Do you think 'Merry Christmas' has seen its last days?
By phoenix1344
@phoenix1344 (698)
United States
November 24, 2009 11:57am CST
I just recently found out about how the ACLU is trying to get rid of 'Christmas' and start saying 'Holidays' instead. Okay, well first off, I am not christian at all but I love Christmas. I love the idea of the holidays, coming together, christmas lights, the whole bit! I'm not saying everyone has to celebrate Christmas and of course not everyone does. That is what Hannuka and Kwanza is for, along with other Holiday celebrations.
But I don't hear anyone protesting about getting rid of their holiday rights? I think Christmas should not be swept under the carpet and especially not for those that truly believe in it! Sure, happy holidays is fine too. But I do not think we should replace 'Merry Christmas' for 'Happy Holidays'.
I've never heard of 'Merry Christmas' offending anyone unless they were an extreme leftist. Obviously for those that don't celebrate Christmas, we should make a point to say 'Happy Holidays' for their sake. But why should 'Merry Christmas' be squashed if other religious celebrations are not??
Okay, leave your opinions below! Do you think we should get rid of 'Merry Christmas'??
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10 responses
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
24 Nov 09
I don't think I could agree with you more.
I'm not a Christian and still I celebrate Christmas. In my family, even though they were actually of a religious ilk, we grew up leaving cookies out for Santa, hanging stockings on the door (didn't have a fireplace lol), building snowmen, and singing Christmas songs. We didn't drink the blood of Jesus, reenact manger scenes, try to recruit people to Christianity or anything else that would come across as religious.
"Christmas" has morphed into something that can be enjoyed by people who aren't celebrating the birth of Christ. Christmas doesn't exclude anyone.
Why the need for change now? And, as you asked, why only the attack on Christmas!? (Well, of course, it's obvious: you can't go after anyone but white Christians and their 'silly' traditions -- all else are victims.)
So someone doesn't celebrate Christmas. So what? I'm not offended by anyone else's holidays. They can celebrate what they want and call them what they want. This is just BS. It's an ongoing attack on Christians -- atheists are petrified that any religious symbol will rub off on people and more of their fictionalized tales of cruelty will come back to roost.
I say no, because of what would come in the future.
Look, ACLU, not ALL traditions are bad things just because the cruel, white slaveowners and native America killers were mostly religious (this is up for debate, however; but for the sake of argument...).
You don't have to take away "Merry Christmas" and replace it with anything. What's next? We already see that "In God we Trust" being petitioned for removal from its monetary note home. I guess churces falling is the ultimate goal. Riding down the street and passing a church is sooooo traumatic to people. Yet two guys lip-locked, one in scantily clad woman's clothing, in public view is something we're all supposed to shut up and accept.
I let everyone go their own way. They should let people who want to keep Christmas keep Christmas. It's not hurting anyone.
I've said this before: I think it's the wrong approach to life when you spend it trying to shape and mold your country to fit around you. That's not being tolerant. That's being incredibly selfish. Now, if Christmas was actually hurting someone, I'd have a different opinion on it. But it's not. It's just another way to be "progressive." Another instance of the far-left loathing the fact that white Christians were around before and are still around now.
To the nut-jobs that want Christmas to be gone for sole spite, Christians are the mythical beasts that have ruined the world, and the only way to set it right is to get rid of them and start anew (or bring back the 60s -- I can't figure out wtf they want lol).
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@phoenix1344 (698)
• United States
24 Nov 09
Wow, this was incredible. I agreed with every word you had to say. thank you so much for responding :)
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
24 Nov 09
I'm just echoing your thoughts and ranting a bit on them!
I actually get pretty worked up over the nerve of some people trying to completely change the landscape just because they happen to take offense of something. The overwhelming minority having carte blanche over the majority is a freaky thing.
Nothing gets my rant motor going like special interest and their petty grievances turning into full-blown wars against anything "traditional."
Save Christmas!
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
24 Nov 09
Hi materfish,
Christmas should be a time of People getting together regardless of what they believe in or how they live.
If for just one Day People would forget everything and relax and enjoy that Day with others surely it´s worth a try.
Might take a long long time for this to happen but one day it will.
December the 25th when everyone gets to remember their Family and remembers to say Hello to their Neighbours this is what I would like to see at Christmas.
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
24 Nov 09
The ACLU may stop businesses from using Merry Christmas in their stores. They CANNOT stop ME from wishing my friends a Merry Christmas. At work, I have a pretty good idea what religious affiliation my customers have. I wish Merry Christmas to the Christians, Happy Hanukkah to the Jews & Happy Holidays to the others. As a Christian, I'm offended by those wishing to take my holiday away from me. However, they CANNOT take away what's in my heart!!! You don't celebrate Christmas as Christmas is the time to celebrate the birth of Christ!!! As a nonchristian, I doubt that you celebrate the birth of Christ. The friends I invite to my home over the Christian Holiday feel the same as I do. We celebrate the birth of Christ & exchange small gifts in honor of his birth!!! I may not be able to stop the ACLU, but they also cannot stop me!!! I've had several nonchristian customers request that I use Merry Christmas with them in honor of my Christian beliefs. In my mind, that is the true spirit of giving!!!
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@BambooPanda13 (867)
• United States
24 Nov 09
Why do you people act like Merry Christmas is being banned? Open your eyes, and open your mind and think for a second. Happy Holidays is including everyone who celebrates a winter holiday. On your house and cards or whatever you can put Merry Christmas all you want, you can wish everyone a Merry Christmas, even those people who don't celebrate it won't punch you or anything and I am sure they realize you are just wishing them a happy holiday season. But when it comes to a place where people of all cultures and religions go, you can't really say it is fair to only go with one religious holiday's greeting. No one is saying you HAVE to change what you say, is saying Happy Holidays more inclusive? Yes, but is it something you HAVE to do? No. So stop griping about a greeting, be happy that they are including many more people into the winter holiday season, and be happy they are still doing anything at all.
