What would you do with the body?
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
October 18, 2009 8:48am CST
Inspired by jb's crime spree I wonder what you'd do if stuck with a dead body on your hands which needed getting rid of in pieces as removing it from the property whole may raise suspicions.
Let's hear if for your chosen method. It is not necessary to have a dead body on your hands to imagine this scenario.
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@malamar (779)
• Canada
18 Oct 09
Well, happy Sunday morning to you too thea
Okay, here goes. The FICTIONAL body has to be disposed of, hmm? First I would freeze the body, cut it into a few pieces, and run them through the wood-chipper.
Voila! Just bury the remains.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Oct 09
Happy Sunday morning to you too malamar, though it's almost evening.
I perceive problems with your method, firstly you may struggle to get the whole body into the freezer and if you did then it would be very difficult to cut into pieces whilst frozen. The wood-chipper is brillintly unique though, bravo, I have never once heard of a victim being disposed of this way.
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@malamar (779)
• Canada
18 Oct 09
Thea, I didn't come up with the idea at all, I read it in a book called The Woodchipper Murder - a true crime story. He must have had a much bigger freezer. I have a standup freezer so if I took all three shelves out, I am pretty sure I could fit in the body.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
18 Oct 09
Glad you said that, Thea, because I just had a spring clean and I'm fresh out of festering corpses at the moment. I have a very nosey neighbour, so I've had to get very good at smuggling body parts out. It's a bit annoying, really, because we have a great big skip just outside, and it's shared by quite a few people, so I could just heave in the body wholesale and it probably wouldn't come back to haunt me.
Well, as I said, we have a nosey neighbour, but we also live on the edge of the estate, and all the dog owners walk their dogs past our house. This makes corpse disposal really easy. Simply cut into joints and grate the flesh off the bones with an industrial grater (not an electric one, as we could get a power cut halfway through, plus the noise may alert the neighbours to dodgy goings-on). Then, when the next dog goes past on walkies, shout 'Fetch, Fido,' and heave the bone over the balcony. Job done, and no suspicions raised!
BTW, you do realise you have a seriously warped mind, don't you? Just asking.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Oct 09
Hi Sandra, of course I have a warped mind, have I ever denied that. I had one boyfriend years back who couldn't seem to take the hint that it was all kaput and I used to visualise smashing his brains in with the poker then burning the body, but the fireplace was a bit too small and the fire might have gone out. It's okay I'm not in a murderous mood today, just fancied a laugh.
You seem to be quite well up on this yourself, I never even heard of an industrial grater. So far it appears you have produced the one scenario I haven't come across before with the grating bit, I hadn't come across the woodchipper either but apparently that one was real and escaped my notice.
What are you going to do with the kitchen full of grated flesh though Sandra?
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
19 Oct 09
Sorry, forgot about the small detail of the grated flesh. Easy, really. I make homemade beefburgers and freeze them for when we have a community barbecue. I'm told they're the best burgers ever, although I can't verify this as I'm not Jeffrey Dahmer and I don't fancy eating my victims. That would be evil.
@Ingkingderders (3832)
• Philippines
19 Oct 09
Hmmm. While reading your discussion, several things entered in my mind., I think I have seen to many episodes of CSI. hehehe. Anyway, my preferred method would be, to chop it up, and then burn the pieces in my fireplace (assuming I have one. hehe )...
I think that would be the best way to do it, and then of course, taking the ashes and scattering them to the lake at the back of the house ( assuming there is one. lol. )
added assumption, well, it should be during the winter, cause I think neighbors would be curious why I have smoke coming out of the fireplace, when its summer, and it's like 40 degrees Celsius outside. ehehehe.
@Ingkingderders (3832)
• Philippines
19 Oct 09
Hmmm. that's a great assumption thea. lol. I'm really enjoying this assumption thing. lol.
@jb78000 (15139)
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19 Oct 09
just wrap it neatly in a binbag and leave it out for the binmen to collect. i live in an area where nobody would blink at such a thing. in fact it might even fit in a wheelie bin causing even less notice if such a thing is possible. failing that i'd need to find somebody like you who collects such things and give it as a present on the condition it was picked up. perhaps i could put it on freecycle? sorry but i am not chopping it up and feeding it to the seagulls or any messy nonsense like that.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
22 Oct 09
I would cut the body up into small meal size pieces, then buy some pigs and feed it to them over time! Pigs will eat anything, even bones! I would bury the remains frozen in some ice boxes to try to slow down the smell problem.
The only problem with this scenario for me is that I am a vegan who feels sick at the smell of meat in dog food...lol I would be a hopeless murderer!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Oct 09
Hi RawBill, not the most cunning of methods for a vegan to use pigs to dispose of the body if it's all going to make you a bit queasy. We've had a few pig scenarios already but let me be the first to congratualte you on using ice boxes, but they won't be much use when the ice melts. It is good to know though that at least 3 reponses have included reluctant and hopeless murderers, whils the rest of them are looking decidedly dodgy.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
22 Oct 09
Ha Ha...thanks Thea, it is a great idea for a discussion, very unique indeed!!
@crystaltips (219)
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18 Oct 09
I don't know what 'jb's crime spree' is? Anyway, I had a spooky friend who used to tell me she had thought about this question and her best idea was to bury the body in someone else's grave on top of the coffin. That's a bit rubbish actually as the relatives might notice the fresh earth. Hey, you could easily do it if you worked in a crematorium and shove the body in the cremating machine (I don't know the technical term) when everyone else has gone home.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Oct 09
Hi crystaltips, jb asked us to choose our crime, so I came up with a bit of murder and mutilation as it's a bit dull today and still raining. Your plan is good but you'd have to get the job before you offed the victim, and no good for me at all as they don't cremate bodies out here.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Oct 09
No I'd mail it to JB since she's on a crime spree anyway and probably knows how to dispose of it!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
18 Oct 09
This is easy, thea. Remember Deliverance? If you have pigs, pigs will eat anything. Nobody will ever know what it was they ate. It's not like they poop out a hand 2 days later lol.
