I just don't deserve that kind of response
By Daddy Neil
@neildc (17239)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
October 15, 2009 7:20am CST
When you want to know exactly what is the meaning of a certain thing...
Or you want to know the exact name or term of a certain thing...
Then you expect the answer from the one that you know has the knowledge about it, as it is something in the line of his work or study.
Will you be happy to receive a common term, as if you are a child or an iliterate person?
Let's give an example here, say, a BP apparatus. If you will ask me, "have you seen my BP?" And I will response with "BP?" though I know what you are talking about. And I know you know what you should call it, because you are someone in the medical study or profession.
Will you say it's sphygmomanometer, instead of "it's BP and that's how we call it in school, so what's the problem?!" And telling it in a very high voice.
Will you let it be called in it's common name (sphygmomanometer for a BP apparatus is just an example) or will you want to know it's true name or term? Will you let other people, say your kid, to just grow-up knowing it's called like that, and not letting him know what's the right thing to call that thing?
Please share.
Happy mylotting!
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13 responses
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
15 Oct 09
hello neildc,
It's been a while since I've heard of that name during our science class back I high-school. I wasn't that familiar with scientific apparatus and still i am not familair with them. sounds like you're upset or something? i think something like that shouldn't let it bother you. but of course, they should also be taught the proper but am asking myself? unless you're a scientist, is it really necessary? any ways, it's better to teach the right term once in a while.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
15 Oct 09
me either is not a medical person or a scientist, but i don't want to be treated as an old people. remember the days people calling Close-up as Colgate, when both are toothpaste but close-up is not colgate? Vetsin is vetsin, but ajinomoto is not vetsin. Do you get it?
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@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 Oct 09
hello... you can start your advocacy now. Start teaching them to use politically correct terms and be more professional in dealing with people. Let's just be conscious about the people around us if we are talking with people of the same background we can use medical terms, legal terms but if not let's be happy and contented to use LAYMAN's term where everyone can understand what we are referring to.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
16 Oct 09
Hiya Neil.. it's been awhile. Hope you are fine. For me, I'll always tell it like it is; whether it's a mouthful. At least on the first try, I'll try to pronounce it in full and explain the meaning if I'm asked. Then after that, I'll go with the abbreviation, to make it more easier..
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
yes, it's been a while since we last got in together in a discussion and i am glad to see once again. well, i am fine so far and i hope you also do.
that's one thing i expect to hear from someone who is more knowledgeable to such a line of work. though i am not under estimating him or her, i just want to be precise in some ways. that especially if there are younger people who we think wants to know more, also.
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
15 Oct 09
There are people who do this all the time. Some of them work right here in this office with me. Its usually that they don't want to share their knowledge because they think that if they do they will lose something. Its stupid. People were not always like this and they have no qualms about taking your knowledge to use for themselves when they can.
I think its a most objectionable attitude.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
they are really stupid people and i will show them that i know more, though i can't get better than them. we also have some people in our workplace with that kind of attitude, they don't want to share their knowledge. and good thing with computers and internet, we can explore things in our own.
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 Oct 09
I understand where your sentiments are coming from because your on the same field/profession and you expect him to be professional enough in dealing with you and even with other co-workers. Please don't be so sensitive about this. I am working in a medical setting with doctors and nurses and still BP Ap is the common term for sphygmo. Don't let this petty intramurals of him affect you.
I admire you for strongly uplifitng your profession to the point of being keen about the use of terms. In this world that evolve so fast we really need to cope and by up to it including those terminologies.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
i can get what you are trying to say here, though i am not in a way in the field medicine. and for your information, i am only an electronic technician. i learned to be specific in many ways in school but we never thought to talk in a rude way. raising voice to someone will put a person and he may think he is under estimated by people who knows more of that field of profession. i think he can say that "it's how we call it, a BP Ap, but it's actually sphygmo." and in a nice way. some people tend to know the true name of one thing instead of knowing it's function.
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
16 Oct 09
You may not be in the medical profession but you're assertive enough to advocate for terminologies like that one you mentioned in your discussion.
Being rude and unprofessional is unacceptable. And what she did was really bad. Her attention must be called and she needs to learn her lesson.
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@dzimiie (32)
• Canada
15 Oct 09
I find that if you know the real therm than why use the smaller therm. Especially if someone is going to tell you with a high voice. If you learn it that way in school than people shouldn't say its called like that since a lot will get mixed up for no reason. Just because the school said that's how you must say it doesn't mean that everyone has to know the way it should be said.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
i set my phone's alarm to 7 am in the morning daily, when there is office. i work at 8am. i live very near from the office so i don't have to wake up too early for work. and besides i have motorcycle, so i have no problem commuting.
but on weekends, i do not. i want to have more time of sleep on these days when there is no office work.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Oct 09
hi neildc oh my that's the right word but how many outside of nurses, nurse's aides and doctors know that word sphygmomanometer. Would it not be simpler to just say blood pressure machine for the majority of people who post here?
