To catch a thief
By PeacefulWmn9
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
United States
October 22, 2009 9:33pm CST
I think that was originally a book or a movie or both, but to what extreme would you go to catch a thief...say someone who stole your purse or wallet?
You'd not believe the elderly here in the US who chase these boogers down or beat the devil out of them to retrieve their belongings.
Would you chase the thief? If he/she turned left, right, or corner wise, would you continue on four blocks? Eight? If the thief tripped, would you give said thief a kick? A boxing to the ears?
If the thief escaped, would you play detective and track him?
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19 responses
@asweetie (1187)
• India
23 Oct 09
hi,
i am not a lady of violence and i wont run after him but would make a noise and in India if you make a noise and crowd see the theif then they would definitely give him a chase and if they catch him then god save him. I know once i was travelling in local train in Mumbai and someone caught a pick pocket there and first crowd gave him a big beating then threw him out of moving train.. it is horrible but it is many years now and i have heard now that this happened few times and now no one dares to steal anything and local train in Mumbai is life line of city and even businessman travel in it carring lacks of ruppes in breif case ( 1 lack = 100,000) so it has become safe. i would at most inform police.
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@asweetie (1187)
• India
26 Oct 09
yes they do so in Mumbai local train.. no police or anything.. simply they wait for train to come above the sea and then throw him in sea.. this is bad but it frightens living day lights outs of anyone who would want to pick pocket or steal.. and no one have faith in police because you hand over the theif to police and then u find he paid policeman some money and no case on him.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hello Asweetie. I'm not a proponent of violence, either, but I would try to get my bag back. Like you, though, a good scream to bring attention to it all seems the wisest route to take. It alerts others, yes? They can come to your aid.
Oh wow! They beat and throw thieves from moving trains??? I should think, yes, that would definitely make one think twice before robbing anyone on a train!
So much violence in today's world, though, that something needs to address it.
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
26 Oct 09
At least if a thief is thrown into the sea, if he can swim he should be fine. Something needs to deter such people. I imagine that might just do it lol.
Karen
@haiershen (1080)
• China
23 Oct 09
interesting topic.if my wallet or cash was stole by a thief,i'm not sure will risk my life in exchange of the lost things.two weeks ago, those thing was meet by a colleague,she is only less than twenty years old.every weekend,she used to english corner by bus,one saturday,when she was on bus a man who was standing behind her.when the bus stoped at one station,the man suddenly was steal her wallent and running out off the bus quickly,she was shocked and a few minuter later she was running behind the thief,it was lucky,the thief returned back the wallet and said "sorry" to her.we are shocked and it is very hard to believed it when she talked his experience to us,she said that it is because of all of the money which she had own were in the wallet,if stoled. she will have no money go back home.i am not sure if i meet what i would be.good luck and have a nice day.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hello Haiershen, and thank you!
I agree you should never risk your very life to take back a stolen possession, but the stories here in the US of even the elderly "fighting" a thief all involved thieves without weapons. The hope is they'd have all just let it go had the thief been armed, and sought police help once the thief had run away!
Your colleague was a brave young woman, and I'm glad she got her wallet and money back, but even more glad that she wasn't hurt in the process.
It seems that theft always rises during the most difficult of financial times, but then so do the number of people that will chase down a thief to reclaim their money. Tight times increase both actions!
Thank you for your comment here
Karen
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
24 Oct 09
HI Karan!
I would not catch a thief, if I am in my city. Because I know it is quite difficult to catch a thief and even if I get hold of him, he may attach or even stab me. Therefore, in the present circumstances, I would let him go with my wallet, my life is more important than my wallet.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
26 Oct 09
Hi Karen~
My weekend was fine.. It is indeed wise to save ourself, our life is precious than money.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
26 Oct 09
I agree, life is more precious than any amount of money...and so are love and faith.
I am glad you enjoyed the weekend and always appreciate your responses :)
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Hi Deepak :) I think in the present circumstances as you've described, you would indeed be wise to let the thief go and get lost in the crowd. No theft is worth one risking life and limb!
I hope you've had a nice weekend.