@phoenix1344 (698)
• United States
24 Nov 09
Hi LadyMarissa,
Thank you so much for responding! And I respect the fact you are on my side in keeping the 'Merry Christmas' tradition around. As for whether I celebrate Christmas, I believe I do. I know I don't celebrate the version you do but I do celebrate the general Christmas. Which involves family coming together, a Christmas tree, Christmas lights, and everything else.
To you I am sure those things seem materialistic but to me it is downright magical. So we both celebrate Christmas for different reasons but we both celebrate it.
Thanks agains for your response :)
@smacksman (6053)
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25 Nov 09
Thankfully I don't know what ACLU stands for but from what they appear to want to achieve does the A and the L stand for 'backside licking' by any chance? haha
I really wish that the offended minorities (why do they always have to hide behind such a general term - why don't they have the guts to say who they actually are!) anyway, I digress, I wish that they would accept that Christmas is the time for Peace and Goodwill to All Man.
If they have a similar day in their religion/sect/covern then I would be happy to join them, that is, if they would let me in!
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
25 Nov 09
Hi phoenix, I agree with you, we should not allow anyone to take away "Merry Christmas". I love wishing my friends a Merry Christmas but I try not to offend others and for those who don't celebrate Christmas, I wish them happy holidays. For me there is nothing like those old songs and stories that speak of the spirit of giving. Christmas Day is a day set aside to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ, so how can you call it something else? Let people celebrate how they wish and believe as they wish, but please leave Christmas alone. Blessings.
@JennyMarie (366)
• United States
24 Nov 09
The main reason for getting rid of Merry Christmas is because it offends people. What about us who are offended by Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
24 Nov 09
"What about us who are offended by Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas."
You start the movement and I'll sign right up!
Happy Holidays offends me, ACLU. Do something!
@JennyMarie (366)
• United States
24 Nov 09
Ok I guess I need to find out where we need to go to to petition the ACLU to take up our cause since we are offended by Happy Holidays
@BambooPanda13 (867)
• United States
24 Nov 09
Can you explain how you are offended by Happy Holidays since it includes many other holidays of the winter instead of just one? Or how about they just don't put up anything at all!
@BambooPanda13 (867)
• United States
24 Nov 09
I am not Christian either, I celebrate winter solstice, Yule, in December, but I was raised doing Christmas and all of my family does Christmas whether we believe in christ or not. I think if you are going to say something to a stranger saying "holidays" is more appropriate since you really don't know what they celebrate and you can include everyone. I don't get offended if someone says Merry Christmas to me, but others might since they have never celebrated Christmas nor believe in what it stands for and just feel more comfortable not being wished it. So I think by saying holidays ACLU is just trying to include everyone and not leave anyone out. And if you don't celebrate any holidays then I guess you will be left out and you'll just have to take it as a sort of "Happy winter time!" I don't think Christmas is being swept under any rugs, it is just that by changing it to Holidays you can include every holiday of the December month. Places might not want to put up 3-4 different signs for the same month, so by saying Holiday, it includes whatever holiday you happen to celebrate if any. I think you might be overreacting. I can see where you are coming from, but you have to see that they are trying to include everyone who celebrates a holiday this time of year. If they only put up Happy Hannukah signs then everyone else would be left out, or just Happy Yuletide! Then many others would feel left out. So while those people who celebrate Yule might be happy to see the sign everyone else will be like "Well where's my holiday sign?" Holiday includes more people. Nothing is ever perfect, they can't make everyone happy (you), and things change and adapt to the times. You should be more open minded. If you want to tell people Merry Christmas then go ahead, no one can force you to do otherwise. But if you feel like including everyone when you say it to a stranger then just say Holidays. No one is squashing Christmas, so calm down. And no one is getting rid of "Merry Christmas". So just chill out, see things from another perspective and don't worry about it so much. There are like an easy 100 other things you should be more worried about. No one is banning Merry Christmas.
@smacksman (6053)
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25 Nov 09
But the whole reason there is a holiday on the 25th December is celebrate the birth of Christ. You can't separate the two - one is because of the other.
You can have a holiday on 22nd December and work on the 25th - no problem! haha
Have a Happy Yuletide.
@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
25 Nov 09
Not until recently that I learned Christmas celebration is not appreciated among all christians. But for most people, the christmas culture brings happiness to them, especially for children. Let's just take it as an opportunity to enhance our love for the beloved, our family members, the seniors as well as the juniors. Merry christmass will always bring warmth to me.
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
24 Nov 09
Hiya Phoenix,
No no no, where the heck would we be without Christmas? If they did get rid of it many many People would still celebrate it anyway like the early Christians did in hiding.
Christmas is sacred and it´s also what you make of it yourself.
Getting rid of Christmas and letting them get away with it whoever they are that wants this is like giving in to "Big Brother"
It gives me a sort of creep feeling like when I was watching "Logans Run".
If anyone has seen the Film they will know what I mean.
Is it the G8 that has decided this or what?
By the way this only an observation of mine. I love Christmas with all the things that go with it.
Have a great Thanksgiving all day after tomorrow.
@bossfortune (218)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
i too love christmas but i think its all about making room for other religious tradition and also the media's influence on people to become more politically correct in their behavior.and no i dont think that ol'saying merry christmas will be done for its more on people having to stay on their toes when it comes to other cultures.