Of course if you are asking for the specific name of the blood
pressure machine then you should expect to get it. But in the
interest of the vast majority of non medical people, just
talking about a blood pressure machine should not be upsetting
anyone. that is one big word to have to use a great number of times in a discussion.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
27 Oct 09
Hi Patsie. I understand what you're trying to say here. But the one that asked me if the BP machine has been returned by the last user or did I noticed about it, actually said, "did the BP is there?" So I asked him, "what BP?" And he said, "BP, that's it." So I searched for it in the internet, so that I myself could know what the real term of it. So when we met personally, I asked him politely it's real name. And what he replied to me, in the highest pitch of his voice, "I know it is sphygmomanometer, but that's how we call it by my colleagues, BP Apparatus, why do you mind about it!?!"
It's just respect that I was expecting from him since he lives with me and my wife.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
15 Oct 09
My feeling is that it's the height of bad manners to use technical jargon to people who don't understand what you're talking about. It's easy enough to translate something into terms that everyone can understand, especially if you are as knowledgeable as you claim to be. It's the person who spouted the jargon who is inadequate, Neil, not you. Don't let it worry you.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
thanks sandra. but i can't help to feel bad about it. he can't tell that he knows more than me because he studied that course and i am just a common person so i knew nothing about that. what made me angered is the way he replied, raising his voice to the highest level he can. he lost respect to the one who kept him in his house and forgets where he stands. and the thing that there are kids in the house who also absorb new terms and ideas from elder people.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
15 Oct 09
Hello neil,
yah,i fully understand what you really mean in here.As i grow up from Visayan region where people use to call things from it's brand name...KODAK (for picture taking)COKE (for softdrinks)SOY(SAUCE)for toyo"black sauce".
I think you really were upset by something my dear friend..keep your cool.
There are people who thinks very high of themselves(self conceited)they have this thinking they are the only one who knows everything.People like that irritates me too,as if treating me/or anybody dumb.I avoid people who underestimate others,they turn me off(ugh!!!)
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There are people who thinks very high of themselves(self conceited)they have this thinking they are the only one who knows everything.People like that irritates me too,as if treating me/or anybody dumb.I avoid people who underestimate others,they turn me off(ugh!!!)2 people like this
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
and the way they talk, raising their voice to others makes me mad. i just can't control my feelings that time when it wasn't the first time he did it with me. there was also a time when we came to discuss about cellphone roaming service. how can he say "my roaming sim" when he is still in the country? of course, it's still "globe or smart sim" and will only be using the roaming service if he use that out of the country. grrrr
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@koalapenguin (2707)
• Philippines
15 Oct 09
I don't really know neil.. I guess i won't make a big deal out of it.
Teaching them or letting them know what the real term would be enough and it's all up to him/her if he/shes is gonna use it. 
By the way, sphygmomanometer is really confusing *like a tongue twister. Even though i belong in the medical field, i would rather call it BP than sphygmo$*&%$..... 
It caught my tongue again!
Teaching them or letting them know what the real term would be enough and it's all up to him/her if he/shes is gonna use it.
By the way, sphygmomanometer is really confusing *like a tongue twister. Even though i belong in the medical field, i would rather call it BP than sphygmo$*&%$..... It caught my tongue again!2 people like this
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
there are some brighter kids in the house that absorb more than elder people like me. our kids are very observant especially my patrick. if he hears something new, i want to explain better than i can do and i can understand. if i have not able to understand a thing or i don't know how to explain it, i research, so i can deliver him best that he can understand. and that's how i want to always give my response to a query if i know it should be proper.
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@somethingbig (282)
• United Arab Emirates
15 Oct 09
It depends if you are talking to a medical professional you can always ask using medical terms but if you are asking somebody with a different profession you might as well always ask simple layman's term. That i think is the right way to rsponse.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
i was talking with a graduating nursing student, that's why i got disappointed to hear his answer. and of course i will not ask for it's true name to my wife who often ask things to me as she knows i know better. i even ask the same thing to another person, who is already a graduate of a care-giving course but didn't get the same way of response though he claimed he forgot about its true name.
@solared (1207)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Well me personally no, but if you tell me you want a coke, an I give you a pepsi I will assume you just wanted a soft drink.
If you ask for Pepsi I will tell you if I have it or not, but in general all soft drink is coke, so if you ask for coke you say what kind, so if someone says what kinda coke you want an you say Pepsi then they will know you want a pepsi.
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@dadoods (41)
• Philippines
16 Oct 09
hi!
IT'S QUITE OFFENSIVE BUT MAYBE THE PERSON EXPECT TOO MUCH FROM YOU THAT YOU MUST ADAPT LIKE WHAT'S IN HIS MIND.. THIS PERSON IS NOT FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES BUT ANYWAY YOU CAN TALK IN A NICE WAY THAT WOULD TURN OUT TO BE IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY THAT BOTH OF YOU COULD RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND AVOID OF DOING IT AGAIN..AS SAYING GOES.."WE CANNOT PLEASE EVERYBODY"
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
16 Oct 09
which do you mean offensive, the one that asked the true name or the one that conceals the true name (when he is the one who already know it)? i am a very flexible person but the way he resplied is what made me feel bad. i did asked someone (a graduate of another medical related course) the same question, and he frankly said he forgets the name, but never treated my question destructive.
and by the way, let me remind you that you posted something in violation of the myLot Guidelines, as stated in the DONT's: Use all-caps or excessive punctuation
you can see what i meant by reading this link: http://www.mylot.com/o/guidelines.aspx