Karen
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
23 Oct 09
i SURE WOULD CHASE THE BOOGER. THE WAY I GET AROUND NOW I'M NOT LIKELY TO CATCH HIM BUT IF I DID I'D USE MY WALKING STICK ON HIM. cAN'T U JUST PICTURE THAT, LOL.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
LOL, Jo. I can indeed picture that! Several elderly people in a larger city near me have done exactly that...thwarted a would-be thief with their walking stick!!
We all value our money, especially in this economy. We need it to survive! So thieves these days are far more apt to encounter resistence that perhaps in prior years.
Thank you for the belly laugh, my friend!
Karen
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Well, good for them, go seniors!!I would sure give it a whirl. i'm glad u got a belly laugh out of me. I have done my good deed for the day & can go back to being my ol' mean self. Always good to hear from u. Hope ur weekend is a great one.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Thank you sweetie, and I hope your weekend is great, too!
And yes, go seniors! As one of my daughters puts it: Mom, the older I get, the bolder I get!
Hugs,
Karen
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@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
4 Dec 09
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 JI,
Everything depends upon situation and comparison with me. Being Old Lady, I may only stand at place and cry to attarct the public, but I did chase when I was very young a college student. Further it all depends upon theft item. Was it taht important.Togive you example, money may not be so important in front of Jwellary, and further, some important documents/papers may carry more weightage than jwellary, at last a small antique piece or some rememberence may carry maximum urge to etrieve the item. But I would think twice all these points and chase.
May God bless You and have great time.
@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
4 Dec 09
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 JI,
So nice to have favourable comments. May God bless You and ave a great time .
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
4 Dec 09
Hello my friend.
I do agree that we must quickly evaluate all before chasing a thief. Nothing, of course, is so important as to risk our very lives, but yes, some things matter enough to give chase! Like you, these days, I would shout for help rather than try to run down a thief, but like you, in my younger days, depending on the value of that which was stolen, I would indeed have given chase.
Thank you and God bless you.
Karen
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@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
4 Dec 09
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 JI,
So nice of you again and thanks for BR. I only thought it should be worthwhile to chase and exert withot risking life, which is precious than anything else for anyone. May God bless You and ave a great time .
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
23 Oct 09
I will not risk my life to chasing and fighting with thieves. I had an experience two years ago---while i was walking home with KFC bag on my right had, three teenagers dragged my KFC bag and ran. I was so shocked then and was not able to utter any words. I just let them ran and continued walking as if nothing happened. Then i pray and asked for strength because i was so frightened then and angry...they took my dinner and that time i was so hungry from work. It happened in the US.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
That was bad, for someone to steal your dinner and run. I do believe these things so shock us, that we either stand mute and unable to move for a bit, or we act on instinct and take up chase.
I'm glad you were unharmed, even though the dinner was gone!
And yes, crime is rampant here in the US, even moreso when the economy is so tight.
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Milk is very soothing! You handled the situation well, and I'm glad no harm came to you :)
karen
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
24 Oct 09
I really felt bad then but what is important is they did not do any harm to me. When i got home, I just drank milk and called my co-workers and shared what happened.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
25 Oct 09
You know what the sad thing is about the criminal system my dear friend? Is that if you did confront the thief and hurt him in any way it could be YOU that gets prosecuted and the thief, and this is where I get so angry could actually SUE you! For hurting them! It's damn ridiculous. Although having said that I am starting self defence lessons so if anyone does pick on me I'll have the confidence and the wherewithal to be able to strike back, but if I attack them? It's my word against theirs and then how do you draw a line between an attack and self defence? The law as usual is a mockery so even if a thief stole your wallet and you chased after them and knocked them down it could be YOU arrested and not them. Crazy!
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
25 Oct 09
I had read of such appalling things, and recently! It is a skewed system, at best...beyond my own understanding.
Hm, I guess I will have to rethink giving chase if robbed :-o
Thank you for the reminder of how awry things can go, Wolfie.
