgotten by as early as Monday. Sure, it may be briefly mentioned when the Olympics are being discussed on sports shows but that will be about it other than Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the usual suspects but that doesn't matter, if it wasn't Obama's "failure" to deliver the Olympics to Chicago it would be something else.
In the whole scheme of things, I really don't and didn't care one way or another if he went or if he didn't, if he'd planned it in advance or decided at the last minute to make a brief trip. However, while I know some here will disagree with me which is fine I totally believe that if he hadn't gone and the other three countries' leaders had some of those who were so glad for Obama's "failure" would instead have been angry that the U.S. hadn't gotten the games and they'd be blaming him and saying it was "embarrassing" that he'd been the only leader not to show. I can't prove I'm right and nobody else can prove me wrong but it's just my opinion.
Congrats to Rio!
Annie
@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
7 Oct 09
People who love Obama will continue to love him and will continually refused to see any fault in him even if it's blatant. People who hate him will be just the opposite. As far as the Olympics and his plea (that might not be the right term)to the committee, I personally don't think he ever had a chance, no matter what. The USA has hosted several Olympics and no country in South America ever has. It really should be their turn.
@millertime (1394)
• United States
4 Oct 09
I really don't think it will hurt him that much here in the U.S. All of his supporters will downplay it and say it means nothing and is of no consequence. The fact is, he never should have gone. It's not really the President's place to go lobby for one city. He has much more important things to worry about, like maybe the problems of the entire country. It's more the place of the mayor of Chicago to go plead on behalf of his city and not something the president should be concerning himself with.
The fact that he did go and was basically handed his hat by the Olympic Committee hurts his credibility far more on the world stage than here at home. After a humiliation like that, it might be a little harder to negotiate far more critical issues such as nuclear proliferation with the leaders of Iran or North Korea. He's hardly in a position of power at the moment as it appeared he thought he could sweep into Copenhagen and his mere presence would win the day. In response, the committee immediately eliminated Chicago. Could the rejection have been any more blatant? Time will tell if this setback will have any real effect because sooner or later he WILL be negotiating issues of major importance.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
5 Oct 09
You have some excellent points in your response. Thank you!
@artistry (4151)
• United States
4 Oct 09
...It certainly appears that you can only let everything negative come out of your mouth about Obama. I suppose for sure, you would have preferred Senator McCain and his dementia, standing in front of his supporters and saying "my fellow prisoners" at the beginning of his speech and not even realizing what he had said, than Obama. But fear not, your wishes and hopes for him to fail and be tarnished by whatever, will not prevail. Keep your eyes open my dear, the man's name means "blessed" and nothing you or those who think like you, will have any impact, there are stronger positive forces at work, than what collective, negative thoughts and words can do against him. But do know this, when negativity is spewed, it will grow in the place where it originates, and the bad vibes will hinder any prosperity. Sunshine is so much better than dark clouds and raw negativity. So carry on. It's so interesting to read the diatribe that is written in certain corners. Pitiful, truly pitiful.
@AmbiePam (93882)
• United States
4 Oct 09
I thought it was embarrassing. I didn't think Chicago would get the Olympics, but I certainly didn't think it would get eliminated in the first round. And what did they spend in tax dollars to go over there? Something like 1.2 million dollars to fly Obama and all the security over to Demark for the whole thing. I don't think it will hurt Obama much. I was really embarrassed for him. I mean it looked so bad for all the hoopla, and then splat! They got shown the door.
@biman_s (1060)
• India
4 Oct 09
It isn't a shock for me as you can't just choose a place just because it's represented by the president of USA. Rio which is chosen for the games is a far better venue when compared to Chicago. Rio is Internationally more famous for its culture and topography. Its a wonderful place to host the Olympics. I am glad it Rio and not Chicago.