Sorry for the gross disturbing visual but a good friend of mine mentioned just this scenario. I don't think it was actually the body of a person, but whatever it was was um... gotten rid of with nobody being the wiser. Pigs can't talk either, and if they investigate anything, then I'll eat a shoe.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
18 Oct 09
I don't know. I guess we will have to wait and see what EOE tells us since he got the last question about murder right.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
18 Oct 09
No but, I turkeys would eat it except for the bones. I have found that turkeys will even eat each other, as I made turkey soup the other day and the leftovers went out to the birds, I figured they would eat the carrots and potatoes leaving the turkey but, they ate it all.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
13 Nov 09
Is this the first installment of the body series, Thea? I was going through your profile, and this looks like it might be the first one. I am a little disappointed, because if I have to dispose of a body, then I want to be the one to chose whose body it is and how they were killed, because that would make it a whole lot easier to dispose of the body. I do not want to be on somebody else's "clean-up crew", because then there is far more of a chance that I will get caught.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
13 Nov 09
Hi Purple, yes this was the first of the body saga, first you had to dispose of it, then you had to look innocent for Detective snoopy, somewhere along the line you then had to kill it, and I can't recall the other part, maybe it was just a three part saga. It was definitely out of sequence though. So just think of who you've killed and then dispose of them.
Ah ha, bit of profile stalking, don't let on about my funny habits will you.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
13 Nov 09
Oh, but my crime is pretty ingenious, because I would not actually have to dispose of the body. On the contrary, I would leave it and let it be discovered on its own. That way, it would be ruled "natural causes" rather than a murder.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
14 Nov 09
Well I think that is is very impolite for somebody to leave a rotting corpse at my house. How did they get the darn thing in here anyways? Did they lure some unsuspecting bloke to my house just to kill them? I am not sure that I would want to keep this person as a friend, especially when they leave me to clean up their mess. Well, you know that I won't be making stew or burgers out of the meat, since I don't cook, so I guess I will have to come up with another way to dispose of it.
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@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
18 Oct 09
Top 3 methods - yet not always infallible:
- acid. A bathtub of acid will temporary solve the problem. Must be build outside of home in a place where after can be sealed and covered.
- concrete. Some like the basement of a house. Also works to ct it in peieces, insert them in concrete blocks then burry those blocks or even drop in some deep lake or sea.
- very carefully remove any trace can lead to you (fingerprints, hair wire and so on, then hide it in one of your enemy's basement .. attic .. car trunk .. Highly riscky method, you may leave trace of your presence ... but .. I think is worth ..
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@crystaltips (219)
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19 Oct 09
theo09, I guess you have heard of Dennis Nilsen? He is our own British version of the delightful Jeffrey Dahmer and he flushed body parts down the loo but he didn't use acid. He got caught because bits of bones and flesh were found in the pipes by Dyno Rod (British firm which clears blocked drains).
When police entered his flat the stench of rotting flesh hit them and Nilsen showed them bin bags of body bits in his wardrobe. He tried chucking innards for dogs to eat etc. It just shows how difficult it is to dispose of bodies.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
19 Oct 09
Hi crystaltips, I was there at the time, I just always mix up Dahmer with Nilsen, Dahmer was the heads in the fridge guy, but they both lured young men back. If Nilsen had only shown a bit more foresight and washed his drains out with hydrolic acid (Lamby says it dissolves the bits but not the parts) he could well still be having his bit of fun today. There's so many instances of purtird smells giving the game away.
(It appears we have a mutual interest - I responded to you somewehere else on here as well.)
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
22 Oct 09
render it in acid,pour sludge down city drains.
they'd be hard pressed to find DNA in that mix.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
18 Oct 09
Omgosh, aren't we morbid this morn, lol. suspicions or not, think i'd just call the police & the undertaker & take my chances.
@celticeagle (168478)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Oct 09
Oh, you have opened a real can of worms with this one! Haha. There have been many, many movies made on just this scenario. Also, down through history there have been several serial and other wise psychopaths who have ventured to do this very thing. Take H.H.Holmes for one. He erected a huge hotel-type house/mansion and invited women to come and stay there during the Chicago(I believe it was) World's Fair. Then he tortured and murdered them, sent them down a shute to the basement where he disected and incernerated the remains of their bodies. Then there were cases of the bodies being sent down a wood chipper as well. Also there were cases of acid being used. Oh, how about the Fried Green Tomatoes version where he put the creeps body in the barbecue? Shall I go on? All great ways of getting rid of the body. I couldn't chose my favorite if I tried.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
23 Oct 09
Hi Celticeagle, indeed this was inspired more by real life killers and books rather than films, it's fascinating how these people were caught and that so many did not learn anything from previous methods used, quite a few caught by simply failing to pay adequate attention to the drain situation and the subsequent stench. All the methods you speak of here have been already given, I must say the woodchipper one was a new one on me.
The winner without a doubt though was the totally original use of an industrial meat grinder before turning the victim into kebabs.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
20 Oct 09
Hi JodiLynn, a good plan in theory but are you sure that lime can dissolve all body parts, I wonder as hydrocic acid doesn't get rid of the gall bladder and someone has raised the problem of lime not being effective in the case of Dr Crippen. You'll have to see what happens when Detective Snoopy arrives in 'the body PART 2)That was meant to be an evil laugh by the way.