Karen
@tarachand (3895)
• India
23 Oct 09
It all depends upon the emotional and the monetary value of the possessions that have been filched, and also my own mood and frame of mind, the difference between my physical condition and that of the thief, at that point of time. Generally it is easier to catch the person in the act or just after the act. If too much time has gone by, it is generally difficult, nay impossible to catch the thief. The cops are generally so bogged down with many other cases that they generally don't bother about theft cases unless the victim is a well known and well connected person, or the thief is caught by accident.
I have seen thieves being badly beaten up, and there are sometimes cases of lynchings too in some of the more backward areas, or where the public knows that the thief would either get off because of police complicity or due to the slow course of action of the judiciary system.
I have personally caught a person (a van driver) stealing Industrial Oxygen Gas Cylinders (used to cut and weld metals) from my company that I once owned, my employees started to beat him up, but I stopped them and was going to hand him over to the police when the owner of the van (whom I had called up) turned up and requested me no to do that and assured me that he would personally see to it that man ended up in jail if he ever repeated the act.
@tarachand (3895)
• India
24 Oct 09
(1) The thief was drunk. (2) My employees could have beaten him up badly - I don't like taking the law into my own hands - the premises were mine and if something happened to the man, I would be in a worse mess (3) Human life is too precious to be wasted - the Indian judicial system is sometimes so bad that under-trials (people who have not been judged by the courts) languish for years on an end sometimes without even the most preliminary hearing to establish possibility guilt for the matter to go on trial. The courts are bogged down with too many cases and too few judges. (4)The man was in his mid to late thirties and I didn't want his children, his family to suffer the societal stigma of association with a thief or because of the lack of a father during their formative years, at least not because of anything initiated by me, especially after the van owners assurance.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hello Tara...you make a good point. It is wise to decide if the worth of whatever was stolen is worth the chase to get it back. And many other things that you've mentioned DO play a big role in whether or not we can give chase.
The cops do have trouble most of the time recovering property stolen from those in the streets...so little to on, really, and so many other things, bigger things, on the police agenda.
Your experience at your company is unique...you as the owner stopping the beating, and then the van owner saying to let it go.
Thank you for sharing these things...I always learn something new here.
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
25 Oct 09
I admire your compassion! Not all criminals are bad, but some are desperate. And not all crimes are equal...this would not have merited the family's loss or the man being imprisoned for years on end waiting just to come to trial.
karen
@jpso138 (7851)
• Philippines
24 Oct 09
Here in our country its quite dangerous to chase a thief. We call them snatchers and usually they have back up. You might end up getting hurt or worst get killed. There were many incidents of people getting shot just merely because they did not give up their cell phone or wallet or bag. I would not risk it. So what I do, Is I always secure my things and bring only those that I need when I go out on places that I am not sure is safe.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Hi Jpso. Yes, not all criminals are benign! There are definetly dangers in chasing down someone huge or someone who is armed. The loss of property is not worth risking one's life.
Your method of moving lightly is a good one.
Karen
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Oct 09
hi peacefulwmn9 A few years ago I was shopping at The Village a large shopping mall. I needed to use the ladies room so went into an empty stall and as usual hung my handbag,really a shoulderbag,a big one, on the hook on the back of the door so it would be off the floor.Well I was just adjusting my skirt when a hand snaked over the rim of the door and began to tug at my handbag.the loops caught and the woman thief could not quite get it to pull free so i grabbed it and yanked open the door, throwing her against a sink . another lady saw her trying to steal my shoulder bag, and she grabbed her arm, and yelled for security, a big husky negro lady in uniform strode in and yelled, drop it nettie,gotcha this time. She handed it to me and said,thank you for grabbing her, and thank you maam as she turned to the other shopper who had helped me. wow , I got my shoulder bag back. I had made up my mind that woman whoever she was was not going to get my hard earned money no way jose.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
You go, Hatley!! By goodness, I'm glad you put up a fight, and bravo for the lady that helped and to the security guard for acting quickly to round up this "bathroom" buglar!!
You're absolutely right. We work to hard for our money and need it for basic expenses...food and shelter, anyone?? Meds or transportation?? No one would get off scott free with my bag either!
My hat's off to you, dear :))
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
She WAS quick to act, yes Yvon? A very fiesty one, our Hatley :))
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
24 Oct 09
No, I imagine you won't...but better to lose your stuff than risk your life!
