Man Arrested for DWI in New Mexico - He was sleeping in his car!
By lelin1123
@lelin1123 (15594)
Puerto Rico
November 21, 2009 1:43am CST
A man who had a few drinks at an American Legion decided to sleep it off in his car instead of driving. He put the keys under the driver seat. He then climbed into the back of his car to sleep it off. He was going to drive home in the morning. The cops woke him up about two hours later, tested him with a breath analyzer and he tested positive. He was arrested for DWI. Not driving but sleeping in his car. To me he did the right thing by not driving but he was still arrested. This is totally ridiulous. The law says because he had the keys in the car nothing was preventing him from driving the car. If he had given the keys to someone to hold I guess he wouldn't have been arrested. I think the cops were having a slow night and were bored personally. For doing the right thing he still got screwed. The judge has now convicted him and I believe his lawyer is going to appeal the case. Something is wrong with this law in my opinion. What do you think mylotters?
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
He was not on the road he was in the parking lot of the American Legion sleeping in the back seat of his car. He was not on the road driving! Thanks for the response.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
No problem I just needed to clarify the circumstances. Have a great weekend!
@owlwings (43907)
• Cambridge, England
21 Nov 09
This is quite standard. If you have the keys in your possession, then you are technically in control of the vehicle. The law is not wrong, it is people's perception of it that is at fault. In Britain it is called "Drunk in charge" but it is basically the same law.
The man did the 'right thing' in that he did not drive but he did not understand that having the means to drive a vehicle whilst under the influence is the offence. 'A few drinks' can be very misleading. He might have woken sometime in the morning and have decided that he was sober enough to drive when, in fact, he could well have been still over the limit. The police were correct in charging him as they daid.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
I think its crazy because this law will keep people from staying put knowing they could still get in trouble. They will most likely proceed to try and drive home. Its like your damned if you do and damn if you don't. Makes no sense at all to me!
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
22 Nov 09
This is really stupid. How can they get him for DWI when the car was not moving. Driving means driving. Someone had too much time on their hands, they must not have alot of crime that people need protected from.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
23 Nov 09
Thank you I agree totally and its really ridiulous what this man is going thru. I'm really so upset over this and I don't even know him. I just feel so bad for him. Thanks for responding.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
24 Nov 09
With budgets as tight as they are a DWI is a nice hefty fine and more money for the city or state. Many states have started strictly enforcing traffic laws for more income. NYC even laid off police officers and hired more meter maids to collect more in parking fines. It is not about right or wrong it is about getting more money.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
24 Nov 09
Yes I understand where you are coming from, however, the man was not driving he was sleeping in the back of the car on a pillow with his keys under the drivers seat. The car was not in motion because the man knew he couldn't drive home. Thanks for responding.
@williamjisir (22819)
• China
22 Nov 09
Hello lelin. I agree with you that it is ridiculous to arrest this man since he was not driving after drinking, but sleeping in his own car. It is unfair of the cop to this man. I wish his lawyer would help appeal this case and win it.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
I hope too that is what happens. Its totally unfair to him after all he knew he couldn't drive the call and as far as I'm concerned he did the right thing. How many people on a Friday and Saturday think nothing after having drinks at dinner or a bar and just get in their car and drive away. Thanks for your response.
@amybrezik (2118)
• United States
22 Nov 09
I absolutely agree with you. I was married to a man who grew up in a family of cops, and you don't want to be around a bored one. They will look for anything. I see the point that because his keys were with him nothing was stopping him from operating the vehicle, however, he absolutley did the right thing. If the cops had to wake him up, he obviously wasn't going anywhere, and should have been given credit for trying to do the right thing. I'm sure it is standard as one mylotter said, however, if the cops needed to be out looking for someone who was actually endangering people, and not just out looking for someoene to bring in.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
I agree like I said earlier if they were really good cops they should have drove him home and he could pick up his car the next day. It was cold outside. If it was cops from the 50's or 60's they would have been nice enough to do that. Thats when the cops new everyone in their precient. Though days are long gone and the cop only cares about the quoto they make every month. Thanks for the response.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
21 Nov 09
It is wrong what they did
Here in the UK it is against the law to be in your Car when you have had a few so it would have happened here to
Whether you where driving or not makes no Difference if you are found in the Drivers Seat they will do you for Drinking and Driving which I think is wrong, specially when they can see you are asleep and are not going to drive
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
Its a stupid law and I just can't believe its enforced. Thanks for responding.
@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
22 Nov 09
This is tricky. If the police didn't take him away to jail, they were taking a chance that he wouldn't decide to get up and drive off still drunk. Just because he SAYS he wasn't going to drive doesn't MEAN that he wasn't going to. Do you see what I'm saying? If they didn't arrest him, he could have decided to leave and went and killed himself driving or someone else driving which in turn, the cops would have been at fault for letting him go because the guy promised he wasn't going to drive. It doesn't work that way. I feel they made the right choice.
Soooo, I do think maybe they could have given him a lighter ticket for sleeping in the car intoxicated, or trespassing, but not a DWI, as he didn't drive. Maybe he's had other tickets for the same thing?
Are you going to yell at me?, lol!
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
If the guy was in the front seat with the keys in the ingition yes I could see it. Not if the keys are under the drivers seat and he is in the back laying down on a pillow. 99% of people I have spoken to or responded to this discussion says it is crazy that he shouldn't have been arrested. In fact what would have been nice in my opinion is if the police had driven him home and then he could pick up the car the next day. That would have been a good thing for the police to do for a person in need. No they have to throw their authority and a stupid law around and make a big thing out of this. Then the cops wonder why law abiding citizens can't stand them. Thanks for the response.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Sounds bogus to me! I would hope that he would of maybe told the American Legion barkeep that's what his intentions were. Ya never know if they called to say this car is just sitting here for hours come check it out or whatever. I dunno, I just don't think he should be charged, the vehicle wasn't moving he knew better. I hope he can get them to drop the charges and the cops can go back to chill'n in the doughnut shops when they met todays ticket quota.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
22 Nov 09
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
21 Nov 09
HOW RIDICULOUS!! That sounds like something the cops around here would do.
. I'm like u sounds like they were having a slow night & wanted to show off. The mad should have been given a medal since he had enough sense to know he didn't need to be driving. I hope he wins his appeal & get them for false arrest.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
I hope so too. He was on TV last night in tears saying he was not a criminal. He did the right thing to me. Thanks for responding.
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
No it had nothing to do with homelessness. It had to do with a cop or two being big time #$%holes. Thanks for responding.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I agree with you! The gentleman did the right thing, and just by being responsible, the cops should have had a bit of compassion and common sense. Instead of arresting him because he still held the keys to the car, they should've allowed him to make a phone call for someone to pick him up, and leave the car there until the next day.
In this case, the cops were jerks, as most of them are.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
I agree, yes most cops are jerks. This was a stupid move on them once more. Just throwing their authority around once more. Thanks for responding.
@Wilbet28 (97)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I agree with you that it was silly for them to arrest him for Driving While Impaired when he wasn't even driving. Although I'm certainly opposed to drunk driving, it seems that this man did the right thing by going to sleep instead of driving, and he should not have been convicted of DWI. I hope his lawyer appeals the case.
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
I too am totally against drinking and driving but in this case he did the right thing but he is still getting persecuted for it. It makes me so mad. Thanks for responding.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
21 Nov 09
...Hi lelin1123. If the law has been written that if the keys are in the car, not in the ignition, but in the car, and he was asleep, then I would guess they have him breaking the law. If not I would not only appeal, I would take a lie detector test, telling my story, and then I would sue. The man did the right thing, they say don't drive while drinking, then they arrest him if he is not driving. Where is the logic in this? The law needs to be reviewed, and changed to make sense. Take care.
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
Exactly the law needs to be changed as far as I can see. What was he suppose to do. He knew he couldn't drive. Something is definitely wrong with this law. Thanks for responding.
@derek_a (10873)
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22 Nov 09
I think this is very unfair as the man was acting with responsibility. However, there are laws in many countries that state that if a person is in possession of his vehicle and his keys, he is in charge of it, whether or not he drives it. The police could claim that the intent was there to drive it, or he had already been driving it under the influence - it seems that they don't have to prove it. It is not a good idea to sleep in the car if you have had too much to drink but find somewhere else to sleep.
- Derek
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@skysuccess (8857)
• Singapore
2 Dec 09
lelin1123,
I think this is where the law differing from State to State and this case in New Mexico is an eye opener where their observance is on a much higher (warped) degree. The site DUI attorney dot com gave me a clearer and scarier picure: [i]However, New Mexico's DWI laws clearly state a person may be charged if he or she is "in control of" the vehicle, not necessarily driving it. This is defined as a person who is in the driver's seat and has access to the keys.
Some drivers, however, have even been arrested under this provision for sleeping in the passenger seat or back seat. The safest thing to do is give your keys to someone else, such as the bar or restaurant owner, until the next morning if you cannot drive home.[/i]
I understand how you feel but I think some States just have different interpretations and protocols. Like other States, might require the DWI driver to be on the driver's seat with the ignition on or tested with an intoxicated level on the breath analyzer, in order for the party to be arrested and charged. Yet, I understand in some other States, the driver will be placed in a cell to ensure that he does not drive and release him once he is sober enough to drive again.
These law can become quite a pain when the interpretation goes a lot further and abandons civil minded logic. This is an unfortunate case, I do hope that this man will be able to win his appeal and till then, you will not find me sleeping in my car whilst in stupor with my keys around.
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. It is a real eye opener for me and enforce my belief that there are different interpretations on the law from different States. That, I will need to make sure to check them, prior my arrival and visit.
All the best and compliments of the season.
Ref: http://www.duiattorney.com/news/6230-non-driver-charged-with-new-mexico-dwi
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
2 Dec 09
Thank you for your indepth response and thank you for clarifying. I too hope he gets an appeal. I guess people need to understand the law in the state that they live or plan to move to or are visiting. Have a great day!
@Pingfanderen11 (222)
• China
21 Nov 09
though i feel the guy is poor,i agree with the cops ,now the traffic accidents
are more and more serious,coz if in his car there are others,they will be danger.
so in order to avoid these,cops should arrest him
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@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
21 Nov 09
The guy was not driving the car he had a few drinks in the American Legion. His car was in the parking lot of the AL. He got in the back seat and went to sleep and said he would sleep it off. No one was in danger. If he had decided to drive home he would have put himself and someone else in danger. He did the right thing and slept in the back seat in my opinion and still got in trouble for nothing.
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