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hi Pat...I cannot picture you as a total coward! It does fit the you I've come to know online!
Whatever little we have is precious enough in this economy, but not worth anyone's life or limbs.
Karen
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
26 Oct 09
If the thief caught me on the right day and I thought I could catch him and beat him with my bag you better believe it! Some people play detective to catch their identity theives.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
26 Oct 09
That's the spirit! Identity theft...next to kidnapping, I can think or few kinds of theft that would cause more agony!
Karen
@starsailover (7829)
• Mexico
23 Oct 09
Hi Peaceful Wmn: i think it's very difficult to have that kind of courage, i won't do it because i respect my life over my personal goods and even if would feel frustrated i'll let the job to the police. It's better to not play a role that you're not used to play. Even with that i'll else mention that my eldest brother would catch the thief because he's stronger than me, he loves to play the Terminator role XD and he doesn't like these kind of people. Lol. XD
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@goldfish27 (22)
• China
23 Oct 09
I never met a thief that stole my wallet or anything.And i only seen a thief stole somebody`s wallet in the movie or books.i think if some one stole my wallet and i find it ,i will not stop chase the thief until i get my wallet back.if i can not catch the thief i will call the police,though i do not know how they will do and really they can catch the thief .if the thief stole one and no body chase or catch ,he will stole another and any more .this is not a good thing for our society and every one should stop this.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
23 Oct 09
Hi Karen, interesting idea here. I really don't know what I'd do as in theory it would be enough to incite me to anger but I have never once used physical violence and am too small to take anyone on so might as well be realistic here. I would definitely scream for assistance and an angry mob of Greeks would soon be in hot pursuit as that kind of thing just isn't tolerated here. I doubt that escape could happen amidst this nosey lot.
Actually it has happened to me, my friend and I took a long weekend break to Paris and were strolling along Montmarte long after midnight in the company of a delicious French man we'd met, quick as lighenting my bag strap was cut off and I hadn't even realised before the French man was off in hot pursuit but didn't manage to catch the thief, apparently a regular going on in that area by professional thieves. He did however telephone the French police as a report was necessary for the insurance company.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hello Thea. I'm beginning to love the things I'm learning about Greece from you! I'm glad that have no tolerance for a thief grabbing a lady's bag.
Ugh, yes...when you're small, fighting back could backfire drastically. I would also go with your screaming for help technique.
Ack! Bravo for the Frenchman lending you a hand! I'm sorry the thief made off with your bag. But...I'm glad he didn't attack you. These days, it seems wise to walk in pairs or groups when out, and never alone!
Karen
@jugsjugs (12967)
•
23 Oct 09
In the past i have chased someone for trying to cause damage to someone elses van,i do not know if they were going to try to steal the van,but i did chase them and i was in a night shirt at the time,perhaps that was what scared them a woman with not much on.lol.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
LOL, and bless your heart. I can just picture you now, taking up chase in only your nightshirt!! Perhaps the criminal DID think you a bit of a mad woman and got frightened! LOL
That story made my day, so thank you!
Karen
@dekada80 (388)
• Philippines
23 Oct 09
I don't think I will take the chance, specially lot's of news today saying that robbers, snatchers or pickpocketers usually doesn't works alone and works as a group, you don't want to get clobbered or much worst be killed. Just report it to the nearest police station and let them do the job. Now, chasing and catching these thieves then giving them some karate blows or a hard clothesline usually works only in the movies but in real life, I don't think so, these crooks won't give you a chance, so don't take the risk, cheers!
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@wjtexjonny (16)
• China
23 Oct 09
wow,It's really fantastic experience if I can catch him.Now I need to work out often and waiting for the arrival of time.you know,if you are not stronger than him,it's a very dangerous thing.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Hello Jonny. Actually, working out every day to build strength is a great idea. Many times, it is recommended that people, even children, take self-defense classes or learn a martial art as a way to know how to protect themselves from a criminal.
Of course, when a criminal is armed, you do nothing but him takes what he wants. Too dangerous to fight someone armed!
Thank you for responding :) And welcome to MyLot!
Karen